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Old May 2, 2008 | 09:10 PM
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Youve done a good job geting the most out of an essentially stock engine.
That's all I needed to hear out of the rest of the garbage. I got almost every ounce of power available from an essentially stock engine. Last step would be to go with the meth injection after the supercharger as well to try and get the temps down even more.
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Old May 2, 2008 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ralliartist
That's all I needed to hear out of the rest of the garbage.
Glad to see you got something out of it.

Last step would be to go with the meth injection after the supercharger as well to try and get the temps down even more.
Wait, wait, there it is your still professing that the essential feature of meth/inj is cooling. Like getting your temps down is the reason youre running as well as you are!

Modified Ostrich syndrome I guess, huh?? You'll just ignore the fact that your adding extra fuel AND oxygen that the engine couldnt bring in on its own, as well as artificially increasing cylinder pressures(this is what creation of power is all about, btw) and just keep telling yourself and the world that your results are from getting the "temps down.", because thats the way you wish it was. Bitchin.
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Old May 2, 2008 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Maven
Glad to see you got something out of it.



Wait, wait, there it is your still professing that the essential feature of meth/inj is cooling. Like getting your temps down is the reason youre running as well as you are!

Modified Ostrich syndrome I guess, huh?? You'll just ignore the fact that your adding extra fuel AND oxygen that the engine couldnt bring in on its own, as well as artificially increasing cylinder pressures(this is what creation of power is all about, btw) and just keep telling yourself and the world that your results are from getting the "temps down.", because thats the way you wish it was. Bitchin.
I agree that meth does more than cool the engine. But you are not looking at some pretty obvious things.

A. The converted turbo guys are running pretty low IAT #'s, hmm, wonder why they are putting down 3XXwhp and over 400whp pretty reliably and safe then.

B. Everyone still supercharged can't seem to keep the temps below 100degrees on anything smaller than a stock pulley, even when using meth. The TVS testers have IAT's still over 100 degrees, and only 1 person has broke 300whp.

C. Finally, I admit that meth does more than cool, but I have a theory that if the temps can get down around 50 degrees, by spraying meth right before the head, I can squeeze out even more "hidden" power and pick up that top end pull.
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Old May 2, 2008 | 09:53 PM
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This is getting interesting.
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Old May 2, 2008 | 09:58 PM
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He's just pissed cause he didn't buy an SS S/C and do this before me. lol. j/k
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Old May 2, 2008 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ralliartist
He's just pissed cause he didn't buy an SS S/C and do this before me. lol. j/k
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Old May 3, 2008 | 05:43 PM
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I am not pissed at all.

You want another cooling mod? Get a well ventilated hood.
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Old May 3, 2008 | 10:30 PM
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that's actually something I'd like to do, but a nice vented hood is like 500+. SO I'm kind of trying to spend the money wisely.
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Old May 3, 2008 | 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ralliartist
that's actually something I'd like to do, but a nice vented hood is like 500+. SO I'm kind of trying to spend the money wisely.
then buy a $40 Sawzall and vent your own hood...

now thats spending your money wisely...
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Old May 3, 2008 | 10:43 PM
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i saw that on a honda lol
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Old May 3, 2008 | 11:00 PM
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**** that, I'm trying to maintain a clean look too.
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Old May 3, 2008 | 11:43 PM
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theres only 1 hood worth getting....if it was in carbon fiber i would have bought it already
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Old May 4, 2008 | 09:25 AM
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and that hood is?
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Old May 4, 2008 | 09:58 AM
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I do have a question....i just modded my cobalt with a CA stage 5 kit and i just got my ECM back from re programming and i installed it yesterday and now the engine light stays on is there anything that u know that is causing that....now i dont have the water/meth injector or the heat exchanger installed yet could that be causing this?
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do you have a catless dp?
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Old May 4, 2008 | 10:46 AM
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You could do what the Honda guys do for venting the hood. I did it on my Integra and it works quite well.

Get some longer bolts and some spacers (washers/nuts/bushings) and place them between the hood and the hinge. It raises the hood up a little in the rear and lets out a ton of heat. Not sure if I would do it on my Cobalt, but it works great on my Integra.
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Old May 4, 2008 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 2K5SS/SC?
You could do what the Honda guys do for venting the hood. I did it on my Integra and it works quite well.

Get some longer bolts and some spacers (washers/nuts/bushings) and place them between the hood and the hinge. It raises the hood up a little in the rear and lets out a ton of heat. Not sure if I would do it on my Cobalt, but it works great on my Integra.
OMG, I cant stand it when the Honda guys do that, I think it looks like ****, and 90% of the people with a hood like that dont even know why they did it. Its like its some secret "JDM" mod to them...
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Old May 4, 2008 | 12:09 PM
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and that hood is?
the suncoast hood..




i will be buying this shortly if i decide to sell my oem cf hood

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Old May 4, 2008 | 03:35 PM
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the suncoast hood..




i will be buying this shortly if i decide to sell my oem cf hood
that's my new favorite hood. It has an identical scoop that the new camaro ss will have plus the heat extractors at the back. I'm just not smiling at the cost of it.

Originally Posted by thecobaltguy
I do have a question....i just modded my cobalt with a CA stage 5 kit and i just got my ECM back from re programming and i installed it yesterday and now the engine light stays on is there anything that u know that is causing that....now i dont have the water/meth injector or the heat exchanger installed yet could that be causing this?

Do you have a catless downpipe? That's the only thing I can think of.

Originally Posted by 2K5SS/SC?
You could do what the Honda guys do for venting the hood. I did it on my Integra and it works quite well.

Get some longer bolts and some spacers (washers/nuts/bushings) and place them between the hood and the hinge. It raises the hood up a little in the rear and lets out a ton of heat. Not sure if I would do it on my Cobalt, but it works great on my Integra.
I haven't thought of this but I have seen it done. Doesn't look good at all, but the function might be worth it. I might save it for a track day or something to see if the mph picks up at all from the heat being extracted.

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Old May 17, 2008 | 03:04 PM
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i have a heat exchanger from cobalt addiction and i am trying to find out how to install it....can u help me out?
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Old May 26, 2008 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by thecobaltguy
i have a heat exchanger from cobalt addiction and i am trying to find out how to install it....can u help me out?
sorry, I just saw this, I don't know much about the cobalt addiction heat exchanger. But I'm sure the write up for the CXRacing or Cobra Heat Exchangers can help you out. Just do a search.

Edit: I updated my first post. I'm currently deployed.
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Old Jun 21, 2008 | 09:09 AM
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Update to first post as well!

Currentlty DEPLOYED to KYRGYZSTAN!
I'm currently deployed to Manas AB Kyrgyzstan. I'll be back by the end of September and continue with my R&D for cooling mods and the Budget Builders like me. Hopefully, 12's will occur still on stock pulley. Also, before I deployed, I hit 8.7@80mph at my local 1/8th, previous there was 8.9@79, all I did was take some **** out of the back, like the seats, spare and any junk. That would have knocked me down below a 13.5 for sure had I been at KCIR again. The elevation is higher at the 1/8th I go to.

OK, new update, I found a product that is pretty amazing, I'm not gonna post much about it right now cause it hasn't been tested on a ss/sc and I don't want any flamers. But it's been proven on other supercharged cars. It should help me meet my goal of lowering IAT's below 50degrees and I won't even have to spray direct injection. I eventually want to do direct injection meth, but I'm gonna wait as that requires tapping into the intake manifold. So when I get back, I'm gonna add a pacesetter header, custom catless downpipe, dual pass with opt. B, and this new cooling method. IAT's should both be below 50degrees, power should be pretty high, something close to 250 +or-5. I'm not kidding at all. Top end should get pretty nasty even for stock pulley. This part ain't cheap though, this will be for the people that are desperate for cooling power potential. 12's will be had. Don't ask me what the product is, cause I'm not spilling until I dyno and track test it.
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 08:39 PM
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well wtf? i may want to give this cooling method a go! why cant you tell? i mean its our fault if we mess it up. pm me if you are willing to talk a bit. im going to start cooling my car down now that i have my 2.7 in. instead of spending money on a meth kit and tuning it i may want to go your "new" route. please pm me and let me know
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 08:49 PM
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so just to be clear, you're going to hit 12's with 250hp?
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 09:06 PM
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how does the water meth kit work? I was going to go H/E for cooling but this seems like the better route
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