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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 11:22 PM
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fifth fuel injector

does any know of the fifth injector. it is located on the engine and the line to the throttle body is fuel not coolant. when does this one work. i know the older tuned port engines in the ta's had nione injectors eight for the engine and one for cold starts.
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 02:02 AM
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 02:03 AM
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The fifth throttle body injector fluid line not coolant on old tuned power muscle throttle carburetor turbocharger injector.

WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT>>>?????
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 06:57 AM
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I keep mine in my pants...
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 11:01 AM
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LOL

I know exactly what he is talking about, for all of you non 3rd gen F body owners, those cars, well to be precise 1985 thru 1987 F body TPI cars, used a ninth injector in the intake to enrich the mixture on cold start up. Later on, 87 to 92, it was removed and the ecm was tuned to compensate on its own.

To answer your question, I don't know what it is, I would doubt it is that tho....
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 11:10 AM
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YUP... I know about those... just did an lt4 intake conversion on a 86 vette and had to remover the 9nth injector... I don't think we have a cold start injector on these cars.
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by OURCOBALTSS
does any know of the fifth injector. it is located on the engine and the line to the throttle body is fuel not coolant. when does this one work. i know the older tuned port engines in the ta's had nione injectors eight for the engine and one for cold starts.


what ever your smoking,sliping,sniffin,dipin.. i want some.. cuz you see some c00l **** man
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 02:56 PM
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look at the tb, the black line connected to it and trace it back to a solenoid ,and a fuel line comes from that to the rear of the car i will post pics soon at work right now
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 03:27 PM
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1. I couldn't see injecting fuel into the TB unless you wanted to blow up your S/C.
2. The injectors inject fuel directly into the combustion chamber so why would you need a 5th injector?
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 05:03 PM
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i dont really know what it is just asking if we had a cold start injector, or what it is ,i took the throttle body off to have it ported by bo white at www.portsculptor.com and he said thats what it looks like

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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 10:17 PM
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I'm not sure if we have cold start injectors, or not. I know a lot of older cars have them though, and a lot of guys use them as a spare injector and use tuning software from Greddy/HKS, or other aftermarket tuners to control them seperately when extra fuel is needed. That however, is kind of a thing of the past since standalone EMS systems allow you to use such large aftermarket injectors, thus eliminating the need for extra injectors.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 05:07 AM
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When I was lookin at it today when ya put it back on it looks like a vacuum hose going over to the fuel maybe to register signal by vacuum to add additional fuel at certain times. Looks odd for a vacuum hose since its made like a fuel line.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by rnjmur
1. I couldn't see injecting fuel into the TB unless you wanted to blow up your S/C.
2. The injectors inject fuel directly into the combustion chamber so why would you need a 5th injector?
Your #2 is completely wrong. What you are refering to is called Direct Injection, which our cars do not have.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 09:50 PM
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Sounds like a Where's Waldo puzzle. Find the fifth injector!
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 10:04 PM
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i think your thinking about the evap line...
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 10:11 PM
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There is such a system as an EIC.. or extra injector controller. It's good when overboosting but it is not an OEM system.

Look on Google for SDS EIC-2 if you are interested.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by bluecobaltss06
i think your thinking about the evap line...
Bingo! (and the solenoid at the other end of the line is the purce control solenoid)
There is no Cold Start Injector in the LSJ (or any GM engine since the old TPI days)
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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by automobiliben
Your #2 is completely wrong. What you are refering to is called Direct Injection, which our cars do not have.
Sorry, the new 2.0 turbo is direct injection. Our motors have Port FI.
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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 09:10 AM
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I also know that some cars have coolant running through the TB in order to warm up quicker (so annoying, the VW guys used to bypass it to try and shave a couple degrees off the intake temps).

And yes, I'd also agre with the Evap line, no better way to get rid of fumes then to burn them!
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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Sicklyscott
I also know that some cars have coolant running through the TB in order to warm up quicker (so annoying, the VW guys used to bypass it to try and shave a couple degrees off the intake temps).

And yes, I'd also agre with the Evap line, no better way to get rid of fumes then to burn them!

The coolant line is to prevent the TB from locking up with ice in the winter..
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