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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 07:58 PM
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Speaking of conspiracy theories has anyone bought cloud insurance yet? Like it started raining today and a bunch of them were gathered and they brought thunder and lighting too. Should I get cloud insurance? I think I should. If I bought an umbrella would that void my cloud insrance? I think I should buy cloud insurance. Should I?

lol now that **** is funny.
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 08:20 PM
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If GM voids the warrantee they will loose their asses between the lawsuits and the lack of sales because other companies i.e. INTENSE offer similar products for a much better price.

and yes the umbrella will void your cloud insurance.
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by OniMirage
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Speaking of conspiracy theories has anyone bought cloud insurance yet? Like it started raining today and a bunch of them were gathered and they brought thunder and lighting too. Should I get cloud insurance? I think I should. If I bought an umbrella would that void my cloud insrance? I think I should buy cloud insurance. Should I?
I'm only giving a heads up, in case someone runs into this problem. It's always good to know what weapons the enemy has.
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 08:49 PM
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LOL!




Listen....i know your not trying to stir anything up....but this is so blatantly obvious, you should think about what your saying, because in the end this is stirring up pointless contraversy..



You know those INSANE cobalts built with GM parts.....THOSE are the kinds of situations your "document" is referring to.

GM does not want to warrantee 800hp Monsters just cuz they are built with GM parts.....

but the simple fact is.....the stage 2 kits are sold under a completely different pretense.

the BIGGEST. and i mean 100% the BIGGEST selling feature of the stage 2 kit...is its GM warranty.

why wouldnt everyone just go intense? its cheaper.....


hell its a friggin pully, injectors and a few bits of downloaded information.

you are paying for the R&D and extensive testing that GM puts this kind of thing through to ensure that waranteing it is financially savvy for them to do.
thats why you pay a premium compared to intense.



I think the information you are reading, is #1 written before the warantee'd stage kits were released.....#2 in reference to other GM parts that a person could buy that they DONT consider an upgrade that they should waranty.
Great Response!!! Way to break it down sensably.
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 09:11 PM
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ok... here is one for ya... Sine I can't get a dealership to install the GM stage 1 kit for under $250.00. I asked if I could install the injectors myself and just have them reflash it. They said yes and it is still going to cost me $140.0. Will this be under warranty because they didhalf and I did half.



On a side note should I install the injectors first or can I wait till they do the reflash then intall the injectors I only have .25 miles to drive to where I will install the injectors?
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 10:04 PM
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Two things

First Strait from GM's NOT CHEVY or Dealership mouth.

"The kits are easy to install and conform to all GM engineering and validation standards for the Cobalt and ION," said Philippart. " And, best of all, they're backed by GM. "


Secondly I have a "contact" at GM fairly high up there who personally told me these kits DONT void the warranty and if my dealership ever tried give him a call and he would straiten them out.

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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 11:01 PM
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If you look at the 2007 Cobalt sales book on the sales floor, it shows the stage kits as options.
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 12:28 AM
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Yeah well I am living proof of this damn claim! I have GM Stage 2 and I was just denied the repair of a faulty headgasket because of it. It was ruled by GM's higher ups too. Yeah that's right the headgasket blew on GM Stage 2 3.06" pulley's boost, and I'm the one fixing the freaking car because they won't cover it.

Bad06SS, good on you for opening up people's eyes. I'll be your proof for this one.
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 2K5SS/SC?
Yeah well I am living proof of this damn claim! I have GM Stage 2 and I was just denied the repair of a faulty headgasket because of it. It was ruled by GM's higher ups too. Yeah that's right the headgasket blew on GM Stage 2 3.06" pulley's boost, and I'm the one fixing the freaking car because they won't cover it.

Bad06SS, good on you for opening up people's eyes. I'll be your proof for this one.
Didn't you install the Stage 2 yourself? That could be the issue.
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 12:36 AM
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2K5SS/SC? did the dealer install the kit? Did they void it because a non-dealer installed it?

Or did they blame things on some additional modifications outside of the stage2 kit?
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 12:37 AM
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Sue em, you'll win.Make sure you get it into the local paper,use the dealerships name and the word "Fraud" in the same sentence.

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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 2K5SS/SC?
Yeah well I am living proof of this damn claim! I have GM Stage 2 and I was just denied the repair of a faulty headgasket because of it. It was ruled by GM's higher ups too. Yeah that's right the headgasket blew on GM Stage 2 3.06" pulley's boost, and I'm the one fixing the freaking car because they won't cover it.

Bad06SS, good on you for opening up people's eyes. I'll be your proof for this one.
mmhmm... more info needed!
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 2K5SS/SC?
Yeah well I am living proof of this damn claim! I have GM Stage 2 and I was just denied the repair of a faulty headgasket because of it. It was ruled by GM's higher ups too. Yeah that's right the headgasket blew on GM Stage 2 3.06" pulley's boost, and I'm the one fixing the freaking car because they won't cover it.

Bad06SS, good on you for opening up people's eyes. I'll be your proof for this one.

Like Falcon Fixer said, get the story into the paper, cause that is bullshit.
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 01:43 AM
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The thing that is even stranger, is that some delearships are putting stage 2 on the cars before they are even sold, I had the option of doing this...but did not wan to add more to my payments so i've opted to save upa bit and have it put on. The dealership that I bought my car at said just as long as I have them or a GM dealership install the kit that it will be covered under the 5 year warranty.
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 2K5SS/SC?
Yeah well I am living proof of this damn claim! I have GM Stage 2 and I was just denied the repair of a faulty headgasket because of it. It was ruled by GM's higher ups too. Yeah that's right the headgasket blew on GM Stage 2 3.06" pulley's boost, and I'm the one fixing the freaking car because they won't cover it.

Bad06SS, good on you for opening up people's eyes. I'll be your proof for this one.
We need more info. What else have you done to your car? If nothing then don't you dare take that lying down, because that starts setting a precedent with GM. You can use the email I posted here as your ammunition.
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by zinner
Does my nitrous system void my warrenty?
i'd be worried more about the vtak you installed in your cobalt.
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 05:46 AM
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This is seriously a class action lawsuit just waiting. I came into the dealership to have them listen to the S/C. They started to say "we will have to see if it is the stage 2 kit that might me causing this." I am going today to grab an 07 Cobalt Brochure. If I end up having an issue, I will have proof the Chevrolet is pushing this install. I had to take my Toyota Warranty all the way to arbitration to win. My truck then was lifted and the dealership was selling lifted trucks. They voided my suspension warranty because of the lift. The arbitrator found in my case. I would do it again in a heartbeat!
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 07:24 AM
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well if the first statement is true then couldn't they try to say the warranty on the orginal ss/sc is void because of the inteded usage of the car when bought because it is supercharged?

GM is starting to push my buttons
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 07:40 AM
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My mods are in my sig. I never ran the 2.8" pulley either. The dealership knows about my mods. Even know I installed the Stage Kit myself it had to be checked and reflashed at the dealership afterwards. Plus, I got a claim number to prove that it would remain under warranty just in case something like what happened did. I still got denied because "Someone heard the car was at the track," and "you are supposed to buy the car and look cool driving it, not get on it." They blamed my driving and my mods, and I screamed that the only thing on the car that can't be bought through the GM book is my intake and clutch, and neither of which (and they agreed) could cause my headgasket to blow. GM ******* sucks, I'm getting ready to deploy real soon, the car needed to be fixed before I leave for 4-6 months, so I took matters into my own hands to fix my own car! Plus, the dealership probably would have scratched my car to holy hell again and fried my electrical system under the hood again if they fixed! Oh, and don't forget the first engine that was in the car broke on my way to work at 30 mph in 4th or 5th gear, so since the car has a problem child history they don't want to deal with it. There you have folks. The straight honest truth.
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 08:26 AM
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Sue em, you'll win.Make sure you get it into the local paper,use the dealerships name and the word "Fraud" in the same sentence.
Good luck with that. Until a court verdict is reached, it's a he said/we said deal which any newspaper that printed it would be leaving themselves wide open to being sued for printing it.
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 10:31 AM
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My mods are in my sig. I never ran the 2.8" pulley either. The dealership knows about my mods. Even know I installed the Stage Kit myself it had to be checked and reflashed at the dealership afterwards. Plus, I got a claim number to prove that it would remain under warranty just in case something like what happened did. I still got denied because "Someone heard the car was at the track," and "you are supposed to buy the car and look cool driving it, not get on it." They blamed my driving and my mods, and I screamed that the only thing on the car that can't be bought through the GM book is my intake and clutch, and neither of which (and they agreed) could cause my headgasket to blow. GM ******* sucks, I'm getting ready to deploy real soon, the car needed to be fixed before I leave for 4-6 months, so I took matters into my own hands to fix my own car! Plus, the dealership probably would have scratched my car to holy hell again and fried my electrical system under the hood again if they fixed! Oh, and don't forget the first engine that was in the car broke on my way to work at 30 mph in 4th or 5th gear, so since the car has a problem child history they don't want to deal with it. There you have folks. The straight honest truth.

Man, I really am sorry to hear this. I work at a dealership, and I can't stand the service departments!
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 2K5SS/SC?
My mods are in my sig. I never ran the 2.8" pulley either. The dealership knows about my mods. Even know I installed the Stage Kit myself it had to be checked and reflashed at the dealership afterwards. Plus, I got a claim number to prove that it would remain under warranty just in case something like what happened did. I still got denied because "Someone heard the car was at the track," and "you are supposed to buy the car and look cool driving it, not get on it." They blamed my driving and my mods, and I screamed that the only thing on the car that can't be bought through the GM book is my intake and clutch, and neither of which (and they agreed) could cause my headgasket to blow. GM ******* sucks, I'm getting ready to deploy real soon, the car needed to be fixed before I leave for 4-6 months, so I took matters into my own hands to fix my own car! Plus, the dealership probably would have scratched my car to holy hell again and fried my electrical system under the hood again if they fixed! Oh, and don't forget the first engine that was in the car broke on my way to work at 30 mph in 4th or 5th gear, so since the car has a problem child history they don't want to deal with it. There you have folks. The straight honest truth.

please dont take this the wrong way....but this entire thing screams "one side of the story" to me.

EVERY car dealership (not just chev) will attempt to produce a reason why its not thier warranty job, i get the feeling that its not the stage 2 that they are blaming here.


again this is my opinion......

some GM techs may be stupid. but i refuse to believe they are so stupid as to void a claim on something that WILL get them into newspapers. and WILL get them into class action law suits.

secondly.....you rolled over way to easy. If a dealer said "not doing it cuz you have stage 2" i think any one of us would fight it to the death.
Again this gives me the feeling its not the stage 2 they are blaming.


once again. just my opinion.
with the amount of promoting GM does on this kit being "under GM warranty" they just flat out arent stupid enough to get themselves into newspapers looking this friggin dumb.
they are already in trouble. the last thing they need is publicity showing they are voiding warrantys on a $1000 part that they sell on the premise that it KEEPS your warranty.
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 11:26 AM
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I rolled over too easily? Bro... I've been fighting this thing for a month now. I went all the way to GM Direct, spoke with local area manager, and the decision was made by someone who is high enough that the only way to revoke the decision was to mail a letter to GM in Detroit! What the hell am I supposed to do, let coolant sit in the cylinder for 4-6 more months so corrosion and comtaminated oil ruin the engine completely? I don't want to be an A$$hole, but come on. I've earned everything I have, no one pays my way but myself, and I just don't give up. I'm still fighting this issue. In the military we just don't quit, and I certainly don't stop arguing until I get what I want. Thus, the reason why I have a 10year 100000 mile tranny warranty for free since GM messed up on a clutch install! I honestly hope you never have any problems with your car, but if you do and you get screwed don't say I didn't tell you so.

Anyhoo... I'm and Explosive Ordnance Disposal Tech AKA Bomb Squad. I'll just blow the ******* car and dealership up if I have any issues that seriously get on my nerve!
Just kidding on the last comment, I will never pursue this avenue and this is my personnal opinion not my professional one.
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 11:28 AM
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i think that's why everyone asked for the whole story cus it is kinda falling into place one post at a time.
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by an0malous

once again. just my opinion.
with the amount of promoting GM does on this kit being "under GM warranty" they just flat out arent stupid enough to get themselves into newspapers looking this friggin dumb.
they are already in trouble. the last thing they need is publicity showing they are voiding warrantys on a $1000 part that they sell on the premise that it KEEPS your warranty.

I have looked for this statement (in bold) about this kit, all over the net. I know that I saw it before, now I can't find it. I emailed crate engine direct, and they said it does not affect the factory warranty.
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