unless the keywords are used for a website it will be near impossible to narrow a search to find those words unless the search engine has already cached the information ... then you have only a million some sites to look through

 

2K5SS/SC? - If they are blaming the head gasket on the Stage 2 use that against them. They sold you something that damaged the car. You must have one real ******** of a dealer.

 

Guys - look at this page.

Read the first paragraph. The scroll down and read about the stage kits, which are listed here as accessories. This is posted by GM, not a dealer. If you're having issues, just print it and take it to the dealer. Or better yet, the dealer's have internet access - just tell them to pull up the page.

 

If he were to be interviewed and said, "This is my story..." the paper could not be held liable.

 

Trust me I've been pushing that issue, but my case is obviously rare. And yes, my dealer is certainly the WORST dealer I have ever been to. The service manager is a complete back-stabbing *******! Thanks for the support though.

 

Just do what I am doing---Go to the dealership and get the 07 Cobalt Brochure. It has the Stage kits listed as an accessory

 

They tried to pull the same crap when I had my cavalier. Told me my oversized wheels and tires caused my engine to sieze. Took a bunch of pictures of the stickers, exhaust, wheels, etc, but none of the engine. They tried to pull the "he races" crap. Luckily my dad has 3 attorneys and called the dealership and said if he didnt hear back in a day, they would be hearing from multiple attorneys. They replaced the whole engine under warranty. Its a shitty situation and they will almost always fight a claim until they are proven wrong or threatened with legal action. Do you have any lawyer friends or friends with lawyers, cause that is the route you have to go sometimes...Good luck and dont give up!!!!!!

 

Some ammo for you.
(10 minutes of surfing)


www.chevytoronto.com

 

www.chevrolet.com

 

That's exactly what I posted up above, I was just too lazy to cut and paste everything.

 

yeah many people (me included ) are to lazy to click a link so i figured id put it on a platter for everyone

I also spoke to my service manager today (car is actually in the shop right this minute getting s2 lol)
and called GM canada to get a few more pieces of definative proof to put this one to bed.

 

I just received a phone call. Here it is for all those who are still in disbelief.
"GM Stage 2 performance kit adversely affects your warranty. Having a performance clutch along with the kit changed the intended use of the car resulting the void of the factory warranty." This is straight from GM Diredt. So all those who bought GM Stage 2 are screwed if you need and major warranty work done.

I wonder what they are going to come up with after JAG gives them a nice letter or phonecall. For those that don't know what JAG is, that's the Judge Advocate General. They are basically my military lawyers. I will go visit them as soon as possible. To all those who have GM Stage 2 good luck.

 

You know where I see the law suit, GM being able to sell stage kits and retain the warrenty but not letting other vendors/companies sell stage kits and retain the warrenty.

 

K i think your misunderstanding.
Im not saying that your situation is untrue.
but you are saying that your situation is the standard by which all will be judged.
and THATs the part that isnt true.

the simple fact is this. when you sell something to people on a certain condition.....you cant later change your mind and say "nah we didnt really mean it"

thats where lawyers get all giddy and tingly in the pants.


"The kits conform to all GM engineering and validation standards for the Cobalt and ION," said Philippart. "And, best of all, they're backed by GM and do not affect your warranty.

that is GMs sales pitch.

they cant change that.



You cannot void someones warranty due to install of a part that they sell with the EXPRESS STATEMENT THAT IT DOES NOT AFFECT YOUR WARRANTY.

they are doing 1 of 2 things.

1. they are TRYING to void your warranty because of stage 2 (in which case they will get raped in court)
2. they are trying to void your warranty based on stage 2 in unison with other aftermarket parts that you installed that are NOT backed by GM. nor are they in any way protected in your vehicle warranty. (this one you will have trouble with if they can prove it)


the point is....neither 1 or 2 means that "stage 2 voids your warranty"
this is a pretty viscious "sky is falling" statement that isnt true

 

Then why do we never see stories like that in the newspaper? Why do you think when you see an "exposed auto scam" on TV that they always go to the accused and ask them to explain the allegations?

Can't present one side of the story and get away with it.

 

I think that all the people with the stage 2 kit need to call GM and find out WTF. Some parts persons state that it is covered under the accessories warranty and will not affect the factory warranty, others say that it will not. I just went out and purchased a 7 year 100000 mile warranty from a secondary warranty company that covers my car if GM will not.

 

I've seen numerous stories of people complaining about service, goods etc.

It would be up to the paper to ask the other party for a comment on the issue.

 

wow the fear mongering in this post is funny....someone sue the guy who wrote the title to this thread for slander...i think he even said he works at GM...there's a loyal worker for u..

...sorry they won't fix your car dude but decisions like that are done on a case by case basis....sounds like you can get some legal action going so maybe it will work out in the end....i hope it does

 

Here is a tid bit I found on an official GM web site just to help clear things up!

Warranty is intact
This reads you can add any of the GM accessories listed but Dealer installed & still keep your warranty intact so I feel that if you purchase the extended warranty like I did(5 year 70,000 Bumper to bumper) it will also be intact with STG2!


I hope this helps & I'm going to print it off & put it in my Cobalt file just for insurance

 

I really want to see how they link a clutch to a blown headgasket. That is F-ing stupid. Let me guess they will tell you it was because you were also driving on none OE tires.

 

Must be different rules where you live then. I'm a auto service advisor and I get lots of stories from customers who were screwed by a dealer and/or other repair shop and contacted the local newspapers and they will NOT touch it.

Case in point. I had a woman in Saturday for two tires. Car was pulled into the bay by a tire installer. Two tires installed and car put back outside. Hood wasn't opened and installer was in vehicle for about 1 minute total driving in and out. Comes back Monday says she has no parklights and blames us. So to appease her, we looked at it for free. Multi-function switch is partially bad. Headlight still work with switch. Part to fix is $207 from dealer. She wants us to pay for it and put it in. I said no and told the tech to bring the vehicle outside. I was threatened with going to the TV station, the newspaper and a lawyer and I encouraged her to try all three.

 

I have to gather all my claim numbers, paperwork, and have GM fax me their latest statement since it was read verbatum on my voicemail as you could tell. Once I have all my things in order, I will pursue this further for the good of everyone. I'm all about helping the community out too. I wouldn't wish this on anybody. I think between the Magnuson Moss Act and GM's warranty claims for Stage 2, I will have a great chance to at least be compensated for all the B.S. I've been put through.

 

CHEVY ACCESSORIES

All dealer-installed Chevy Accessories are designed to enhance the appearance or extend the functionality of your Cobalt. They are tested for performance, durability, and safety and covered by the GM 3-year/36,000-mile (whichever comes first) New Vehicle Limited Warranty. These available accessories can be ordered with your vehicle so that they're included in your monthly lease or loan payment and on your Cobalt when you take delivery.

16-Inch Chrome Wheels
16-Inch Chrome Wheels
Reflect your personality with these chrome wheels. They feature a six-double-spoke design and are manufactured from cast-aluminum alloy. Available for LS and 1LT.

18-Inch Polished Wheels
18-Inch Polished Wheels
These eye-catching 18-inch aluminum-alloy wheels are specifically designed to fit SS Supercharged Coupe. They feature a one-piece, five-spoke design and forged, polished construction.

Supercharged Stage 1 System
Make it growl. Engineered by GM for Cobalt SS Supercharged Coupe, the Stage 1 Kit consists of four injectors and a performance engine management calibration. It generates a significant power gain right at the wheels. Take your 205-horsepower engine up to a throaty 236.

Supercharged Stage 2 System
Take it to the next level. Get the performance you need out of your 205-hp engine with even more power through the midsection of the power curve. The Stage 2 System includes a two-piece performance pulley, performance calibration, four injectors, belt and fasteners. It increases your engine to 241 horsepower and 218 pound-foot of torque.

Ground Effects Package
Ground Effects Package
This sporty ground effects package gives Cobalt Sedan eye-catching custom-molded fascias designed and painted especially for your vehicle.

Performance Air Intake
Performance Air Intake
Hear the rush when you add this Performance Air Intake to your vehicle. The attractive aluminum tube will stay highly polished thanks to a maintenance-free clearcoat finish. The free-breathing air filter is non-oiled, meaning it won't interfere with the computer sensors. It features a Bowtie logo on the top of the throttle-body adapter. Show it off anywhere because it's 50-state legal. Available September 2006.

Sport Pedals
Sport Pedals
Designed specifically for Cobalt, these superb quality brushed-aluminum pedal covers replace existing accelerator, brake, and manual transmission clutch pedals to provide a sporty performance finish and feel to your interior. The covers also feature raised rubber traction surfaces.

Highly Polished Exhaust Tip
Highly Polished Exhaust Tip
Adjustable and interchangeable, fully-polished stainless steel tip with the Chevy bowtie logo fits perfectly over the Cat-Back performance exhaust system (sold separately). It's available in straight cut or angle cut.

Double-Walled Stainless-Steel Exhaust Tip
Double-Walled Stainless-Steel Exhaust Tip
Add high-performance appearance to the stainless-steel exhaust on your Cobalt Coupe or Sedan. This polished stainless-steel single exhaust tip features a unique double-walled design with rolled edges.

Spoilers
Spoilers
Add to the aerodynamics of your Cobalt with this race-inspired high-profile spoiler. It's the same one you'll find on the SS Supercharged models. Or make a more subtle statement with the low-profile rear spoiler (not shown). They're available in four colors or primed to paint.

Cat-Back Exhaust System
Constructed of T-304 stainless steel with mandrel bent tubing. This performance feature includes a semi-polished free-flowing muffler with your choice of two distinctive sounds: Touring (more aggressive than stock) and Performance (much more aggressive than stock). This is the only performance exhaust system engineered by GM for your Cobalt. Limited Lifetime Warranty. See dealer for details.

 

Just a thought....if you really sit there and read what it says.....replace "They are tested for.....blah blah" with parts or accessories. So it now says the parts/accessories are tested.....and covered by the GM..... Technically it kinda says the parts are covered under warranty...doesnt say anythings else. Although this isnt the same....lets say I bought the GM performance intake......drive through a massive puddle....suck up some water...seize the motor.....I guess I could just take it to GM and have it fixed under warranty. lol lol....prob not gonna happen. Its definately bs and as far as the stage 2 kit goes....I think everything should be covered. I think we're gonna see more and more of these problems surfacing soon. I hope someone finds out what the real deal is and I hope GM does correct this and set the record straight. Best of luck to all of you with stage 2.

 

Maybe you are right, I have never seen any articles of that nature.