GM Stage Kits Void Your Factory Warranty!
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From: VA BEACH, VA
Originally Posted by 06G5GT
Must be different rules where you live then. I'm a auto service advisor and I get lots of stories from customers who were screwed by a dealer and/or other repair shop and contacted the local newspapers and they will NOT touch it.
Case in point. I had a woman in Saturday for two tires. Car was pulled into the bay by a tire installer. Two tires installed and car put back outside. Hood wasn't opened and installer was in vehicle for about 1 minute total driving in and out. Comes back Monday says she has no parklights and blames us. So to appease her, we looked at it for free. Multi-function switch is partially bad. Headlight still work with switch. Part to fix is $207 from dealer. She wants us to pay for it and put it in. I said no and told the tech to bring the vehicle outside. I was threatened with going to the TV station, the newspaper and a lawyer and I encouraged her to try all three.
Case in point. I had a woman in Saturday for two tires. Car was pulled into the bay by a tire installer. Two tires installed and car put back outside. Hood wasn't opened and installer was in vehicle for about 1 minute total driving in and out. Comes back Monday says she has no parklights and blames us. So to appease her, we looked at it for free. Multi-function switch is partially bad. Headlight still work with switch. Part to fix is $207 from dealer. She wants us to pay for it and put it in. I said no and told the tech to bring the vehicle outside. I was threatened with going to the TV station, the newspaper and a lawyer and I encouraged her to try all three.
I can see where Chevy and the dealership would have a leg to stand on in this case. You are comparing apples to oranges here. There is (in plain black and white) writing on the Chevrolet website and in the Cobalt new car brochure, a listing for the Stage Kits. That listing states that there is a warranty on the kit. NOWHERE on either of these does it say this kit voids the new car warranty.
Originally Posted by FraGmE
wow the fear mongering in this post is funny....someone sue the guy who wrote the title to this thread for slander...i think he even said he works at GM...there's a loyal worker for u.
Sue me? Obviously you don't have a clue.
I said I work at a dealership, and got into an arguement with a service writer. ALL I did was repeat what I was told, to give a heads up for other members to look out for. You're a joke.
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From: AZ
Originally Posted by cobaltR
....lets say I bought the GM performance intake......drive through a massive puddle....suck up some water...seize the motor.....I guess I could just take it to GM and have it fixed under warranty.
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From: AZ
Originally Posted by 2K5SS/SC?
I have to gather all my claim numbers, paperwork, and have GM fax me their latest statement since it was read verbatum on my voicemail as you could tell. Once I have all my things in order, I will pursue this further for the good of everyone. I'm all about helping the community out too. I wouldn't wish this on anybody. I think between the Magnuson Moss Act and GM's warranty claims for Stage 2, I will have a great chance to at least be compensated for all the B.S. I've been put through.
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the service manager at my dealership is a good ****. even comes out to the track and races.
He called up his district manager yesterday while he was putting in my stage 2 after i told him about this thread and the way everyone is freakin out.
his DM had him print right onto my reciept, a reference paragraph in the GM parts catalogue about GM stage 2 kits.
The paragraph (i dont have the book so im paraphrasing) says in no uncertain terms that GM Supercharger kits WHEN INSTALLED BY A GM DEALER are covered completely under the full 3 year 60k vehicle warranty. then it says "for the do it yourself installer parts are covered under a 12 month warranty)
I was asked that if i referred to this next part that it be disclaimed that its not standard practice. but the DM even approved for my tech to warranty my stage 2 in with the 5 year bumper to bumper that i purchased extra with the car.
they were pretty shocked and confused at why i even asked if stage 2 was covered.
and were very prompt in dissuading me from that false belief.
even to the point of extending my stage 2 warranty to prove it.
I can get a scan of my reciept for any nonbelievers if you wish. and if i ask im sure i could get a photocopy of the exact paragraph that is referenced in the GM parts catalogue.
He called up his district manager yesterday while he was putting in my stage 2 after i told him about this thread and the way everyone is freakin out.
his DM had him print right onto my reciept, a reference paragraph in the GM parts catalogue about GM stage 2 kits.
The paragraph (i dont have the book so im paraphrasing) says in no uncertain terms that GM Supercharger kits WHEN INSTALLED BY A GM DEALER are covered completely under the full 3 year 60k vehicle warranty. then it says "for the do it yourself installer parts are covered under a 12 month warranty)
I was asked that if i referred to this next part that it be disclaimed that its not standard practice. but the DM even approved for my tech to warranty my stage 2 in with the 5 year bumper to bumper that i purchased extra with the car.
they were pretty shocked and confused at why i even asked if stage 2 was covered.
and were very prompt in dissuading me from that false belief.
even to the point of extending my stage 2 warranty to prove it.
I can get a scan of my reciept for any nonbelievers if you wish. and if i ask im sure i could get a photocopy of the exact paragraph that is referenced in the GM parts catalogue.
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From: Janesville, WI
I posted this question months ago in this thread https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-0l-lsj-performance-tech-47/gm-stage-kit-warranty-17717/
The kits are covered, it's just that some dealers are not up to date on things
The kits are covered, it's just that some dealers are not up to date on things
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From: Atlantic Canada
Originally Posted by toydriver00
I can see where Chevy and the dealership would have a leg to stand on in this case. You are comparing apples to oranges here. There is (in plain black and white) writing on the Chevrolet website and in the Cobalt new car brochure, a listing for the Stage Kits. That listing states that there is a warranty on the kit. NOWHERE on either of these does it say this kit voids the new car warranty.
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From: Hubert NC
Originally Posted by Asstyme
I posted this question months ago in this thread https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=17717
The kits are covered, it's just that some dealers are not up to date on things
The kits are covered, it's just that some dealers are not up to date on things
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From: Jaffrey, NH
Originally Posted by Cobalt_Supercharged
Good luck with that. If you drive through a "puddle" that deep you are really dumb. The GMPP intake is a short ram that is still in the engine bay. It wouldn't be a puddle, it would be considered a lake and even with the stock intake you would suck water in threw the intake.
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From: Jaffrey, NH
Originally Posted by an0malous
the service manager at my dealership is a good ****. even comes out to the track and races.
He called up his district manager yesterday while he was putting in my stage 2 after i told him about this thread and the way everyone is freakin out.
his DM had him print right onto my reciept, a reference paragraph in the GM parts catalogue about GM stage 2 kits.
The paragraph (i dont have the book so im paraphrasing) says in no uncertain terms that GM Supercharger kits WHEN INSTALLED BY A GM DEALER are covered completely under the full 3 year 60k vehicle warranty. then it says "for the do it yourself installer parts are covered under a 12 month warranty)
I was asked that if i referred to this next part that it be disclaimed that its not standard practice. but the DM even approved for my tech to warranty my stage 2 in with the 5 year bumper to bumper that i purchased extra with the car.
they were pretty shocked and confused at why i even asked if stage 2 was covered.
and were very prompt in dissuading me from that false belief.
even to the point of extending my stage 2 warranty to prove it.
I can get a scan of my reciept for any nonbelievers if you wish. and if i ask im sure i could get a photocopy of the exact paragraph that is referenced in the GM parts catalogue.
He called up his district manager yesterday while he was putting in my stage 2 after i told him about this thread and the way everyone is freakin out.
his DM had him print right onto my reciept, a reference paragraph in the GM parts catalogue about GM stage 2 kits.
The paragraph (i dont have the book so im paraphrasing) says in no uncertain terms that GM Supercharger kits WHEN INSTALLED BY A GM DEALER are covered completely under the full 3 year 60k vehicle warranty. then it says "for the do it yourself installer parts are covered under a 12 month warranty)
I was asked that if i referred to this next part that it be disclaimed that its not standard practice. but the DM even approved for my tech to warranty my stage 2 in with the 5 year bumper to bumper that i purchased extra with the car.
they were pretty shocked and confused at why i even asked if stage 2 was covered.
and were very prompt in dissuading me from that false belief.
even to the point of extending my stage 2 warranty to prove it.
I can get a scan of my reciept for any nonbelievers if you wish. and if i ask im sure i could get a photocopy of the exact paragraph that is referenced in the GM parts catalogue.
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From: Phx, AZ
People should ask the dealership what they think before you get it installed or even purchase it. They have been called stealerships for a reason and everyone is trying to do it their way and sometimes things just don't work that way ... this isn't getting a burger at Burger King.
Before I got mine installed I spent about 3 hours speaking with the service after market guy and the service rep that I was going through. Then I spoke with the service manager and the aftermarket manager guy. Not only did I get a quote for the install at that time but I got a much better reputation for getting stuff done at the dealership.
Before I got mine installed I spent about 3 hours speaking with the service after market guy and the service rep that I was going through. Then I spoke with the service manager and the aftermarket manager guy. Not only did I get a quote for the install at that time but I got a much better reputation for getting stuff done at the dealership.
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From: Phx, AZ
Originally Posted by cashstacker
My dealership told me that they would not warranty the stage kits. If they won't warranty it then why buy it?
If the dealership gives you **** tell them you will never buy anything from them again and go to another dealership.
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From: Phx, AZ
YOUR WARRENTY IS WITH GM NOT THE DEALERSHIP
If you have a problem with the dealership don't even both with them anymore. Just go to another dealership.
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YOUR WARRENTY IS WITH GM NOT THE DEALERSHIP
If you have a problem with the dealership don't even both with them anymore. Just go to another dealership.
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YOUR WARRENTY IS WITH GM NOT THE DEALERSHIP
If you have a problem with the dealership don't even both with them anymore. Just go to another dealership.
If you have a problem with the dealership don't even both with them anymore. Just go to another dealership.
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YOUR WARRENTY IS WITH GM NOT THE DEALERSHIP
If you have a problem with the dealership don't even both with them anymore. Just go to another dealership.
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YOUR WARRENTY IS WITH GM NOT THE DEALERSHIP
If you have a problem with the dealership don't even both with them anymore. Just go to another dealership.
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From: Oxford, AL
I guess I got a hold of a good dealer as far as the warranty issue. They just don't have any way of pulling the f**king pulley off and putting my hub on! It sucks to have a Stage 2 kit just sitting there paid for and you can't enjoy it.
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if you have truely read this entire thread and you still somehow believe that they arent covered. then by all means. please go buy intense.
..................im biting my tongue here. really i am.
..................im biting my tongue here. really i am.
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From: AZ
Originally Posted by cobaltR
ummmm......ok........that was an example......I hope your just being sarcastic....I'm far from stupid and would never do that. But for the case of warranties and the accessories being covered...I'm sure there is someone stupid enough that would do that. Using that example, I'm just saying if someone did manage to do that, in the case of the warranty, someone could say it was covered...but I'm sure GM would tell you take a hike. But as I said that example is not the same as the stage 2 dilema.
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Originally Posted by an0malous
if you have truely read this entire thread and you still somehow believe that they arent covered. then by all means. please go buy intense.
..................im biting my tongue here. really i am.
..................im biting my tongue here. really i am.
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i understand your point.
but the issue here is you have an a-hole dealership.
the problem is not with the stage 2 kit.
the problem is not with the GM warranty on the stage 2 kit
the problem is that your dealer is fully willing to use his discretion to **** you over becuase he doesnt want to warranty your stage 2 kit.
if you dont have the option to use another dealer then intense is probably your best option.
since your going to get fucked on warranty either way.
but the reason everyone is getting mad in here is because when a couple people have a **** dealer who doesnt wanna play ball properly. we get wide sweeping chicken little comments like "stage kits void factory warranty" they dont. your dealer is just bein a bastard.
and that gets everyones hair on end because most people buy it FOR the warranty.
but the issue here is you have an a-hole dealership.
the problem is not with the stage 2 kit.
the problem is not with the GM warranty on the stage 2 kit
the problem is that your dealer is fully willing to use his discretion to **** you over becuase he doesnt want to warranty your stage 2 kit.
if you dont have the option to use another dealer then intense is probably your best option.
since your going to get fucked on warranty either way.
but the reason everyone is getting mad in here is because when a couple people have a **** dealer who doesnt wanna play ball properly. we get wide sweeping chicken little comments like "stage kits void factory warranty" they dont. your dealer is just bein a bastard.
and that gets everyones hair on end because most people buy it FOR the warranty.
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From: Phx, AZ
Originally Posted by an0malous
i understand your point.
but the issue here is you have an a-hole dealership.
the problem is not with the stage 2 kit.
the problem is not with the GM warranty on the stage 2 kit
the problem is that your dealer is fully willing to use his discretion to **** you over becuase he doesnt want to warranty your stage 2 kit.
if you dont have the option to use another dealer then intense is probably your best option.
since your going to get fucked on warranty either way.
but the reason everyone is getting mad in here is because when a couple people have a **** dealer who doesnt wanna play ball properly. we get wide sweeping chicken little comments like "stage kits void factory warranty" they dont. your dealer is just bein a bastard.
and that gets everyones hair on end because most people buy it FOR the warranty.
but the issue here is you have an a-hole dealership.
the problem is not with the stage 2 kit.
the problem is not with the GM warranty on the stage 2 kit
the problem is that your dealer is fully willing to use his discretion to **** you over becuase he doesnt want to warranty your stage 2 kit.
if you dont have the option to use another dealer then intense is probably your best option.
since your going to get fucked on warranty either way.
but the reason everyone is getting mad in here is because when a couple people have a **** dealer who doesnt wanna play ball properly. we get wide sweeping chicken little comments like "stage kits void factory warranty" they dont. your dealer is just bein a bastard.
and that gets everyones hair on end because most people buy it FOR the warranty.
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From: Newark, De
I got the kit for more go.I do NOT race.That is what my ancient big bore gs1150/1450 is for.I just cant stand not being able to GO when I want to.I got the cobalt and the stage 2 kit to do that while keeping warranty and still coming out WAY cheaper than a mustang.
