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60lb injectors (I need a wiring harness for my 60's)
HPTuners or a tune (don't have it)
Full exhaust w/ (min) 2.5" pipe (GMPP installed)
Intake (Already have a fujita)
Dual Pass Mod/Heat Exchanger (2nd h/e i will buy it from ebay)
Good Clutch (I have a stage 3 exedy on schedule for installation)
Wideband to monitor (don't have it)
fuel pump (just to be sure the IDC's don't go crazy) (already have return-style fuel system capable of 500HP)
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While most people are looking at running this blower at the ragged edge with the smallest pulley possible - I would go a different route.
Basically, I would get cooling mods (Meth, dual pass, larger heat exchanger, colder plugs), open up the exhaust a bit (2.5 inch), get a CAI (eg. Rebel 3" intake), 60lb injectors, and run the blower so it will mimic the M62 with a 2.8 on it. This way, you dont have to pull your motor and dump 7k into rebuilding the entire thing to handle stupid amounts of power. The result *should* be a cooler intake charge at lower blower speeds and less drag on the engine. this would both creat HP from the clloer charge, which would allow more tuning "headspace" and free up HP due to less drag induced on the engine. The lower blower speeds would also contribute to longer blower life. Crap...I dont need any more than 300whp - for the type of driving I do, 275 would be perfect. I would rather get 275 from a "slow" spinning, cool, durable TVS, than 275 from a hot, overspun, power sapping, M-62.
If this blower performs up to the hype, I should not have to worry about pistons and sleeves at all with 275WHP.
Make sense??
Basically, I would get cooling mods (Meth, dual pass, larger heat exchanger, colder plugs), open up the exhaust a bit (2.5 inch), get a CAI (eg. Rebel 3" intake), 60lb injectors, and run the blower so it will mimic the M62 with a 2.8 on it. This way, you dont have to pull your motor and dump 7k into rebuilding the entire thing to handle stupid amounts of power. The result *should* be a cooler intake charge at lower blower speeds and less drag on the engine. this would both creat HP from the clloer charge, which would allow more tuning "headspace" and free up HP due to less drag induced on the engine. The lower blower speeds would also contribute to longer blower life. Crap...I dont need any more than 300whp - for the type of driving I do, 275 would be perfect. I would rather get 275 from a "slow" spinning, cool, durable TVS, than 275 from a hot, overspun, power sapping, M-62.
If this blower performs up to the hype, I should not have to worry about pistons and sleeves at all with 275WHP.
Make sense??
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While most people are looking at running this blower at the ragged edge with the smallest pulley possible - I would go a different route.
Basically, I would get cooling mods (Meth, dual pass, larger heat exchanger, colder plugs), open up the exhaust a bit (2.5 inch), get a CAI (eg. Rebel 3" intake), 60lb injectors, and run the blower so it will mimic the M62 with a 2.8 on it. This way, you dont have to pull your motor and dump 7k into rebuilding the entire thing to handle stupid amounts of power. The result *should* be a cooler intake charge at lower blower speeds and less drag on the engine. this would both creat HP from the clloer charge, which would allow more tuning "headspace" and free up HP due to less drag induced on the engine. The lower blower speeds would also contribute to longer blower life. Crap...I dont need any more than 300whp - for the type of driving I do, 275 would be perfect. I would rather get 275 from a "slow" spinning, cool, durable TVS, than 275 from a hot, overspun, power sapping, M-62.
If this blower performs up to the hype, I should not have to worry about pistons and sleeves at all with 275WHP.
Make sense??
Basically, I would get cooling mods (Meth, dual pass, larger heat exchanger, colder plugs), open up the exhaust a bit (2.5 inch), get a CAI (eg. Rebel 3" intake), 60lb injectors, and run the blower so it will mimic the M62 with a 2.8 on it. This way, you dont have to pull your motor and dump 7k into rebuilding the entire thing to handle stupid amounts of power. The result *should* be a cooler intake charge at lower blower speeds and less drag on the engine. this would both creat HP from the clloer charge, which would allow more tuning "headspace" and free up HP due to less drag induced on the engine. The lower blower speeds would also contribute to longer blower life. Crap...I dont need any more than 300whp - for the type of driving I do, 275 would be perfect. I would rather get 275 from a "slow" spinning, cool, durable TVS, than 275 from a hot, overspun, power sapping, M-62.
If this blower performs up to the hype, I should not have to worry about pistons and sleeves at all with 275WHP.
Make sense??
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good point...for those thinking there going to buy this thing and slap on a 2.8 pulley onto it and be fine with a stock engine are gonna have some bad news coming to them...u thought crankwalk was bad in the DSM's wait til ur crankshaft blows out the block thru ur oil pan...Harrop has stated that this blower wont damage ur engine..it will DESTROY it if u dont take the proper steps in prepairing it
If I get this blower, I will not be looking to make any more than 300WHP (tops) with it. this blower could open up HP that the inefficiencies of the current design eats up. In a nutshell, I want to run the same HP that a 2.8 - 2.6 pullied LSJ runs - but with a more efficient, slower spinning blower AND all the cooling mods, meth, fuel, etc. I think that my internals would be very safe and I would not have to worry about reliability as blower is not tossing a bunch of hot air in the intake. I could have more freedom to run more timing, more headroom with my AF ratios, etc.
I dunno...I dont need more than 300WHP - its all just for bragging after that...and I already have a huge member and a hot wife who loves it :P
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Plus - if you then decided to pull the engine and do some crazy stuff, you just have to get a smaller pulley and tune.
If I get this blower, I will not be looking to make any more than 300WHP (tops) with it. this blower could open up HP that the inefficiencies of the current design eats up. In a nutshell, I want to run the same HP that a 2.8 - 2.6 pullied LSJ runs - but with a more efficient, slower spinning blower AND all the cooling mods, meth, fuel, etc. I think that my internals would be very safe and I would not have to worry about reliability as blower is not tossing a bunch of hot air in the intake. I could have more freedom to run more timing, more headroom with my AF ratios, etc.
I dunno...I dont need more than 300WHP - its all just for bragging after that...and I already have a huge member and a hot wife who loves it :P
If I get this blower, I will not be looking to make any more than 300WHP (tops) with it. this blower could open up HP that the inefficiencies of the current design eats up. In a nutshell, I want to run the same HP that a 2.8 - 2.6 pullied LSJ runs - but with a more efficient, slower spinning blower AND all the cooling mods, meth, fuel, etc. I think that my internals would be very safe and I would not have to worry about reliability as blower is not tossing a bunch of hot air in the intake. I could have more freedom to run more timing, more headroom with my AF ratios, etc.
I dunno...I dont need more than 300WHP - its all just for bragging after that...and I already have a huge member and a hot wife who loves it :P
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Area47, I am a good tuner, but you have alot more experience with the software and quirks of these cars than I do, but I dont want to have to bandaid the tuning due to the fact that I am running the M62 out of it's efficiency range.
Oh yeah...I am **** retentive <-- that may explain alot too
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with the lsj tables. you don't have much of a choice but to bandaid it. you have to change one table to get it to work in another, blah blah blah.
to get 300 to the tire. you don't need a small pulley to do it, just have to look in another area's to get the power from, and then spend the money to do it.
i won't disclose how much i have spent on parts to get to 300 whp without a 2.5 pulley. i will say it is enough to hit 370+ with a turbo kit
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to get 300 to the tire. you don't need a small pulley to do it, just have to look in another area's to get the power from, and then spend the money to do it.
i won't disclose how much i have spent on parts to get to 300 whp without a 2.5 pulley. i will say it is enough to hit 370+ with a turbo kit
blargh
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IMHO, the fuel system is what is causing so many tables to be "bandaided" in the first place. Just a proper fuel system on its own will help with a lot of these issues.
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I believe the intake manifold is going to be the biggest restriction. I remember some company was going to offer to port them but no one seemed interested.
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The boost-a-pump is good for short term and moderate improvement over the stock system. It's a basically a bandaid that stretched out the capabilities, and does not have any proper fix for the improper way fuel is being metered.
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is there any type of fuel pump duty cycle parameters in hptuners? the turbo focus guys have messed with some of these settings and had some success when used in conjunction with a voltage amplifier. i agree the BAP alone wont help much
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