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Old Mar 18, 2014 | 09:01 PM
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Okayy... just making sure i didnt totally **** myself lol.
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Old Mar 18, 2014 | 09:02 PM
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Oh no. Not on this part atleast. hehe
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Old Mar 18, 2014 | 09:05 PM
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As TStone said, you'll be fine. Different if you went all out on a motor. Look at Infra's motor before he swapped to his 2.1. It's seen 7500+ rpm for years. Bone stock bottom end. Now continuing on in his greyline winter beater that's the same set up as yours.
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Old Mar 18, 2014 | 11:17 PM
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His bottom end was never apart though and he hasnt messed with the balance shafts i think. But everything checked out ok putting my bottom end back on. The thing is you cant check clearances without destroying a new set of bolts
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Old Mar 18, 2014 | 11:35 PM
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Can some one answer my thought. I am seriously trying to learn...
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Old Mar 18, 2014 | 11:49 PM
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How agressive of a tune are you thinking? Adding boost will cause stress on the block, but correct me if I am wrong, as I have always built NA V8s. I ran the biggest cam I could run in a stock block for well over 5 years and beat the **** out of it. I never had one issue. I don't see how with a good tune, cams could put stress on the block. I dunno I probably need to step out of the V8 box. Sorry just thinking out loud.
I think you misunderstood the direction of question. I am not worried about my bottom end because of the cams, but the balance shaft delete, which was driven off of the crank chain and they were in the block.

Boost does indeed crack pistons lol.

Im not wanting a very aggressive tune, i want to daily drive my car and as long as possible. Yeah i know, we all want the best of both worlds, haha. Luckily the e85 helps to have a safe yet aggressive tune
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Old Mar 19, 2014 | 12:10 AM
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I just want 500 reliable hp. Is that so much to ask for?
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Old Mar 19, 2014 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by riceburner
His bottom end was never apart though and he hasnt messed with the balance shafts i think. But everything checked out ok putting my bottom end back on. The thing is you cant check clearances without destroying a new set of bolts
That was on a built bottom end Adam
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Old Mar 19, 2014 | 08:06 AM
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Can some one answer my thought. I am seriously trying to learn...
Which thought
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Old Mar 19, 2014 | 08:10 AM
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His bottom end was never apart though and he hasnt messed with the balance shafts i think. But everything checked out ok putting my bottom end back on. The thing is you cant check clearances without destroying a new set of bolts
Your talking about plasti gauging then you just used the old griddle bolts
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Old Mar 19, 2014 | 08:16 AM
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those are stretch bolts though i think. but anyway too late now we didn't do it lol
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Old Mar 19, 2014 | 08:23 AM
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Bed plate bolts are tty but you can re use them. Especially if your just checking clearance
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Originally Posted by riceburner
I think you misunderstood the direction of question. I am not worried about my bottom end because of the cams, but the balance shaft delete, which was driven off of the crank chain and they were in the block.

Boost does indeed crack pistons lol.

Im not wanting a very aggressive tune, i want to daily drive my car and as long as possible. Yeah i know, we all want the best of both worlds, haha. Luckily the e85 helps to have a safe yet aggressive tune
So are they going to be neutrally balanced now? I really want to do my own build versus letting someone else do it, I have just never worked on a sideways engines. Sorry if I ask a lot of stupid questions, I really just want to learn.
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Old Mar 19, 2014 | 09:14 AM
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So are they going to be neutrally balanced now? I really want to do my own build versus letting someone else do it, I have just never worked on a sideways engines. Sorry if I ask a lot of stupid questions, I really just want to learn.
i understand what you were asking now.

4 cyl inline engines have different vibrations than v engines. usually balance shafts (which are actually anti-balance) are used. There are 2 offset shafts that rotate opposite of each other, creating a separate wave that "covers up" the engine vibrations. However in a performance motor these can actually become harmful, not to mention they rob hp that increases exponentially with rpm.
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Old Mar 19, 2014 | 09:18 AM
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Ok I understand now, this is why you delete it.
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Old Mar 19, 2014 | 09:26 AM
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i'm hoping the ati cancels out any 'loss of harmonics' and vibrations caused by deleting them

Originally Posted by BlackielawlessSS
So are they going to be neutrally balanced now? I really want to do my own build versus letting someone else do it, I have just never worked on a sideways engines. Sorry if I ask a lot of stupid questions, I really just want to learn.
dude you have stuck through this entire thread and seen how many rediculous questions i've asked. its ok these OG's are here to help and as i learn more i can start to help as well

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Old Mar 19, 2014 | 09:33 AM
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Awesome! I really have been trying to learn about them, and how they work.
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Old Mar 19, 2014 | 09:37 AM
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Old Mar 19, 2014 | 09:51 AM
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There's a big difference between vibrations and harmonics.
The only thing the balance shafts do is cancel out large wave feelable vibrations.
It's separate from engine harmonics.
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Old Mar 19, 2014 | 09:56 AM
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Don't wanna upset the db
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Old Mar 19, 2014 | 10:23 AM
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Awesome! I really have been trying to learn about them, and how they work.
I'm glad

Most want to be spoon fed info.
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Old Mar 19, 2014 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by TStone
Don't wanna upset the db
#goat
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Old Mar 19, 2014 | 10:26 AM
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I'm glad

Most want to be spoon fed info.
I am a hands on guy, but seeing as no one around here is doing a build, I have no choice but to read, ask questions, and then go from there. My biggest challenge I have faced was running stud mounted roller rockers on a sbf. Typical ford rockers are tq down to spec. Well not the stud mounts. It was my first build. I bet I tore the top end off 6 times, before I finally got them adjusted.
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Old Mar 19, 2014 | 10:31 AM
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you seem to know enough about how traditional v8 engines work man, as my v8 pals have found out, 4cyls are quite different, but essentially work the same way, just kinda switched around. its been a learning experience for them and will be for you too.

none of what i learned during this struck as too odd though, since i had nothing to compare it to
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Old Mar 19, 2014 | 10:40 AM
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I have built several V8 engines, so I know the legistics of how they work. I just look at the ecotec and say oh god, what have I done They seem simpler as far as intake, and head removal, vs a V8. I guess I need to get the gm build book, and stick my nose in it.
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