I just have one question with meth....Do you have to buy the TB spacers that are offered?

And what are the benefits with those spacers....OTTPerformace has them on their site.

One last thing...I looked around and didn't find a threat showing a step by step installation of a meth kit...Is there one? I might have overlooked it.

 

no you don't have to buy it, its so you don't have to cut a hole in your intake. i believe there is a how to

 

I'll keep looking cause I might have overlooked it like I said. I am looking into getting a meth kit...Most likely the progressive kit because of like others said it sprays a little under small boost and a lot WOT.

But reading through this thread opened my eyes up a lot.

And I just want to clear this up as well. As for running meth untuned, doing so is just soley for cooling(50/50 mixture) But tuning with meth is to recieve power gains, am I correct? Also, you should see power gains running it untuned just because of the lower IAT2 temps, right?

 

i believe getting it tuned will give you power cause Meth increases the octane level allowing the tuner to pull more timing having it untuned just cools don't quote me but i'm pretty sure thats right

 

Its gonna help you untuned because every stage 2 + 2.9" car I logged knocked like a bitch, mine included. The methanol is going to make you richer than you already are if you spray a 50/50. You add a 50/50 mix and get tuned and it should wake the car up a bit, plus help less **** off your injectors.

 

here is something i thought of driving home today

does anyone have dyno sheets with and without meth on a stage 2 tune with a smaller than stage 2 pully??? im kinda curious what sort of measurable difference it makes untuned.

 

yea....right now though my main concern is heat. Once the heat issues have been taken care of i'll probably tune with meth for more power and see what happens....I'm thinking about doing the windshield washer thing but just putting the meth mix cause I never use my windshield washer fluid...lol

Also, probably use the DevilsOwn brew which is 49/51 mix....should be fine right?

 

I have dyno proof of the following. Untuned methanol has no gains except lower iat2's. Tuned methanol has gains from the increase timing and hp gains depends on the amount of timing.

 

How much lower are the IAT2's anyway? Obviously it varies on your mixture. But in general on a 50/50.

Also, with tuning on meth for power, depending on the tune how much higher will the temps go...we'll say with a 80/20 like someone else mentioned on here....Is it a significant difference or is it only a couple of degrees?

 

couple of degrees difference between an 80/20 mix and a 50/50 mix. Pretty big difference from no meth to meth.

 

Alright....I still have a lot of questions about meth though. I never realized there was so much with just adding meth to the car.

Might as well ask while there are a lot of reliable people on here answering the questiones...

just wanna get this straight before I go and make a mistake...I can go out and get the DevilsOwn Progressive Kit and run a 50/50 mix and I am able to do that WITHOUT having to tune, and my car will still run fine, correct? I just don't want to go out, get a meth kit, slap it on and that be wrong...

I did look around through all of the how to's and found 1 how to on the installation of meth but nothing more. Could you give me a quick run down on what all needs to be done when I get the meth kit. Thanks a lot.

 

Buy a jug of -20* windshield wiper fluid, the blueish purple ish kind.. not the green.... make sure it is NOT the one with bug remover.... I found it for 1.97 at autozone, in the back by the coolants...
It will say "Includes Methyl Alcohol" on the bottle...

Go to walmart or whereever, get a 2 bottles of HEET for cars, not the 2 stroke one... Its 98% meth...

1 bottle of heet should get you around a 50/50 mix....

 

no. your car will produce less power.

 

and btw... you do not NEED to get a tune if you put in meth inject... Youll run cooler allowing your other mods to run more efficiently...

Basically, you just need to find a mount for your pump, connect it to your meth/water source, and hook the pump to the nozzle that sprays the meth...

you can get a throttle body spacer so you dont have to drill.. But if you dont wanna spend the extra like, 60 bucks on a spacer, you drill right into your cold air intake, id say about 2.5 to 3.5 inches back...

 

alright smart one. how much power does one lose going from 11.3 afr to 9.4 afr.

 

To be honest, im not sure....

Im not that educated, i just tried to go by what i know / read on forums...

Look area, im not one of the smartest people on here, but i do know a litttle bit... If im wrong id rather have you correct me than make me feel like an ass about it...

 

i said the car needs to be tweeked for that exact reason.

losing 20+ whp is not a brilliant way of going about modding a car. don't feel the need to mess with air fuels? spray water.

what you read on here, 75% is far from the truth.

 

haha... So if you do add meth wihtout a tune, youll lose that much power?... i guess i can see why...

How, how about if i had to install meth myself, then drive it about an hour and a half to get it tuned... is that ok?

 

that would be peachy. i lost 30 whp by just installing it, and not tweaking anything.

go figure

 

Wana see what it looks like on a dyno graph?

Look at what happens at 5600 rpms.

 

He speeks da troof...

Tune that for 11.6-12.0 across the board.. mainly from 5600 on.. and i bet you will get different results.

 

Its been fixed. Thanks.

 

And that is why I was asking before I just slap on meth and call it a day. I am wanting to get meth for cooling, and do want the ability to tune for it as well, at least at some point anyway. Any information you could give me relating to meth would be helpful.

Thanks

 

what kit does everyone have- product review?

 

i have heinz 57 kit.

part my own
part devils own
part snow performance