2.0L LSJ Performance Tech 205hp Supercharged SS tuner version. 200 lb-ft of torque.

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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 12:49 PM
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i dont feel like reading 500 post but have you estimated a price yet?
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 12:50 PM
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FMIC i think would be sweet.. and well it just looks sexy besides the fact it works awesome... the only downfall is the extra piping which might cause a slight drop in PSI(should be negligible if done correctly)
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Edubs
Why not use both water-to-air and air-to-air for optimal cooling???

The stock water-to-air is free, ya know...
Wont really need it...the ProCharger runs so cool as it is that the heat exchanger will be more then enough.

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i dont feel like reading 500 post but have you estimated a price yet?
RickyW...no price at this time but we can assure you it will be worth the price and nothing crazy like 4600.00!

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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 01:19 PM
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i still say SMP FTGDMFKAWMF's
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 02:45 PM
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Nice! Subscribed.
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 03:02 PM
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ahhhhhhhhh! I'm a believer!!!! Can't wait to see what the numbers are. Are you going to be putting this on a stock LSJ? I'm just wondering what the output will be without any mods.
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ralliartist
ahhhhhhhhh! I'm a believer!!!! Can't wait to see what the numbers are. Are you going to be putting this on a stock LSJ? I'm just wondering what the output will be without any mods.
When Chevy Tech gets on here he can tell you what mods he has and how she will handle the new fresh air being forced into the TB!
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 03:59 PM
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Not that im a big fan of the idea but all the guys who wanted to put a BOV on the car should be happy about this.
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 04:00 PM
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Not that im a big fan of the idea but all the guys who wanted to put a BOV on the car should be happy about this.
Well in this case a bov makes sense. Not that it needs to vent to atmosphere though, that's a personal choice.
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by cobi
Not that im a big fan of the idea but all the guys who wanted to put a BOV on the car should be happy about this.
just curious but why aren't you a fan of it?

it might not be a turbo or T/s but it should still be better then the stock HEATon
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Mikey851
Well in this case a bov makes sense. Not that it needs to vent to atmosphere though, that's a personal choice.
very true

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just curious but why aren't you a fan of it?

it might not be a turbo or T/s but it should still be better then the stock HEATon
Sorry im not a huge fan of the atmospheric BOV, I really like the Centri swap though.

And honetsly I could probably see myself eventually getting a BOV if I had a centri, I like the sleeper effect which is why I wouldnt want an atmospheric BOV but the centri is loud enough it doesnt matter anyway so might as well add another sweet noise to the mix

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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 04:06 PM
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I cant wait to see this when its done.As for me,i wouldnt put a centri blower on my car.I had vortech s/c on my z24.Dont get me wrong,it was very fast,but you had to beat the **** out of it,and you didnt get full boost until redline.Just when you start to feel it kick in,it was time to shift.What i like about our s/c's is,you just tap the gas and you pretty much have full boost.Im sure it will put down some decent numbers,but what good is it if all that power is made during the last couple thosand rpm?Id rather have a car that makes its power throughout the power band.Plus having it on the 2.0,it might be very laggy until the boost kicks in,no?I wouldnt take off the s/c and put another s/c on it.If take the blower off,im gonna put a turbo on the car to replace it.Thats where the real power is at.Good luck on the project.
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ptrblkz24
I cant wait to see this when its done.As for me,i wouldnt put a centri blower on my car.I had vortech s/c on my z24.Dont get me wrong,it was very fast,but you had to beat the **** out of it,and you didnt get full boost until redline.Just when you start to feel it kick in,it was time to shift.What i like about our s/c's is,you just tap the gas and you pretty much have full boost.Im sure it will put down some decent numbers,but what good is it if all that power is made during the last couple thosand rpm?Id rather have a car that makes its power throughout the power band.Plus having it on the 2.0,it might be very laggy until the boost kicks in,no?I wouldnt take off the s/c and put another s/c on it.If take the blower off,im gonna put a turbo on the car to replace it.Thats where the real power is at.Good luck on the project.
I agree with you but not on this car. If we were RWD that would be great but as it stands with our lack of traction we dont need all that power down low, we need it up top.
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 04:12 PM
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ooh sorry cobi i misunderstood your post before but +1 to needing less power off the line
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ptrblkz24
I cant wait to see this when its done.As for me,i wouldnt put a centri blower on my car.I had vortech s/c on my z24.Dont get me wrong,it was very fast,but you had to beat the **** out of it,and you didnt get full boost until redline.Just when you start to feel it kick in,it was time to shift.What i like about our s/c's is,you just tap the gas and you pretty much have full boost.Im sure it will put down some decent numbers,but what good is it if all that power is made during the last couple thosand rpm?Id rather have a car that makes its power throughout the power band.Plus having it on the 2.0,it might be very laggy until the boost kicks in,no?I wouldnt take off the s/c and put another s/c on it.If take the blower off,im gonna put a turbo on the car to replace it.Thats where the real power is at.Good luck on the project.
I know what you're saying, and for an all out dragster I would definately go turbo. But, for a fast street/strip car which will be running street tires, the centri is a good solution. On top of that, the way it makes it's power some people may ride in the car and say that it feels like it has less power than a Cobalt with the roots on it, yet the times it will run will speak for itself.

If you guys have ever seen a centrifugal Camaro or similar at the drag strip you will have noticed that the nose of the car doesn't lurch into the air like the cars which run nitrous or a blower, and the car stay level down the track and builds speed progressively. It's like exponential speed.

Edit: And, I actually have to say that I don't feel as though it's stressing your car out near as much with the centri. Even with the roots, if you are racing you will continue to give it throttle until redline because our cars make power all the way up. With the centri unlike the roots, there will not be large amounts of unuseable boost because as boost is made the engine craves more air. If daily driven with manners, this setup will present less stress to the engine.
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 06:43 PM
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Thanks guys for your input. Im going to install this kit on a completely stock cobalt. I took off the mods to start this project so that you can see the difference stock. The kit will use and an open BOV. The blower will not be like the vortech. This blower flows very very well
and we will be barly using its portential. the procharger c1 can hold 24 psi of boost and flow 1000cfm. That is about 650-675 horsepower worth of flow. So you can see we wont being using very much of its power to hit over 300 whp. And yes it will have power all the way acrossed the rpm band. Even the eaton is a bit laggy. It make boost but the car doesnt fell like it pulls untill like 5000 rpm at least IMP.

I love turbos just as much as the next, but that whine is awsome.
And the install looks like a pain in my a$$.
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 07:05 PM
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So those pictures posted are of a 2.2 ecotec in an ION, it's kind of misleading, like it's a kit for a cobalt...

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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 08:15 PM
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Yes, there on the ion. The kit is being based of the same design with modifications to fit the cobalt. But kevin is an ion guy. So thats what he has. When the procharger shows up at my door I wll post pics of the supercharger mounted in the ss.
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by chevytech007
Thanks guys for your input. Im going to install this kit on a completely stock cobalt. I took off the mods to start this project so that you can see the difference stock. The kit will use and an open BOV. The blower will not be like the vortech. This blower flows very very well
and we will be barly using its portential. the procharger c1 can hold 24 psi of boost and flow 1000cfm. That is about 650-675 horsepower worth of flow. So you can see we wont being using very much of its power to hit over 300 whp. And yes it will have power all the way acrossed the rpm band. Even the eaton is a bit laggy. It make boost but the car doesnt fell like it pulls untill like 5000 rpm at least IMP.

I love turbos just as much as the next, but that whine is awsome.
And the install looks like a pain in my a$$.
You must be stock, because my car pulled like a bat outta hell from 3000 all the way to 7000. It would hit 18 psi at 3000 rpm and climb to 19-20 at 7000.
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 11:03 PM
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I agree, from about 2500-3000 RPM I have almost full boost (1-2 psi short). Thats the advantage of the positive displacement superchargers, twin screw included.

Doesn't the procharger have a gear set to ramp up the supercharger quicker than a standard centrifugal supercharger??
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 12:07 AM
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Doesn't the procharger have a gear set to ramp up the supercharger quicker than a standard centrifugal supercharger??
yes is does 4.70:1!

ya, my cobalt is back to stock and it feels like a rent-a-car.
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by chevytech007
yes is does 4.70:1!

ya, my cobalt is back to stock and it feels like a rent-a-car.
Package has been dropped off but will be process tomorrow and being sent next day air...

I added the bracket, mounting plate, mounting bolts, and bracket bolts with locks and 2.95" pulley!

Thanks Kevin
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 12:35 AM
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I see the procharger kits on the saturns have no air filter.Are the cobalt kits gonna have one?
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 05:52 AM
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 09:23 AM
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Can we stay on subjust please.

Thanks kevin I look forward to seeing it.

Yes there will be an air filter, The saturn does have an air filter just not in those pics.
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