Official TVS Thread!!!
03-13-2013, 11:46 PM
#5151
Belvedere says: dyno is bragging rights. 1320 is the true story.
So, I say its all over at the 60ft.
so all you heros go to the 1320 and post up the results: tvs stock cam, compared to tvs s2 cams, two cars, two drivers same day ;switch drivers in the cars three runs each.
then you got something to talk about .
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aintgonnahappen.com.
PS I have dyno sheets on all the cam combos I have mentioned we have built
So, I say its all over at the 60ft.
so all you heros go to the 1320 and post up the results: tvs stock cam, compared to tvs s2 cams, two cars, two drivers same day ;switch drivers in the cars three runs each.
then you got something to talk about .
'
aintgonnahappen.com.
PS I have dyno sheets on all the cam combos I have mentioned we have built
03-14-2013, 12:08 AM
#5152
Did a few pulls today only up to about 7k but I will say that up top the difference is quite noticeable, and I really wish I could have ran it out higher, but soon enough. Started a couple pulls from about 3500rpms and yes there was a slight feeling of torque loss down there, but you can feel the power come on a bit after 4k. The car has a different feel than with the stock cams. Power comes on a little slower and smoother (slight tq loss maybe?) but it has a constant continous pulling feeling as in it pulls more and more the higher you rev. Timing is still backed down a bit but not so much that it would affect my first impressions of the cams. Thats all I got for now lol needs to stay nice out so I can drive my car more.
03-14-2013, 07:39 AM
#5155
chassis dynos are for bragging rights but best used for tuning to many different types to compare accurately know one has said the stock cams are junk they have their place but you get all hell bent and say they are worthless well the stg2 or 3 cams from zzp may be for the racing you like to do and there are other options also to have cams for the racing that you do also but you will neve see that until you take the blinder off
I said ZZP provide a very good product.
I said my customer LOVES them
I said its all over by the 60 ft.
I said for the money, price versus performance, for dd they are totally not worth it.
I said that stock cams vs. stage 2 on the 1320 my money is on stock cams, because its all over by the 60 ft.
I said go prove who is right on the track.
I said for my money I would not use them.
Now Area47 appears to agree.
Now Infraredline appears says he notices "some" torque loss
Now someone wants dyno sheets? I got them but I sure as hell am not going to go to the trouble of looking it up right now.
And in 5 minutes I guess , I think I figured out what you are saying in your post , Mr.B.
Last edited by Powell Race Parts; 03-14-2013 at 08:41 AM.
03-14-2013, 09:32 AM
#5157
lets keep on topic. #1 I didnt say they were useless, in fact, I said the only place I figure they are worth using is for 1320.
I said ZZP provide a very good product.
I said my customer LOVES them
I said its all over by the 60 ft.
I said for the money, price versus performance, for dd they are totally not worth it.
I said that stock cams vs. stage 2 on the 1320 my money is on stock cams, because its all over by the 60 ft.
I said go prove who is right on the track.
I said for my money I would not use them.
Now Area47 appears to agree.
Now Infraredline appears says he notices "some" torque loss
Now someone wants dyno sheets? I got them but I sure as hell am not going to go to the trouble of looking it up right now.
And in 5 minutes I guess , I think I figured out what you are saying in your post , Mr.B.
I said ZZP provide a very good product.
I said my customer LOVES them
I said its all over by the 60 ft.
I said for the money, price versus performance, for dd they are totally not worth it.
I said that stock cams vs. stage 2 on the 1320 my money is on stock cams, because its all over by the 60 ft.
I said go prove who is right on the track.
I said for my money I would not use them.
Now Area47 appears to agree.
Now Infraredline appears says he notices "some" torque loss
Now someone wants dyno sheets? I got them but I sure as hell am not going to go to the trouble of looking it up right now.
And in 5 minutes I guess , I think I figured out what you are saying in your post , Mr.B.
if you feel a loss in the bottom then the tune is off mine didn't loose in the bottom
the race isn't over by the 60ft and im glad you like my post get your detective hat on
03-14-2013, 11:32 AM
#5160
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jap. you're not out of injector. not even close.
scale the map if it's not already, retune. there is a few tricks with the maf and pe table crap that can gain a larger window of "indicated" idc
scale the map if it's not already, retune. there is a few tricks with the maf and pe table crap that can gain a larger window of "indicated" idc
03-14-2013, 06:22 PM
#5162
well upped the FP to 58 at base (~52at idle with vac connected) revised the tune for the FP change
made it to 8k on a stretch of road in my neighborhood, i gotta tell you, the car is a handful at upper rpm at WOT
the FP change made no net effect on IDCs that are still 110%+
i gotta do something here!
anyways 8K eye candy
made it to 8k on a stretch of road in my neighborhood, i gotta tell you, the car is a handful at upper rpm at WOT
the FP change made no net effect on IDCs that are still 110%+
i gotta do something here!
anyways 8K eye candy
03-15-2013, 08:57 AM
#5168
well upped the FP to 58 at base (~52at idle with vac connected) revised the tune for the FP change
made it to 8k on a stretch of road in my neighborhood, i gotta tell you, the car is a handful at upper rpm at WOT
the FP change made no net effect on IDCs that are still 110%+
i gotta do something here!
anyways 8K eye candy
made it to 8k on a stretch of road in my neighborhood, i gotta tell you, the car is a handful at upper rpm at WOT
the FP change made no net effect on IDCs that are still 110%+
i gotta do something here!
anyways 8K eye candy
03-15-2013, 12:00 PM
#5175
It sucks because I don't know what issues are being caused by my tune, such as winter blend and fuel trims being off because of new intake and what issues I could fix myself.
I know tuners hate tuning around "broken" cars but IDK what would be classified as "broke" if anyone gets what I'm saying
I know tuners hate tuning around "broken" cars but IDK what would be classified as "broke" if anyone gets what I'm saying