OTT Stage 2 ideas
The supercharger is not where the air is compressed. It forces more air into the intake manifold. The intake manifold is where the air is heated up and compressed. If you add moisture before the sc , i.e, water/meth injection, you will heat up the air more than if you only cooled the air in the intake manifold. The reason being, with added moisture and the more density created by it, you are compressing more air which will heat things up more. If you only compress dry(er) air and inject water/meth after the compression has taken place you are not only making the air more dense, but cooling it down too. This will def lower your ait2's. By not making your air more dense before the supercharger you are also not forcing the supercharger to work harder, thereby not heating it up more. This is a situation of making things work smarter, not harder.
To me it's all symantics. "Levels" or "stages" doesn't really matter what you call it. To quote William Shakespeare, "A rose by any other name still smells just as sweet."
the Hahn's kits are in LEVELS not STAGES...... hence why they add on to each other. Stage Kits do not, they are just additional parts you add to your vehicle that already has Stage 1. for example....... everyone that has the OTTP Stage 1.... your Stage 2 will be h/e kit, dual pass & option b. and then Stage 3 will be intake, mounts & retune. then stage 4 could be header/dp & cat-back. Stage 5 could be meth injection and another retune
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The supercharger is not where the air is compressed. It forces more air into the intake manifold. The intake manifold is where the air is heated up and compressed. If you add moisture before the sc , i.e, water/meth injection, you will heat up the air more than if you only cooled the air in the intake manifold. The reason being, with added moisture and the more density created by it, you are compressing more air which will heat things up more. If you only compress dry(er) air and inject water/meth after the compression has taken place you are not only making the air more dense, but cooling it down too. This will def lower your ait2's. By not making your air more dense before the supercharger you are also not forcing the supercharger to work harder, thereby not heating it up more. This is a situation of making things work smarter, not harder.
the water has a great cooling effect on the air..
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I could be wrong. I don't know everything. I just know that I've had this conversation a few times with a very knowledgeable source and what I posted is what he told me. Before his SS/SC was stolen (thinks he accidentally left the doors unlocked one night) he had Intense stage 3, plus several other goodies. He was one of the first to play with meth on the SS/SC and says that what he told me is what he experienced. His info is not based on theory, but application. I know it's hearsay, but take it for what it is. He's never done me, or anybody else any wrong and is always there to answer questions. He is even a founder of a multi-state Ecotec club. He was a member on this forum until his car was stolen. He was also the fastest LSJ in the Rocky Mountain Region. Even helped tune a GM stage 2 LSJ with water/meth injection to where on the same day at the same track the stage 2 + meth LSJ ran only .006 seconds slower than his car. I was there and witnessed, with time slips shown.
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The supercharger is not where the air is compressed. It forces more air into the intake manifold. The intake manifold is where the air is heated up and compressed. If you add moisture before the sc , i.e, water/meth injection, you will heat up the air more than if you only cooled the air in the intake manifold. The reason being, with added moisture and the more density created by it, you are compressing more air which will heat things up more. If you only compress dry(er) air and inject water/meth after the compression has taken place you are not only making the air more dense, but cooling it down too. This will def lower your ait2's. By not making your air more dense before the supercharger you are also not forcing the supercharger to work harder, thereby not heating it up more. This is a situation of making things work smarter, not harder.
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No your both on the right track..
but.. when hes talking about air becoming more dense due to the moisture.. which is true.. but the water cools the air (and the s/c) enough to the point where the cooling effect over powers.
but.. when hes talking about air becoming more dense due to the moisture.. which is true.. but the water cools the air (and the s/c) enough to the point where the cooling effect over powers.
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If that stage 2 kit comes out that you listed there ill buy it the day its released that sounds like a good kit to me, and the price seems to be pretty reasonable!
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