Possible Intercooler Pump Upgrade (Pump Information)
A faster pump is a useless endeavor(period)
The faster the flow the less time in the heat exchanger and the hotter the water will be reentering the laminovas.
You have one of two ways of increasing the cooling effect.
1) add a second core for passing the water through or a larger core. The cooler the water entering the laminovas the cooler they will stay.
2. split the laminovas up and install a second pump and heat exchanger. This will in effect force cooler liquid quicker, actually 2X quicker since the flow will come from two separate sources.
The second one is not impossible to do either. And I have actually seen a pump with one electric motor attached to two pump units end to end.
If you can add a second exchanger then you can add a second pump or manufacture a "piggy back" pump and split the laminovas up.
If you are serious about cooling a supercharger then those are the ways to go and the second has been done and is a far better performer.
The faster the flow the less time in the heat exchanger and the hotter the water will be reentering the laminovas.
You have one of two ways of increasing the cooling effect.
1) add a second core for passing the water through or a larger core. The cooler the water entering the laminovas the cooler they will stay.
2. split the laminovas up and install a second pump and heat exchanger. This will in effect force cooler liquid quicker, actually 2X quicker since the flow will come from two separate sources.
The second one is not impossible to do either. And I have actually seen a pump with one electric motor attached to two pump units end to end.
If you can add a second exchanger then you can add a second pump or manufacture a "piggy back" pump and split the laminovas up.
If you are serious about cooling a supercharger then those are the ways to go and the second has been done and is a far better performer.
Not driven much?
The Problem with the CM30, while it is a better built pump, is that its head pressure is less than OEM even though it does flow more GPM unrestricted. Mercedes Benz guys were using that as the go to option for the 002 replacement until more date came out about how it flowed restricted. Then the 010 was released and it is the go to pump for them all.
The Problem with the CM30, while it is a better built pump, is that its head pressure is less than OEM even though it does flow more GPM unrestricted. Mercedes Benz guys were using that as the go to option for the 002 replacement until more date came out about how it flowed restricted. Then the 010 was released and it is the go to pump for them all.
He knew that buying the pump but wanted something that lasts longer then the Bosch. So far it's been great. As for the flow, it's not an issue. He has almost the same temps iat2 as my TVS car. In the winter I'd top out at 130 iat2, his M62 would top at 140 iat2. Still good temps.
A faster pump is a useless endeavor(period)
The faster the flow the less time in the heat exchanger and the hotter the water will be reentering the laminovas.
You have one of two ways of increasing the cooling effect.
1) add a second core for passing the water through or a larger core. The cooler the water entering the laminovas the cooler they will stay.
2. split the laminovas up and install a second pump and heat exchanger. This will in effect force cooler liquid quicker, actually 2X quicker since the flow will come from two separate sources.
The second one is not impossible to do either. And I have actually seen a pump with one electric motor attached to two pump units end to end.
If you can add a second exchanger then you can add a second pump or manufacture a "piggy back" pump and split the laminovas up.
If you are serious about cooling a supercharger then those are the ways to go and the second has been done and is a far better performer.
The faster the flow the less time in the heat exchanger and the hotter the water will be reentering the laminovas.
You have one of two ways of increasing the cooling effect.
1) add a second core for passing the water through or a larger core. The cooler the water entering the laminovas the cooler they will stay.
2. split the laminovas up and install a second pump and heat exchanger. This will in effect force cooler liquid quicker, actually 2X quicker since the flow will come from two separate sources.
The second one is not impossible to do either. And I have actually seen a pump with one electric motor attached to two pump units end to end.
If you can add a second exchanger then you can add a second pump or manufacture a "piggy back" pump and split the laminovas up.
If you are serious about cooling a supercharger then those are the ways to go and the second has been done and is a far better performer.
Why you gotta be the motha ****** fun police?
A faster pump is a useless endeavor(period)
The faster the flow the less time in the heat exchanger and the hotter the water will be reentering the laminovas.
You have one of two ways of increasing the cooling effect.
1) add a second core for passing the water through or a larger core. The cooler the water entering the laminovas the cooler they will stay.
2. split the laminovas up and install a second pump and heat exchanger. This will in effect force cooler liquid quicker, actually 2X quicker since the flow will come from two separate sources.
The second one is not impossible to do either. And I have actually seen a pump with one electric motor attached to two pump units end to end.
If you can add a second exchanger then you can add a second pump or manufacture a "piggy back" pump and split the laminovas up.
If you are serious about cooling a supercharger then those are the ways to go and the second has been done and is a far better performer.
The faster the flow the less time in the heat exchanger and the hotter the water will be reentering the laminovas.
You have one of two ways of increasing the cooling effect.
1) add a second core for passing the water through or a larger core. The cooler the water entering the laminovas the cooler they will stay.
2. split the laminovas up and install a second pump and heat exchanger. This will in effect force cooler liquid quicker, actually 2X quicker since the flow will come from two separate sources.
The second one is not impossible to do either. And I have actually seen a pump with one electric motor attached to two pump units end to end.
If you can add a second exchanger then you can add a second pump or manufacture a "piggy back" pump and split the laminovas up.
If you are serious about cooling a supercharger then those are the ways to go and the second has been done and is a far better performer.
A faster pump is a useless endeavor(period)
The faster the flow the less time in the heat exchanger and the hotter the water will be reentering the laminovas.
You have one of two ways of increasing the cooling effect.
1) add a second core for passing the water through or a larger core. The cooler the water entering the laminovas the cooler they will stay.
2. split the laminovas up and install a second pump and heat exchanger. This will in effect force cooler liquid quicker, actually 2X quicker since the flow will come from two separate sources.
The second one is not impossible to do either. And I have actually seen a pump with one electric motor attached to two pump units end to end.
If you can add a second exchanger then you can add a second pump or manufacture a "piggy back" pump and split the laminovas up.
If you are serious about cooling a supercharger then those are the ways to go and the second has been done and is a far better performer.
The faster the flow the less time in the heat exchanger and the hotter the water will be reentering the laminovas.
You have one of two ways of increasing the cooling effect.
1) add a second core for passing the water through or a larger core. The cooler the water entering the laminovas the cooler they will stay.
2. split the laminovas up and install a second pump and heat exchanger. This will in effect force cooler liquid quicker, actually 2X quicker since the flow will come from two separate sources.
The second one is not impossible to do either. And I have actually seen a pump with one electric motor attached to two pump units end to end.
If you can add a second exchanger then you can add a second pump or manufacture a "piggy back" pump and split the laminovas up.
If you are serious about cooling a supercharger then those are the ways to go and the second has been done and is a far better performer.
How sure are we the the OEM pump is moving coolant at the most efficient speed for the most beneficial cooling though?
GM did not have this pump designed for the cooling system in this car so we are only really left to assume they designed the cooling system for the pump they used. I am not saying you are wrong, it is a great point honestly and one I did not originally think of.
How sure are we the the OEM pump is moving coolant at the most efficient speed for the most beneficial cooling though?
GM did not have this pump designed for the cooling system in this car so we are only really left to assume they designed the cooling system for the pump they used. I am not saying you are wrong, it is a great point honestly and one I did not originally think of.
GM did not have this pump designed for the cooling system in this car so we are only really left to assume they designed the cooling system for the pump they used. I am not saying you are wrong, it is a great point honestly and one I did not originally think of.
I doubt gm designed a pump around our system or the system around a pump
Best I see is 40 over outside air temps cruising.
I have fresh coolant, option B, restrictor installed, FMHE.
Pump is working now (had some debris in it like you said).
The way the car sits on a 2.9 with 60's it couldn't make it down the 1/4 because it will hit boost/timing cut due to heat. Car cuts timing and boost at 165 degree IAT2.
by mid third car (from a dig) the car hits that temp.
I have fresh coolant, option B, restrictor installed, FMHE.
Pump is working now (had some debris in it like you said).
The way the car sits on a 2.9 with 60's it couldn't make it down the 1/4 because it will hit boost/timing cut due to heat. Car cuts timing and boost at 165 degree IAT2.
by mid third car (from a dig) the car hits that temp.
Best I see is 40 over outside air temps cruising.
I have fresh coolant, option B, restrictor installed, FMHE.
Pump is working now (had some debris in it like you said).
The way the car sits on a 2.9 with 60's it couldn't make it down the 1/4 because it will hit boost/timing cut due to heat. Car cuts timing and boost at 165 degree IAT2.
by mid third car (from a dig) the car hits that temp.
I have fresh coolant, option B, restrictor installed, FMHE.
Pump is working now (had some debris in it like you said).
The way the car sits on a 2.9 with 60's it couldn't make it down the 1/4 because it will hit boost/timing cut due to heat. Car cuts timing and boost at 165 degree IAT2.
by mid third car (from a dig) the car hits that temp.
you still have air in the system or the pump could be starting to **** out even with the option b it took mine a little while to bleed another thing is if you setup the option b like how zzp has said to do its supposed to be better and faster
Last edited by mrbelvedere; Aug 29, 2014 at 10:31 AM.
it should work how well who knows from what I have read the best place to run your option b line is directly from the top core to the tank as that's where most or all of the air gets trapped in the manifold
To what specs?
Last edited by blueLNFftw; Aug 29, 2014 at 10:35 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
I did not come across anything saying this. I am interested.





