Stage 3 Proof...
11-03-2005, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by p7x
Ok.. And? That's a built track car. If you wanna do that. Put it against a built Skyline race car.
11-03-2005, 02:03 PM
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The TIME ATTAK car is the car from the Street Tuner Challenge show on SPEED. They built the motor to cope with the boost IIRC...
- Eagle billet Rods
- Wiseco Pistons
- CNC ported head
- aluminum flywheel
So if THAT's what they meant by stage 3... I doubt you'll see it anytime soon in your Chevy dealer! LOL
PS> It DID beat the Skyline in the show... but it "broke"
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- Eagle billet Rods
- Wiseco Pistons
- CNC ported head
- aluminum flywheel
So if THAT's what they meant by stage 3... I doubt you'll see it anytime soon in your Chevy dealer! LOL
PS> It DID beat the Skyline in the show... but it "broke"
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11-03-2005, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex47
MOPAR asks that you use 100 octane but it will work fine with 94 octane from Sunoco or with water/alc injection u can run on HOM all day.
BTW the SRT is rated at 230 HP and 250 TQ at the fly wheel but it does that to the wheels stock so mopar is under rated to?
BTW the SRT is rated at 230 HP and 250 TQ at the fly wheel but it does that to the wheels stock so mopar is under rated to?
Running 94 octane with a Stage 3 in regular mode (not race gas mode) will yield you 310HP. Perhaps you could get away with running HOM with 94 octane if you had water/alchohol injection, but I don't think its worth your engine to try it
As for the SRT-4's stock HP/Torque rating, its underrated from the factory, just as the Cobalt SS S/C is. The SRT-4 is rated (stock) at 230HP, but most dyno at 230HP to the wheels, meaning the actual flywheel HP is about 260. Most SS S/C's dyno about 210WHP, meaning they are making 240HP at the flywheel. The 20 Flywheel HP difference explains why the SRT-4 is slightly quicker than the Cobalt SS S/C stock
11-03-2005, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by wesmanw02
To get 355HP in the stage 3 SRT-4, you need to fill the tank with 100 octane racing gas, and then use the "Turbo Toys" to activate "High Octane" mode. Then, and only then, will you actually get 355HP.
Running 94 octane with a Stage 3 in regular mode (not race gas mode) will yield you 310HP. Perhaps you could get away with running HOM with 94 octane if you had water/alchohol injection, but I don't think its worth your engine to try it
As for the SRT-4's stock HP/Torque rating, its underrated from the factory, just as the Cobalt SS S/C is. The SRT-4 is rated (stock) at 230HP, but most dyno at 230HP to the wheels, meaning the actual flywheel HP is about 260. Most SS S/C's dyno about 210WHP, meaning they are making 240HP at the flywheel. The 20 Flywheel HP difference explains why the SRT-4 is slightly quicker than the Cobalt SS S/C stock
Running 94 octane with a Stage 3 in regular mode (not race gas mode) will yield you 310HP. Perhaps you could get away with running HOM with 94 octane if you had water/alchohol injection, but I don't think its worth your engine to try it
As for the SRT-4's stock HP/Torque rating, its underrated from the factory, just as the Cobalt SS S/C is. The SRT-4 is rated (stock) at 230HP, but most dyno at 230HP to the wheels, meaning the actual flywheel HP is about 260. Most SS S/C's dyno about 210WHP, meaning they are making 240HP at the flywheel. The 20 Flywheel HP difference explains why the SRT-4 is slightly quicker than the Cobalt SS S/C stock
11-03-2005, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by WopOnTour
Don't you guys have an Neon forum somewhere to go to and argue about the SRT?
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^^^^^^^^^^^agreed.
But it will be a constant arguement between us and them..
11-03-2005, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by WopOnTour
Don't you guys have an Neon forum somewhere to go to and argue about the SRT?
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11-03-2005, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by p7x
Read the the time attack article the stage II or III cobalt beat the TT skyline.
This says it all
The Cobalt build team was comprised of engineers and designers from the GM Performance Division and Powell Motorsports, while the Nissan Skyline was built by XS Engineering and the Jetta was assembled by Autobahn Designs.
11-03-2005, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by UtOhCop
Ok.. And? That's a built track car. If you wanna do that. Put it against a built Skyline race car.
11-03-2005, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BLKSS
Did you guys notice that back end turbo for the exhaust?
But hey maybe inefficient supercharger + inefficient turbocharger = 100% efficient intake system
11-03-2005, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by VaMP
I hope you guys know that a skyline in the hands of a company cabible of making it a race car - it would totally whip a Cobalt SS anyday...
Um, Duh.
11-03-2005, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by UtOhCop
Here's a better question. Stage 3 is only putting out what 263 horsepower?
That just show's that the blower is pretty much ******* maxed.
That just show's that the blower is pretty much ******* maxed.
11-03-2005, 05:50 PM
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Since only one other person has pointed this out so far, and he seems to have been ignored...
Notice that the peak hp is a 7k!!! That extra 500rpm is a considerable improvment when our shitty gear ratios are considered... I want to go to 7.5 on mine personally... but 7k is a good start..
Notice that the peak hp is a 7k!!! That extra 500rpm is a considerable improvment when our shitty gear ratios are considered... I want to go to 7.5 on mine personally... but 7k is a good start..
11-03-2005, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SloBaltSS
Since only one other person has pointed this out so far, and he seems to have been ignored...
Notice that the peak hp is a 7k!!! That extra 500rpm is a considerable improvment when our shitty gear ratios are considered... I want to go to 7.5 on mine personally... but 7k is a good start..
Notice that the peak hp is a 7k!!! That extra 500rpm is a considerable improvment when our shitty gear ratios are considered... I want to go to 7.5 on mine personally... but 7k is a good start..
Do you want your M62 to blow up?
11-03-2005, 06:07 PM
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I don't believe there will be a stage three for us under warrenty..... anyway. The reason being the use of nitrous. After reading this thread it is apparent the stage three is connected to the car at the sema show. So don't get all heated up about it. 
11-03-2005, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by VaMP
Why even have a stage 3 then? Or a stage 2 for that matter?
Another Stage w/ supercharger swap for the all out mothas, Like me
If im not mistaken stage 3 for the srt has to upgrade to a bigger turbo.
11-03-2005, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by betterthanbad
I don't believe there will be a stage three for us under warrenty..... anyway. The reason being the use of nitrous. After reading this thread it is apparent the stage three is connected to the car at the sema show. So don't get all heated up about it.
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