Trifecta Tuning on LSJs?
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i have asked this question many times and yet to be answered...... i know you dont remote tune area and god we all wish we could drive down to get you to tune...... who in the hell do you suggest to remote tune? coz i feel that vince has a better track record then most on this forum? and probally the safest option..... but please i really dont know who remote tunes and you would back them to be a excellent tuner?
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it would be a at least a day or two drive for me to come see ya..... the car would make it easily but still i would need to take time from work to go down to see you..... which in my thoughts that would be fun... still not the greatest option.... our best guy is in aussieland and doubt he is ever coming back..... so it leaves us in a bind due to the lack of tuners..... so it leaves us with the same question.... i bet blue has a similar issue being in winterpeg.... i dont recall who does flatgod's car..... all im pointing out is that tuners are not easily available anymore..... so i myself choose vince only because of his track record being better then most.....
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Exactly what I've been trying to make happen. As for your comment about GMS3 earlier, you WERE right. That's how it used to be (and can still be if that's what the customer wants). Now we offer the GMS3 OS to all LSJ customers at no extra charge. Used to be like $100 more than a regular Trifecta tune but now it's included if you want it. 
[QUOTE=Area47;6795807]simple search is simple.
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-0l...d-time-222168/
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-0l...-ratio-258491/
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thats only the start. dig for cruze and sonic's blowing out the turbo's.
running 11.5-11.8 afr on a di motor is safe eh?
whats even more fun, dealers for vince flat out not telling the customer what afr the vehicle is running at.
sweet.[/QUOUTE]
[QUOTE=padlock;6795861]to further the links... remember this one
EFR Tune Problems - HP Tuners Bulletin Board[/QUOUTE]
cant wait to line up
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thats only the start. dig for cruze and sonic's blowing out the turbo's.
running 11.5-11.8 afr on a di motor is safe eh?
whats even more fun, dealers for vince flat out not telling the customer what afr the vehicle is running at.
sweet.[/QUOUTE]
[QUOTE=padlock;6795861]to further the links... remember this one
EFR Tune Problems - HP Tuners Bulletin Board[/QUOUTE]
cant wait to line up
Last edited by strazdice; Nov 16, 2012 at 03:23 PM.
When have I called myself a pro? 
I've looked into this a lot the past 6-8 months, just as anyone should who gets tuned. Most big name tuners (including vince) have blown cars up. Go ahead and post some HPtune links that have blown. they are out there. I realize that. IDC. Its really a matter of who you want to take your chances with is all it comes down to. Realizing whats conservative/safe is also important. this also never really got brought up, but many HPtuners are much cheaper than Vince and his affilaite dealers (who turn up prices even more) are as well (mike you know I contacted you regarding going trifecta a while ago, you're price was beat by a longshot going HP and that is worth something as well given you find a knowledgable tuner, esp if you have friends to split it with you as in my circumstances). there are lots of variables to take in for people. if you choose to ignore Area (and Term for that matter) then fine thats your choice, but given Powell and other big names on the HPforums listen to him I feel retarded not to at least take in his advice
I've looked into this a lot the past 6-8 months, just as anyone should who gets tuned. Most big name tuners (including vince) have blown cars up. Go ahead and post some HPtune links that have blown. they are out there. I realize that. IDC. Its really a matter of who you want to take your chances with is all it comes down to. Realizing whats conservative/safe is also important. this also never really got brought up, but many HPtuners are much cheaper than Vince and his affilaite dealers (who turn up prices even more) are as well (mike you know I contacted you regarding going trifecta a while ago, you're price was beat by a longshot going HP and that is worth something as well given you find a knowledgable tuner, esp if you have friends to split it with you as in my circumstances). there are lots of variables to take in for people. if you choose to ignore Area (and Term for that matter) then fine thats your choice, but given Powell and other big names on the HPforums listen to him I feel retarded not to at least take in his advice
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When have I called myself a pro?
I've looked into this a lot the past 6-8 months, just as anyone should who gets tuned. Most big name tuners (including vince) have blown cars up. Go ahead and post some HPtune links that have blown. they are out there. I realize that. IDC. Its really a matter of who you want to take your chances with is all it comes down to. Realizing whats conservative/safe is also important. this also never really got brought up, but many HPtuners are much cheaper than Vince and his affilaite dealers (who turn up prices even more) are as well (mike you know I contacted you regarding going trifecta a while ago, you're price was beat by a longshot going HP and that is worth something as well given you find a knowledgable tuner, esp if you have friends to split it with you as in my circumstances). there are lots of variables to take in for people. if you choose to ignore Area (and Term for that matter) then fine thats your choice, but given Powell and other big names on the HPforums listen to him I feel retarded not to at least take in his advice
I've looked into this a lot the past 6-8 months, just as anyone should who gets tuned. Most big name tuners (including vince) have blown cars up. Go ahead and post some HPtune links that have blown. they are out there. I realize that. IDC. Its really a matter of who you want to take your chances with is all it comes down to. Realizing whats conservative/safe is also important. this also never really got brought up, but many HPtuners are much cheaper than Vince and his affilaite dealers (who turn up prices even more) are as well (mike you know I contacted you regarding going trifecta a while ago, you're price was beat by a longshot going HP and that is worth something as well given you find a knowledgable tuner, esp if you have friends to split it with you as in my circumstances). there are lots of variables to take in for people. if you choose to ignore Area (and Term for that matter) then fine thats your choice, but given Powell and other big names on the HPforums listen to him I feel retarded not to at least take in his advice
Cool you should have her work for trifecta............. all things aside what is the big isssue with remote tunning to you aside from you not being there to see whats going on and looking at the car? you could help out a lot of ppl on here and make some extra cash.
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too many variables. hands on tuning is a whole lot different than staring at a screen. numbers on a screen can be fudged to be whatever you want them to. i can show you a datalog of an lnf car pushing 60lb/min through the stock turbo. that means dick.
there is more to tuning a car than looking at a log. period.
there is more to tuning a car than looking at a log. period.
BTW i did edit the post you quoted do to it being a poor statement of words and not who i am-Area47
Padlock- i also did edit yours because of poor wording on my end
and to the guy above yes it is
Padlock- i also did edit yours because of poor wording on my end
and to the guy above yes it is
Area47, can you at least admit to the fact you would'nt be tunning the way you do if it wasnt for Vince unlocking more tables? Thats pretty well known. Also does hpt send a base tune with the credit or just what the car shows stock? I would like some clarification on that.
Hpt doesn't include anything in the way of a tune because of liability. It is only a tool same as a wrench.
That being said there are tunes that users have uploaded to the repository on the forum. I wouldn't copy someone else's tune onto my car but they are worth looking at for comparison purposes.
As a trifecta dealer you might want to try out the free download. It won't let you scan but it does allow you to look at tunes and configs to give you an idea what your competitors are doing
That being said there are tunes that users have uploaded to the repository on the forum. I wouldn't copy someone else's tune onto my car but they are worth looking at for comparison purposes.
As a trifecta dealer you might want to try out the free download. It won't let you scan but it does allow you to look at tunes and configs to give you an idea what your competitors are doing
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Area47, can you at least admit to the fact you would'nt be tunning the way you do if it wasnt for Vince unlocking more tables? Thats pretty well known. Also does hpt send a base tune with the credit or just what the car shows stock? I would like some clarification on that.
hpt comes with no base files. you pull the gm file from the car and go from there.
Hpt doesn't include anything in the way of a tune because of liability. It is only a tool same as a wrench.
That being said there are tunes that users have uploaded to the repository on the forum. I wouldn't copy someone else's tune onto my car but they are worth looking at for comparison purposes.
As a trifecta dealer you might want to try out the free download. It won't let you scan but it does allow you to look at tunes and configs to give you an idea what your competitors are doing
That being said there are tunes that users have uploaded to the repository on the forum. I wouldn't copy someone else's tune onto my car but they are worth looking at for comparison purposes.
As a trifecta dealer you might want to try out the free download. It won't let you scan but it does allow you to look at tunes and configs to give you an idea what your competitors are doing
i was cranking over 330whp in the lnf with the basics that hpt offered in the begining. before the wga tables, before the additional fuel tables. they were always there, just needed to ask for them.
hpt comes with no base files. you pull the gm file from the car and go from there.
hpt comes with no base files. you pull the gm file from the car and go from there.
Last edited by strazdice; Nov 18, 2012 at 02:06 AM.
What do u mean how did I log with an interceptor?? 
It's the same as doing a pull with HPT and logging the results. No, u wont get as many parameters at once as with HPT, but after back to back pulls and recording two parameters at once u get what u need info wise.
I logged timing, cmnd a/f, a/f ratio, injector pw, fuel trims, O2 output, MAF, etc.
I get around a min per recording fyi.
There is nothing to argue (not saying u r, but I sense u still don't understand or believe me).... the parameters are the same with both the standard GM flash of the GMR S3 tune or the flash with a/c unlocked.
As I've said before, nothing will change unless u opt for custom tuning.
Like I said, if u still don't believe me, I have the e-mails to back it up. I'll send u them if u would like.
It's the same as doing a pull with HPT and logging the results. No, u wont get as many parameters at once as with HPT, but after back to back pulls and recording two parameters at once u get what u need info wise.I logged timing, cmnd a/f, a/f ratio, injector pw, fuel trims, O2 output, MAF, etc.
I get around a min per recording fyi.
There is nothing to argue (not saying u r, but I sense u still don't understand or believe me).... the parameters are the same with both the standard GM flash of the GMR S3 tune or the flash with a/c unlocked.
As I've said before, nothing will change unless u opt for custom tuning.
Like I said, if u still don't believe me, I have the e-mails to back it up. I'll send u them if u would like.
I know at one time the Trifecta unlocked GM Stage 3 was also HPT compatible, bur not anymore. Has anyone ever logged the older versions of the Trifecta unlocked version through HPT?
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By logging are you just colleting the data and writing it down, and comparing it to the other? Just trying to figure out how you did it, incase there is a way to output the data from the Interceptor.
I know at one time the Trifecta unlocked GM Stage 3 was also HPT compatible, bur not anymore. Has anyone ever logged the older versions of the Trifecta unlocked version through HPT?
I know at one time the Trifecta unlocked GM Stage 3 was also HPT compatible, bur not anymore. Has anyone ever logged the older versions of the Trifecta unlocked version through HPT?
I did not opt for an unlocked version. I can not alter my tune. Although, I'm sure u can log it with HPT no problem. You just can't tune/alter the parameters.
Again, if u are looking for the legit GMR S3 tune with A/C unlocked, you need to select what I did.
Last edited by Staged07SS; Nov 19, 2012 at 08:31 AM.
well it seem trifecta has popped an engine after all
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