hey guys, I have been talking on here a while about my plans of building up or rebuilding my 06 LS 2.2L. it is paid off and begging for power. I am a fan of NA. And I am wondering, it would be rather difficult to convert my 2.2 into a 2.4. So I am looking into and researching swapping that old 2.2 out and slapping in a 2.4L. keeping my same F23 manual tranny and going with a LSD and all that good.fun stuff.

is this a reasonable idea? Can I swap out the engine and computer (PCM) and everything. Will this work. I would like to buy a used 2.4L and rebuild it. new pistons/rods, cams, head, so on and so forth, I want to make over 250Whp NA. When it is ready I can drop it in and this whole time I will still of had my balt as a DD.

what do you guys think? this way I will have good tuning available having the 2.4

one problem I have though is I have been doing a lot of research on my 2.2 and gathered a good parts list for my build. I dont really know what is compatible between the two and if some of the parts I want are even made for the 2.4 like cams and such

 

I'm new to this but I'm taking a guess that the 2.2 and 2.4 probably share the same block that probably the top end just built differently.

 

I dont know about that but if they were the crank would be different to lengthen the piston travel for that .2 displacement.

 

in theory, you could swap the block, however, for the cost of that, it'd probably be a better bet to just have the 2.2 rebuilt hotter.

 

The amount of work you would have to do and the parts you would have to buy its honestly just easier to buy a 2.4 and go from there. I'm not trying to put you down, or call it dumb. The issue is that the ECM's and other supporting systems linked to them may be visually similar they are vastly different in function. If you have a 2.2 your stuck within the limitations of the 2.2 ECM which is at the moment significant but it is changing. The 2.0 and 2.4 are both supported by HP tuners and are essentially infinitely adjustable. I have looked at doing a 2.0 swap last year when I bought my car but you would need an ECM, harness, BCM, various other electronic parts unknown, and then all the various engine parts. To do it right you'd need a car that has had the ass end wiped out and you strip everything from it and transfer it all. Its just not cost effective, not to mention if you have emissions testing the vehicle will fail because the VIN on the car will not match the VIN stored in the ECM.

There is a list of parts on the site that are transferable between the various ecotecs. Search that out and start planning a stroker 2.2 with a port and polished LSJ head and cams. Its one of my fantasy builds, make it happen

 

for all the money you're going to spend, and all the work involved, just curious as to why you would want the 2.4? i could understand if you wanted to put a crazy engine in and call it a day, but you're planning a build. so why not just build your 2.2?

 

in case there was any confusion, I was planning on swapping in a used 2.4. And the reason I asked was to see how difficult it would be. I figured if I could get one for like $700 then it would be worth it. But thats the very reason I asked, so thanks for the info. It would be easier to just work with my 2.2

ok I looked around and found something worthwhile. I have been planning on supercharging my 2.2 for at least 300Whp. I always had the idea of a NA build as well, sort of in case my build got way too expensive and I could go without the supercharger. well I am a fan of prochargers and Speed mafia makes the kit for the 2.2. That is what I have recently been planning. I looked into using the M62 off of a LSJ and saw the thread on here of a guys build and what-not. It looked like maybe it was too much of a headache for me.

BUT BUT BUT, I found a used LSJ on ebay I am probably going to buy. It is complete with ECU, tranny and differential and still runs. I am going to buy it, take off all the parts I need to switch to my 2.2 to supercharge it. then I am going to sell the rest of the engine and tranny. A lot of guys on here are getting rid of there M62 for something else anyway so maybe someone would want the engine for there build. I am excited and I hope this works for me.

It looks as though there is now tuning out for us 2.2's (hopefully) so this should work just fine. The other important part is the cost. If we look at this in terms of cost for a "kit", the speed mafia procharger kit is $2800 w/out an intercooler. Turbo kits are as much or more. This will be WAY less. I can hopefully get this engine for less than $1300 or so but still be able to sell the rest of it and come out pretty good.

 

not saying it cant be done, but your gonna be putting a lot into your engine if you want 300 whp with a centri.

 

why dont you trade it in for a 2.4 or even better ss/sc

 

if you want to go for 300whp, and don't want a headache, seriously just trade the car in. don't forget you'll also have to upgrade yoru whole drivetrain, not just the engine. also need whole new suspension, brakes, etc. this is not a simple job.

 

yes I know. I have the parts list I need. and in the last post I said I will be using the M62, not a centrifugal.

I will be redoing the whole suspension, new clutch, all of the supporting mods like motor and tranny mounts. new wheels, brakes, yeah........a lot of stuff.

so heres the plan just to recap - I am going to supercharge my 2.2 by taking all the parts directly off of a 2.0L, I am also doing a lot internally, rods/pistons, cams, head......so on.

I wanted to share my idea with you guys. I am now done thinking about a total engine swap. Do I write in a confusing manner?

 

why not get a better blower than the m62 then? all that work to be limited to such low #'s seems silly. get a more efficient supercharger while you're at it.

 

Get the GM build book for your 2.2L. Way easier and cheaper.

BTW go turbo.

 

trade is in and get ur self the new ss/tc and ull be making more power

trade it in and get ur self the new ss/sc ull be making more power

 

trading in my car would cost me more. The car is paid off.

 

if your looking for 300whp why not just for turbo, instead of swapping in a supercharger? im not very familiar with F/I, but im pretty sure with a turbo you can make more for the money

 

These guys r def right dont go with a stock sc ur better off goin turbo. I have an 06 2.2 and i just finished putting on a sts turbo and i run 6psi so i dont have to chang anythin right this minute cuz the psi isnt to high. The kit includes everything with out intercolor and its a rear mounted turbo so u dont need to change out the header or worry about throughing off codes for ur o2 sensors. The kits 2k and like i said i am running at low psi till i get money for upgrading parts to run higher psi n i give 5.7 gtos a run for their money without redlining