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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 12:37 AM
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hey your close to me im in macomb you ever out my way i saw a black one by schoener and hall the other day
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 12:38 AM
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so i read all these damn pages and didnt see what your 60ft times were? soooo what were they? and how hot was it that day?
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 12:38 AM
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i thought he said 70's
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 12:52 AM
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http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/Sp...&trimid=100971

This page has specs on the 2.2 automatic, but it is for the coupe and not the sedan.
7.87 seconds and 16.18 for the 1/4 mile.

The Car and Driver magazine says the sedan's 0-60 is 8.4 seconds.
They might have tested it at a higher elevation though, who knows.

With a half second slower 0-60, the 1/4 mile might be close to 17 seconds, anyone have the sedan's 1/4 mile time for stock?

With the exhaust and intake, you should have about 25 or so more horses.
I was told in a car that weighs 2800, it takes 30 or so horses to shave off 1 second on the 0-60 time. You weigh a little more than that and I don't think you have not gotten to 30 horses yet (could be wrong).


What does all that mean?

You probably with the bolt ons took your 0-60 from 8.4 and knocked 2/3s of a second off and should be around 7.74 seconds. Of which the 1/4 mile should be less than 16.18 and more like 16 seconds flat or so.

If the computer is not reset,or that K&N intake is causing problems for the intake sensor, or possibly even a sensor in the exhaust is giving a bad reading from either a sensor being mounted wrong, damage from install or even a loosened wire, this will make your car slower than stock.
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 12:53 AM
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hahaha 30hp to shave a second..... keep going its a little bit more than that and hp is not everything
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike85220
http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/Sp...&trimid=100971


With the exhaust and intake, you should have about 25 or so more horses.
I was told in a car that weighs 2800, it takes 30 or so horses to shave off 1 second on the 0-60 time. You weigh a little more than that and I don't think you have not gotten to 30 horses yet (could be wrong).
Ricer math at its finest.
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 01:06 AM
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no that is when you talk about how much a car cost and then say well with this much extra money my car would be faster for less
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 01:08 AM
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does anyone know for a fact 100% that i can get my 2007 2.2 tuned with HPT?
Yes if you send the chips you want dyno tuned to nelson performance here in san antonio, their the only guys in the country that can tune 2.2s. They can change any and everything you need to be changed. Once you pay the onetime tuning fee, you get free retunes for the cars life.
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by lsjwannabe
no that is when you talk about how much a car cost and then say well with this much extra money my car would be faster for less
please tell me you're joking.
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 01:09 AM
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no that is what i here to much on a lot of forums and it pisses me off its like thats great you can say that but is your car faster now NO
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 01:10 AM
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how did i miss this thread? wow. alright i was also down there when these two 2.2's were going at it.lol
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by lsjwannabe
no that is what i here to much on a lot of forums and it pisses me off its like thats great you can say that but is your car faster now NO
i don't know which misinformed sites you visit but ricer math is saying "my intake claims to give me 15 hp and my magnaflow muffler claims it gives me 20 hp so that means i have 35 hp."
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 01:13 AM
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yeah same thing if you get what i mean, you can say well my car is this much less and with so and so $$ i can run this and it is less then your car. you saying you have never seen that happen
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by DC52NV
i don't know which misinformed sites you visit but ricer math is saying "my intake claims to give me 15 hp and my magnaflow muffler claims it gives me 20 hp so that means i have 35 hp."
Quoted for truthness.. And its nice to have you back DC, its been awhile since I've seen you on.
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 01:15 AM
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is that a word??
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 01:27 AM
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Everybody in here other than the moderator and a few other people don't know what they are talking about....The tq on a 2.2 is low....so low that with an automatic it barlye pulls out of the hole at all. Yes automatics are better to drag race but when you actually have tq....

You said you gutted the interior in here, does this just include the passenger seat and backseat? That is not gutted BTW and in no way equals 100 lbs maybe 30 but thats about it. As said my cavalier 2.2 ecotec with an automatic which the cavy's are ligther than cobalts ran a 17.1 at 81 mph before I got nitrous. Your cobalt is slow because it is a 2.2, sorry guys 2.2's arn't that great unless you go the FI route.

If your car was a 5spd it would be able to launch a whole lot better becuase your small tq convertor would not be hendering how much you could rev it up on launch. There is just not enough tq with a 2.2 ecotec to get a hard launch from an automatic. Plain and simple.

Also your intake and "fart can" is probably only giving you about 5 hp over stock....that won't even equal a .1 of a second....
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 01:28 AM
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nice post im to mean to take time
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 02:16 AM
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17.1 in an automatic 2.2 is slow...cavaliers don't have the exact engine i'm guessing, i believe chevy changed things, said the cobalt engine was built much better, that, or they're heavier. Theres a guy at my local track running 16 flat with an automatic 2.2L cobalt with intake and full exhaust.....NO weight reduction......
look up the how to launch an automatic.
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 02:17 AM
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im with him
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by cobalt9123
17.1 in an automatic 2.2 is slow...cavaliers don't have the exact engine i'm guessing, i believe chevy changed things, said the cobalt engine was built much better, that, or they're heavier. Theres a guy at my local track running 16 flat with an automatic 2.2L cobalt with intake and full exhaust.....NO weight reduction......
look up the how to launch an automatic.
The cavy ecotec and cobalt ecotec are about the exact same except for emmissions and the cobalt having no throttle cable there are a few other little things but nothing major. Plus the cobalt 2.2 ecotec comes with the crappy plastic engine cover over it unlike the cavalier. The cobalts 2.2 ecotec was rated at 145 hp i believe and 150 tq...the cavalier engine was rated 140 hp and 145 tq I do believe so nothing major at all.

How to launch and automatic for dummies: Volume 1:

1. Put in drive
2. Hold brake
3. Push gas in
4. Keep holding brake
5. When light goes green release brake
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 02:21 AM
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seems a little to hard
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 02:22 AM
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To the OP, get some more, real, power mods instead of just a muffler and learn how to launch your auto. I would look into getting the SAI removed, and getting a nice header, dp, and full exhaust. Hell, you can do it ala cheap, and get a used LSJ exhaust mani, dp, and exhaust. And one time slip doesnt make your car slow. You can go to the track one day and run x.xx and the next day you may be faster or slower.
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 02:23 AM
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nice advice there are some lsj exhaust for sale in the parts section to
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by MachiBLue
To the OP, get some more, real, power mods instead of just a muffler and learn how to launch your auto. I would look into getting the SAI removed, and getting a nice header, dp, and full exhaust. Hell, you can do it ala cheap, and get a used LSJ exhaust mani, dp, and exhaust. And one time slip doesnt make your car slow. You can go to the track one day and run x.xx and the next day you may be faster or slower.
Do not get those mods...the only mods that you will see a significant difference with is FI on a 2.2 balt....with nitrous on my cavalier I went from a 17.1 @ 81 to a 15.1 @ 92
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 02:25 AM
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Yea, the LSJ exhaust parts are a good upgrade on the 2.2's.
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