that's kind of my point. he quoted 171, so i'm assuming he is making a guess at approx flywheel numbers.

that said, with a decent tuner, and an opened up header, i could believe that a 2.4 could be in the higher 190s at the flywheel.

 

I just went straight to the LSJ

 

Flywheel yes you can make 200 hp, but who the hell talks in flywheel HP unless your the dealer.

 

Paper Racing

 

well, yeah and no.

lets be honest here, horsepower has always just been a big dick contest anyway... it's a hell of a lot easier to just start pitching things out... carpets, seats, radios, these are the enemies of speedz0rz!!!!!!1111

 

Power to weight ratio is what determines how fast your car can be, and gearing if you want to get technical. Either increase power or lose weight.

 

i'm at 190 flywhel w/ just I/E/T . Full bolt-ons plus tune will net 180sih whp.

 

well, yeah... there are lots of factors i guess, if you want to think about it.

my point is, one way of measuring power is not any better than another, as long as we are all working on the same scale.

 

hmmm sooo you guys haven't looked at the dyno thread thread huh.. there are a few people running 180 WHP from a mustang dyno with full bolt ons and a tune.. in all reality though cams will get you over 200 whp even on a mustang.. one guy is pushing 187 whp and he could push his tune a bit and get 190 or more whp.. stock ss/scs put that down on a mustang so even right now he's pushing close to 200 whp on a DJ.

2.4's are stronger them people make them out to be

 

well i am just gonna keep the LS for now and mod the hell out of it i hate to see my work go so untill i get the money i am gonna wait and get the new SS/TC

PS BOOST soon to come on the LS

 

You are incorrect sir...

 

i have a 2.4, they're pretty peppy.

honestly, i don't trust WHP. i don't want to hear numbers until the engine is taken out of the car and put on a real water brake dyno, otherwise, it's all too subjective.

 

about what?


# REDFOCZ 186 whp, 177 wtq Verified Mustang Dyno I, TB, E, H, DP, T
# dtabbs 181 whp, 164 wtq Verified Mustang Dyno I, H, DP, T, E

umm why dont you trust whp? i'd rather hear a mustang dyno number then corrected sae numbers, so then i guess the 215hp is what you'd rather hear... ? that number sounds nice.. but it's not like you'll be romping ss/scs because they're rated at "205 hp"

IMO knowing what you really put out is better so you can know why you lost lol

 

The biggest difference between the LS and SS cars are the handling and the styling. The bigger engine is still more then 25 hp more.

 

there is a big difference between the 2.2 auto and the 2.4 auto. my friend and i raced at the track and i was way ahead. vvt makes abig difference, maybe the butt dyno doesnt but it is a good bit faster.

 

And don't forget, who was it? That had an over 200 WHP N/A 2.4 out in Cali. DYNO PROVEN till it was stolen.

No replacement for displacment!

 

Care to explain?

 

mmm 2.4 manual ftw. you guys can bash em but don't cout us 2.4 SS guys out just yet...



someone said it earlier in the thread.... but....



snail power ftw...

 

FORGET THE 2.4, just go get a turbo kit from hahn or garrett and call it a day. ur faster and better in the end

 

then doing a turbo 2.4? 267 whp> 210 WHP displacement and VVT FTW lol

 

People get way too butt hurt.

It depends on the grand scheme of things.

If you have a ton of $$$$$$ get the 2.4 and build it.

If you only wanna do a few mods and stop at or around 300whp get the LSJ, half the work is already done.

 

very true it does depend on your goals however the 2.4 doesn't need to be built for a while

 

for the price, the ss 2.4 is a rip-off. who would drop an extra 5 grand for a car that is barely noticably faster? I could see trading up to a ss/sc or ss/tc, but to a ss 2.4, it's too insignificant of a change to justify.

 

you're reading too much into what i'm saying, man.

my point is that a chassis dyno is a tuning tool, not a real way to measure HP. ****, a car can vary depending on the tires you have on it.

if the engines are on a stand, it's a lot more accurate a measurement.

i paid $14,500 for my 2.4

 

rofl.. there's alot more different ... tuning.... suspension.. engine... rims... rear brakes

alot of ways to justify the price difference.. and i've driven a 2.2 ion as well as my 2.4 ion... my ion is noticably faster.. honestly more so noticeable when when i test drove a redline last week ...