Keep in mind Dustin, that I would be getting it installed at a Chev dealer, and they have a parts & labor warranty on only GM/OEM stuff... so I don't think I have another option...

Besides, I am actually not a big supporter of these crazy clutches some people buy;
They often seem to just have a pressure plate with higher spring pressures, which can either change the clutch feel/engagement point, or prematurely wear out an OEM/replacement TOB...

 

The GMPP clutch is actually out of the Saab. I've read guys using it with the LNF also. Why oh why would you put a factory clutch back in. Especially since you've been talking about modding your car. Shouldn't matter what clutch they put in even if you are getting warranty work done. You're paying for the clutch. We do aftermarket upgrades if something is getting done per customer request. Just the aftermarket stuff isn't covered (obviously). My GMPP feels almost like stock.

 

what's a link to your GMPP clutch?

I'd wager that the clutch disc is the directly interchangeable betwen LNF & LSJ;
our output shafts are the same, but iirc it's the flywheels that are different - which may, or may not preclude a different TOB.

Stock stuff is pretty good...
It's all in how you unload the torque...
Even the best brakes out there do slip (clutch discs are essentially brake material on a disc)...

 

i second the gmpp notion. best clutch for the dollar.

lets not get this too confused for you lnf boys. the lnf and lsj clutch pressure plate and fly wheel are the same on both cars. they do give a seperate part number for the 2 however in real life the manufactor stamp of the flywheel is the same. the only thing different is the throw out bearing. which most lsj owners have installed the lnf thowout bearing. the gmpp clutch is not the lnf clutch.

 

Yep Mark nailed it. ZZP sells OEM 2.0 flywheels. Not LSJ or LNF specific. They are the same. Just get one from CED.

 

I like my stg4 pressure plate don't think it's heavy at all

 

The joys of a hydraulic clutch. You can get away with a lot more spring pressure and still be comfortable driving.

 

I think my setup is great 2100lbs plate with stock disc

 

So was my full STG4 but the disc wore out really fast

 

I have whatever "sachs" disk comes with the 6 speed conversion. I've been surprised it has held up to the power, as it is not a real beefy clutch.

 

Taylor what pressure plate do you have? If you have a 2100lbs+ that prob why you're OK

 

Whatever comes with the 6-speed conversion kit, the clutch and pressure plate are both Sachs. Now they have upgrades available, which I'm sure they did before, just not on the site. The new "stage 2" South Bend clutch for the F40 has a 1600# pressure plate with a Kevlar disk, and the "stage 4" has a 2000# pressure plate with a ceramic disk. I'm going to probably go with the stage 4 if mine gives me and slippage before winter. $1,100 and it comes with a flywheel too. My clutch feels just a little easier to push than the GMPP, but my GMPP has always been a little stiffer than others I've driven for some reason.

 

i have a SFI approved clutch in my truck with a ceramic disc and the pedal is very stiff but I don't mind it at all since I don't plan ever driving it in rush hour

 

I've driven a few twin disks that are good for 700+ ft lbs in my friends' Evos and STi, so I'm thinking just about any single disk setup will be pretty friendly compared to the pain in the ass the twin disks are lol

 

well, I haven't previously heard of, or read of a GMPP clutch for my car, and since my stock clutch still seems fine, I don't see a stock replacement as any kind of "fail"...

What I do like is that I bought both the clutch and TOB, including shipping, for less than I was quoted at hte dealership next door for just the clutch set;
and less than half of the total cost of the two part numbers.

 

I dealt personally with several aftermarket fancy super heavy duty clutches;
and IMHO, the aftermarket clutches with higher pressures, are great for driving the bag off a car, and dumping the clutch on a high torque setup;
but what many people fail to realise is that oem/replacement clutches can handle alot, if you don't insist on dumping them, and driving the bag off of a car...

I don't want any compromise on my clutch pedal feel...

 

It isn't if up plan to keep your car as it is. Put a ZFR or even a real tune on it and see how fast the torque ass kicks that clutch.

 

I NEVER dump the clutch but i will roll on it hard a t any RPM I don't care and my stock clutch slipped so I upgraded it. Jonathan you should try my car I bet you wouldn't mind the pedal I like it better than stok my stock clutch felt like ****

 

I care more about engagement point than I do pedal pressure that's for sure. But I do prefer a pedal with some feel to it. Drove a old accord the pedal had 6in of travel and was so soft I hated it

 

you have already failed. i just told you the lnf and lsj clutches are the same. the gmpp clutch fits. there are 100's of guys in the states and across canada running the gmpp clutch in their lnf cars. they love it as much as i love mine. i totally recommend you buy this clutch over the stock lnf. you will thank me in the future.

 

In his defense, the stock clutch will handle more than most give it credit for. I think the GMPP would be a much better option, but stock will hold up well when treated right. Held up for a year and a half on Cody's old 5557 E47 setup on 430whp before 3rd gear killed itself, and a couple local E blend LNF's with pretty aggressive torque hits are holding up, granted they have been on E for less than a year. My stock LSJ clutch held up to my TVS 2.7 setup with many track launches and still looked good when I pulled it out

 

Oh I'm not saying the clutch won't hold up for a while on an aggressive set up. But it's only gonna last so long. And if GM is paying to change your transmission and you're paying for a new clutch whyyy would you put a stock one back in haha. Unless you plan to stay relatively stock. I just remember Jon inquiring about modding his car more.

 

Fair enough;
then I'll go back to my inquery of last night - can you give me a link for a GMPP clutch for my car?

Because I haven't read of any.

I had read that the LNF clutch was an upgrade from the LSJ clutch, and the GMPP upgrade clutch for hte LSJ was essentially the LNF clutch setup... kinda like the LSJ "anti-hop kit".

 

honestly i think your throwing your money away if you put the stock pieces back in. i even got 180 000 km and 130 000 km on the 2 stock clutches in the 2 cars i have had. which in the case of the one with only 130 000 km it had plenty of life left. i really believe the gmpp clutch can not only hold more but last longer then the stock clutch. it is of high quality as for a "factory upgrade" as it gets.

crate engine depot sells it
http://www.crateenginedepot.com/Ecot...10781C700.aspx

 

Not the same clutch. Better than a LNF. Guys with high hp set ups run em without issue at all. Zrated89 used it on his last 6262 build and he said it didn't slip at all. How long it would last with 600whp tho I'm not sure lol.