spring mods
I'm not to familiar with the lsj platform, but I know the TVS will make around 300whp give or take. Coming from my personal experience with driving a balt with over 300whp, I'd say go TVS. The main reason I say this is traction. Given that these cars are front wheel drive, traction will always be a problem. If you try to take the power up too high without slicks, you're just gonna spin the wheels, nothing more. The only fun you'll have is at very illegal speeds. At over 300whp 2nd gear is tricky to use, you really have to easy the throttle on. As easily as these cars can make 400whp, you'll just spin it all away on street tires.
If you plan to take it to the track and put some slicks on it, by all means turbo it, but I know if it were my car, I'd go TVS.
If you plan to take it to the track and put some slicks on it, by all means turbo it, but I know if it were my car, I'd go TVS.
Last edited by nobody2u; Feb 10, 2013 at 09:28 PM.
That's what I am thinking too. I will be taking it to the track this summer. I want to see what kind of numbers I can get. There is a few car's around town with "big power" but they never seem to make it to the track oddly enough.
I had the TVS on my Cobalt. Its defently worth it if you arent looking for a dyno queen. Lets be realistic, the Cobalt sucks ass with high hp. You cant get traction at all with it being fwd.
Already bought:
Watt's link
T2R Torsen Diff
Catch can
Waiting till the first track day to adjust the Watt's link and then:
Upper control arms and mounts and lower control arms plus alum driveshaft and driveshaft safety loop if the finances allow.
Watt's link
T2R Torsen Diff
Catch can
Waiting till the first track day to adjust the Watt's link and then:
Upper control arms and mounts and lower control arms plus alum driveshaft and driveshaft safety loop if the finances allow.
what car are you driving that has a driveshaft? I'm ordering one as well, drops 15lbs of of rotational mass.
thanks!
absolutely, I have taken off 42 lb. with lightweight 18" wheels and you can already tell the difference. I'm keeping it N/A with little to no power mods and will take some weight off every year (hopefully, if we can afford to keep it lol).
absolutely, I have taken off 42 lb. with lightweight 18" wheels and you can already tell the difference. I'm keeping it N/A with little to no power mods and will take some weight off every year (hopefully, if we can afford to keep it lol).
Already done:
PFO1 Rims (went from 8.5 to 9.5 so the weight is equal)
AMS DP, T1R Resonated TP, Tomei Expreme catback = 46lbs dropped
Random un-needed brackets, brake dust covers = 15-20lbs
Coilovers = 7-10lbs
ACT Streetlite flywheel - 2lbs
Ordering during the summer:
AC Delete
Lightweight Battery
Aluminum Driveshaft
2 piece rotors
AMS hiflow cat (gotta get that for when i move back to halifax which will be in Sept now)
Thats really it for weight right now, also ordering in
AEM wideband failsafe and having a custom mount made in my lower center console for a cleaner look.
new fuel setup
mishimoto dual oil cooler kit
and the biggest decision, which turbo kit...
I'm going with the AMS 2.4 stroker/bore engine with the CNC fully built/ported head. Originally i was gonna go with the 750xp turbo kit with the .82 trim (precision 6262) for the spool. With the displacement added i should have no problem hitting peak boost at or beefore 4000rpm. I want around 500-600hp. Just not quite sure if the 6262 will get me there on 91 octane. Alot of the results im seeing on the forums is like 530hp on e85. If i jump to the AMS 900xp kit (6266 i believe it is) guys are hitting 600-700. Theres a local guy here with a AMS 2.2 engine with the 900xp turbo and is making ~650 on 94 octane and over 700 on C14 race fuel. Only downfall is it hits peak boost by 4500-4700~ which is abit laggy for my liking.
But yea we defently need to hit up the track next year once the car is fully tuned. My original plan was to move back in May and just ship the engine out when i get my money from the army in Sept. However i think its best to stay up here, making a **** load of money. Send my engine during the summer, put everything back together and get it running by Sept. When i get the money, pay my debt off, fly down to halifax, find a house to buy. Come back here, ship my stuff and drive the evo across canada for the nice 5000km break in period. So i think thats the better option.
yea thats what im focusing on, well kinda, still gotta get my new engine. but the way it breaks down for my car...
Already done:
PFO1 Rims (went from 8.5 to 9.5 so the weight is equal)
AMS DP, T1R Resonated TP, Tomei Expreme catback = 46lbs dropped
Random un-needed brackets, brake dust covers = 15-20lbs
Coilovers = 7-10lbs
ACT Streetlite flywheel - 2lbs
Ordering during the summer:
AC Delete
Lightweight Battery
Aluminum Driveshaft
2 piece rotors
AMS hiflow cat (gotta get that for when i move back to halifax which will be in Sept now)
Thats really it for weight right now, also ordering in
AEM wideband failsafe and having a custom mount made in my lower center console for a cleaner look.
new fuel setup
mishimoto dual oil cooler kit
and the biggest decision, which turbo kit...
I'm going with the AMS 2.4 stroker/bore engine with the CNC fully built/ported head. Originally i was gonna go with the 750xp turbo kit with the .82 trim (precision 6262) for the spool. With the displacement added i should have no problem hitting peak boost at or beefore 4000rpm. I want around 500-600hp. Just not quite sure if the 6262 will get me there on 91 octane. Alot of the results im seeing on the forums is like 530hp on e85. If i jump to the AMS 900xp kit (6266 i believe it is) guys are hitting 600-700. Theres a local guy here with a AMS 2.2 engine with the 900xp turbo and is making ~650 on 94 octane and over 700 on C14 race fuel. Only downfall is it hits peak boost by 4500-4700~ which is abit laggy for my liking.
But yea we defently need to hit up the track next year once the car is fully tuned. My original plan was to move back in May and just ship the engine out when i get my money from the army in Sept. However i think its best to stay up here, making a **** load of money. Send my engine during the summer, put everything back together and get it running by Sept. When i get the money, pay my debt off, fly down to halifax, find a house to buy. Come back here, ship my stuff and drive the evo across canada for the nice 5000km break in period. So i think thats the better option.
Already done:
PFO1 Rims (went from 8.5 to 9.5 so the weight is equal)
AMS DP, T1R Resonated TP, Tomei Expreme catback = 46lbs dropped
Random un-needed brackets, brake dust covers = 15-20lbs
Coilovers = 7-10lbs
ACT Streetlite flywheel - 2lbs
Ordering during the summer:
AC Delete
Lightweight Battery
Aluminum Driveshaft
2 piece rotors
AMS hiflow cat (gotta get that for when i move back to halifax which will be in Sept now)
Thats really it for weight right now, also ordering in
AEM wideband failsafe and having a custom mount made in my lower center console for a cleaner look.
new fuel setup
mishimoto dual oil cooler kit
and the biggest decision, which turbo kit...
I'm going with the AMS 2.4 stroker/bore engine with the CNC fully built/ported head. Originally i was gonna go with the 750xp turbo kit with the .82 trim (precision 6262) for the spool. With the displacement added i should have no problem hitting peak boost at or beefore 4000rpm. I want around 500-600hp. Just not quite sure if the 6262 will get me there on 91 octane. Alot of the results im seeing on the forums is like 530hp on e85. If i jump to the AMS 900xp kit (6266 i believe it is) guys are hitting 600-700. Theres a local guy here with a AMS 2.2 engine with the 900xp turbo and is making ~650 on 94 octane and over 700 on C14 race fuel. Only downfall is it hits peak boost by 4500-4700~ which is abit laggy for my liking.
But yea we defently need to hit up the track next year once the car is fully tuned. My original plan was to move back in May and just ship the engine out when i get my money from the army in Sept. However i think its best to stay up here, making a **** load of money. Send my engine during the summer, put everything back together and get it running by Sept. When i get the money, pay my debt off, fly down to halifax, find a house to buy. Come back here, ship my stuff and drive the evo across canada for the nice 5000km break in period. So i think thats the better option.
Sounds like a nice drive - if you haven't done the drive before, make sure to get a good amount of rest! It makes a huge difference.
As for weight savings, I will keep the A/C and audio for as long as I can. I've already taken the brake dust covers out before the first track day which were about 5-7 lb. should be able to get over 200 lb. savings after all is said and done. lighter brakes, control arms, batteries, driveshaft, rear seat delete, exhaust and some chassis members. these, including the current mods, should get me into 33xx lb which is my goal but if I don't find a sponsor, it will take a loong time lol.
How can you tell the difference pf 40lbs? thats like half a child
you can't tell the difference in acceleration but you can in turns. the effect is a little more pronounced though since the weight saved was in the wheels which is unsprung and rotating. you would hardly notice 40 lb. if taken out in body panels for example.
Yea i did the drive out here. Army gave me 9 days to get out here, i made it in 6 (driving from 8am - 5pm) and stopping in Niagra Falls for 2 days to see the falls and marine land..lol.
Yea its hard to notice anything under ~100lbs during acceleration but in the turns you notice it. Also its highly recommend once you do your weight reduction, get corner balanced. Thats what ill be doing soon as i finish the setup on my car. Now if its like 20lbs off of rotational mass, you will notice it in acceleration and decel as well.
I'm really excited for the aluminum driveshaft. Few guys have it and not only do you drop 15lbs off of rotational mass but the effects of it change how the car reacts when you take off from a light or stop sign with a aftermarket clutch. The evo tends to bog abit unless you ride the clutch. From what i been told that bog feeling goes away and it makes it alot smoother/easier to take off since i have a 6 puck clutch with lightweight flywheel.
Also im still debating the turbo, like i said, im not focused on hp, more focused on spool and powerband so i can get my ass out of the turns alot faster. Also that track back there looks like theres not alot of room to stretch out for high speed. I get to 1/2 - 3/4 through 4th gear which is 195kmh for me on the back stretch and thats pretty much it. Rest of the track is 3rd gear....maybe 2nd gear.
Yea its hard to notice anything under ~100lbs during acceleration but in the turns you notice it. Also its highly recommend once you do your weight reduction, get corner balanced. Thats what ill be doing soon as i finish the setup on my car. Now if its like 20lbs off of rotational mass, you will notice it in acceleration and decel as well.
I'm really excited for the aluminum driveshaft. Few guys have it and not only do you drop 15lbs off of rotational mass but the effects of it change how the car reacts when you take off from a light or stop sign with a aftermarket clutch. The evo tends to bog abit unless you ride the clutch. From what i been told that bog feeling goes away and it makes it alot smoother/easier to take off since i have a 6 puck clutch with lightweight flywheel.
Also im still debating the turbo, like i said, im not focused on hp, more focused on spool and powerband so i can get my ass out of the turns alot faster. Also that track back there looks like theres not alot of room to stretch out for high speed. I get to 1/2 - 3/4 through 4th gear which is 195kmh for me on the back stretch and thats pretty much it. Rest of the track is 3rd gear....maybe 2nd gear.
Yea i did the drive out here. Army gave me 9 days to get out here, i made it in 6 (driving from 8am - 5pm) and stopping in Niagra Falls for 2 days to see the falls and marine land..lol.
Yea its hard to notice anything under ~100lbs during acceleration but in the turns you notice it. Also its highly recommend once you do your weight reduction, get corner balanced. Thats what ill be doing soon as i finish the setup on my car. Now if its like 20lbs off of rotational mass, you will notice it in acceleration and decel as well.
I'm really excited for the aluminum driveshaft. Few guys have it and not only do you drop 15lbs off of rotational mass but the effects of it change how the car reacts when you take off from a light or stop sign with a aftermarket clutch. The evo tends to bog abit unless you ride the clutch. From what i been told that bog feeling goes away and it makes it alot smoother/easier to take off since i have a 6 puck clutch with lightweight flywheel.
Also im still debating the turbo, like i said, im not focused on hp, more focused on spool and powerband so i can get my ass out of the turns alot faster. Also that track back there looks like theres not alot of room to stretch out for high speed. I get to 1/2 - 3/4 through 4th gear which is 195kmh for me on the back stretch and thats pretty much it. Rest of the track is 3rd gear....maybe 2nd gear.
Yea its hard to notice anything under ~100lbs during acceleration but in the turns you notice it. Also its highly recommend once you do your weight reduction, get corner balanced. Thats what ill be doing soon as i finish the setup on my car. Now if its like 20lbs off of rotational mass, you will notice it in acceleration and decel as well.
I'm really excited for the aluminum driveshaft. Few guys have it and not only do you drop 15lbs off of rotational mass but the effects of it change how the car reacts when you take off from a light or stop sign with a aftermarket clutch. The evo tends to bog abit unless you ride the clutch. From what i been told that bog feeling goes away and it makes it alot smoother/easier to take off since i have a 6 puck clutch with lightweight flywheel.
Also im still debating the turbo, like i said, im not focused on hp, more focused on spool and powerband so i can get my ass out of the turns alot faster. Also that track back there looks like theres not alot of room to stretch out for high speed. I get to 1/2 - 3/4 through 4th gear which is 195kmh for me on the back stretch and thats pretty much it. Rest of the track is 3rd gear....maybe 2nd gear.
I do notice a difference in braking too. I notice a difference in acceleration but I can't attribute it only to the weight savings because the car comes stock with 19" wheels and I downsized to 18" so there is some slight gain in effective gearing. Where would you get corner balanced in Halifax?
Yea, light weight driveshafts make a big difference. I'm definitely looking forward to getting it done. the stock Boss engine is very stout and output is amazing across the board. I'm not even 100% set on doing any bolt ons besides the exhaust to drop some weight. I'm just going to focus on making everything around the engine more efficient. you are right, there isn't room to stretch out power on the track it is mostly a 2nd-3rd gear track. When I had the Cobalt, I could do a very decent lap only in 3rd gear but the Mustang has a more close ratio trans.
I have no clue where you can get corner balanced in Halifax. Thats going to be something i have to look for because once i get down there, or maybe sooner, ill be tossing my AMR coilovers out and going to JRZ's or Ohlins
bolt ons.. tune. then thats it for performance. im fine with around 300whp.
then ill start working on suspension/look. I need to do something about my paint. freakin swirls everywhere its annoying.. and doesnt help that its black. I've even contemplated re-painting it.
then ill start working on suspension/look. I need to do something about my paint. freakin swirls everywhere its annoying.. and doesnt help that its black. I've even contemplated re-painting it.
Gotta order a Intercooler bracket to mount my FMIC. and order chargepipes and tint the Windows and I'll be done until next winter. Just ordered the new sound system. Clutch and Turbo upgrade in the winter. Unless the clutch fails on me earlier.
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