times.. i wanna see

 

He must have done terrible if he hasnt posted yet! When i have a good day i post as soon as i get back!

 

his car probly blew up or he don't break outta 14's (yup I'm a hater).

 

the car is at the dealer with a blown motor and a very pissed off owner...

 

The car blew up before the 60' and still hasn't made it down the track. J/K, he might still be at the track.

 

You're right, it isn't common. Although i see allot of cobra's running mid 12's@ 118mph Lots of wheelspin!

 

That $hit is not funny man. I snapped an axle the first run I ever tried in the car, and never made it past the 60 ft mark! Then, a week later my rocker arm decided to break and F up my entire engine. Not cool man, not cool.

Post some damn times, Please!!!

 

Your right man, that $hit is not funny. You just bumped it up to HILARIOUS!!!!

 

My friend went 11.95@132 in his turbocharged fox mustang on regualr radials

Wheres the times , hopefully ya got some good clean passes man so we can see what the biotch ran .

 

So my lowest time was a 14.2 at 99mph!

Want to know something even worse? A 14.8 at 101mph!

Wheelspin KILLED me. I didn't have a 60' lower then 2.4 and that was WITH slicks. I really am quite furious with this car. I unfortuntely didn't get to use the nitrous because apparently my clutch is not fully broken in yet. Every time I tried to spray even the first stage the engine would just rev up quickly and make a mad dash towards the rev limiter. I am quite upset with this car. So I have a few options in mind. Sell the car, trade the car,

OR

Go all out. By all out I mean new pistons, MS-II full standalone, Quaife and wider slicks/stiffer rear springs to keep more weight towards the front (hence more traction). This would be timely and costly. So I'm not quite sure yet. I'm going to go dealership hunting today and if no one will give me decent money for my car for what I want there then I guess I'm stuck with it.

By the way, my car with me in it weighs 3,310 pounds. That probably doesn't help either. I have other slips but those were the only interesting ones to me. I wish I could have sprayed, but it was not having that at all.

Thoughts/comments/suggestions?

 

Go All OUT!!!!

 

SS and rl are trapping a 100 mph in the 1/4 w/ just bolt ons, i would'nt sell her but damn wtf! i dotn think it is the clutch its probably the solenoid or something


no way you pushing a 100+ whp then us and not in 13's tofu is in the 13's with bolt ons!

 

But is he really pushin 100+ more hp without the N20

 

You should hold of on the juice till 3rd gear! Get out of the hole and then punch it! You would for sure be in the 13's! Keep it up man!

 

I do man. Don't worry, I've had juice before. Really, that's not the problem. It's the clutch slipping in 3rd and 4th. And on the way home in 5th, with just the wet shot.

I really am beginning to wonder that. If the Intense kit does anything for the car's top end? I know it pulls beautifully down low and beginning of mid range. Maybe the RedLine gets stuck with crap PCM programming that doesn't want to accept the modified MAF signal. It really wouldn't surprise me one bit that GM would screw the Saturns over like that.

 

Told you you'd have trouble with the rev limiter with that much juice. Did it hit the rev limiter or did it just rev quicker you anticipated? Cause you know on the gas it will climb RPMs very quickly and if you're not ready to react then it can overwhelm you. But we have problems with the rev limiter and shifting on time with a .038 jet and stock clutch in 1st gear, I can't speak for the SPEC 3 but I doubt it was because it wasn't burned in yet. The SPEC 3 is a really tight clutch and I doubt it was slipping. Definitely tire spin was the culprit. What size slick? 2.4X short times are horrible for slicks. Tire pressure? Wider tire won't do as much good as a taller tire would just for reference. Launch RPM? 14.2 was on the juice or no? You say you're furious with the car, but did the car set itself up? Sounds like to me you need to re-evaluate your setup/combination.

 

I only hit the limiter once. My slowest times (15.0-15.2) came from using the nitrous and having the clutch slip horribly. And by horribly I mean HORRIBLY. I have had many nitrous setups before, I know how the revving goes. I never even tried it in 1st or 2nd. Slicks were a 225/45R17. Ran them at around 20psi. I tried launching at around 2000, but it launched a little quicker at 1200ish, just off idle. I think my next project is some sort of torque management system that pulls like 10 degrees of timing until 2500 rpm when I flip a switch or something to activate it. The only problem with that is coil on plug stuff and I am not familiar enough with this car's ignition to mess with that yet. Perhaps an FSM is in order.

 

I don't even know what to say. I was gonna post some dickheaded remark about your story, but that wouldn't help any. Than I was like I'll just scold the guy for running such lack luster times even off the bottle with his intense stage 3 kit and slicks, but then again the track is a funny place. So its what ever man i guess just try harder next time. But I will say this, these horrible times at the track from most of us cobalt and redline owners have got to stop. No reason why with just a pulley and tires the car shouldn't beable to break into the 13's easier. I'll with hold from talking smack since even I haven't been able to go to the track yet on my new setup. But if I can't pull high-mid 13's on mud and snow tires than this cars gotta go. I have 250+ wheel that ***** unexcusable.

 

I am in collaboration with a dealership right now (Who is providing me an FSM) to devise a sort of launch control system (One that mimicks GM's torque management setup) to keep low end power at a minimum when engaged. I'm sure this process is going to be rather lengthy. We'll see.

 

The SPEC 3 is slipping in 3rd and 4th gear on the spray? Our stock clutch holds up even in 3rd, the slipping is mainly 1st gear, and 2nd gear when the air is good. I don't get it. Those are the top gears how is it slipping up top. We've never had that problem even on a daily driven stock clutch. The Intense does help the top end if everything is tuned correctly and the PCM isn't pulling excessive timing. The 2.8 pulley spins the Eaton right at it's limit in terms of airflow, so it's efficiency is down and adding more heat to the charge air which can rob power if the heat isn't removed. I don't believe the factory PCM can't tune out the hard wired signal produced by the MAFT. I'm still looking into it, and haven't come up with any real solid info on the long term using the MAFT and maintaining optimum fuel enrichment.

 

That's the wrong way to go about it really. It took Frankie(owner of car) about 2 months of practicing on the street with his launches. He nutted up and bought a performance meter(G-Tech), took it out to "our track" aka asphalt street road, and just practiced launching and then the 1-2 shift with the nitrous hit. The car and his technique dead hooks on the street and track off the bottle and stock clutch with the BFG drag radial. The nitrous is useless in 1st gear because of the tall gear and relatively short tire. The money put into such a design would be worthless being that already LSJ owners have proven that if you know how to drive/launch your car then there isn't a problem once the proper modifications are done. On top of that GM's torque management is horrible. If you would have said Mercedes Benz then yea, but GM? I haven't been in a TCS GM car since the new ones have rolled of the line so maybe they are better. I assume the C6 Z06 TCS would be one to emulate. Even then, there is already an aftermarket traction control system on the market that can do what you're asking, so the R&D would be a wasted effort.

 

I don't really think it's about trying harder. It has more to do with you just can't throw some parts on a car/vehicle and expect it to dyno or run a certain number at the track on it's first go out. People throw out 13s, 12s and even 11s like it's an easy feat, and like anyone can do it. With certain platforms yes, but even then it isn't plug and play. The Intense Stage 3 will get your power level to the potential of 13 sec passes, but learning to control it and driving the car to such a number is a different story. Mid 13s on mud/snow tires? Are you serious? That's asking alot from a 2900lb 4cyl FWD car that is traction limited to begin with. You might as well start thinking of an asking price. My 28 in stock form would run mid 13s on all seasons, if I put winter tires on it it would have killed my ET.

 

I really was expecting better than what you posted. I'm sorry man, what a waste of my time to wait on this thread. better luck next time.

 

don't be such a *****.. you already spent time and money on this car. why not spend a little more and GIT- R- DONE

 

how bout you and the car lose weight . Being 33XX pounds doesnt help a bit, if you could lose 300 pounds and lower your 60' , youll be mid 13's. Of course i am going by the assumption that 100 lbs= .1 sec off ur et and for every .1 sec you take off your 60'=.2 secs off your et. Plus, if your worried about your track times so much, why would you have 200 pounds of stereo equipment in the first place?