Always crying about the SRT-4 owners, some things never change...

Roll racing generally showcases poor driving skills. The other thing is most "tuner" cars have such lousy low end that taking off from a dig makes them slow. This is why roll racing is becoming more popular IMO. There are so many variables at play with roll racing that, other than just for plain fun, it's useless.

I'll agree it's easier on the car, but the true test is from a stop. You don't see any NHRA roll racing events do you?

 

roll racing is for ricers


J/K!! haha... i've done it some, no big deal.. but, i know how fast my car is.. altho i wouldnt mind getting into a race with one of ur cars to see what it's got

 

Wrong about the cobra.. IRS = crappy launch.. why do u think they swap out their "badass IRS" or the standard GT or mach solid rear?.. better traction, less stuff to break.. IRS is total crap for racing from a dig....

With that said, i'm not trying to bash you.. I do respect your opinions on the subject. They're opinions, everyone's entitled to have them

 

Umm jason he implied that Cobras want to race from a roll because of their crappy IRS rears. Isnt that what youre trying to say also?

 

ohhh.. sorry.. i was thinking he meant they took off harder, as in "better launch".. my bad haha

 

Who wants to Roll race:
-people afraid to break their econo box
-people w/ no launching skills
-TF&TF followers that street race instead of going to the track where it matters.

Who wants to race from a Dig:
-car enthusiasts that care about their safety and the safety of others by going to the track.
-guys/girls that laugh at the stupid ricer that is revving at them on the highway.
-people w/ launching skills cuz practice makes perfect.

 

Umm I dont know what youve seen, but for the past ohhhh 50 years street racing has been raced by serious guys with serious cars from a dig. Wait, street racing from a dig (i dont even think roll racing was thought up back then) started the sport we know as drag racing didnt it I know I've seen my share of videos of guys with sub 10 second back halved Nova's, Malibus, Camaros, ect racing at a popular street racing spot, so popular that theres even rubber laid down as well as VHT in some cases.
Roll racing has its pros as well as cons. Its easier to race someone from a roll since you can go to any highway with little traffic and take somebody on and get to a higher speed. But I guess anyone laughing at roll racing can go laugh at guys with 500+hp Z06's racing Vipers on the expressway

 

i understand that a roll race is fun. hell i admit to roll racing. it's fun. but a planned roll race is just stupid. if you challenge someone, then race them from a dig where it counts.

"Who wants to race from a Dig:
- Guys with AWD Because they know what happens from a roll"

everyone knows that awd owns the streets. don't be jealous cause you can't drive/launch well enough to beat an awd car. last but not least, i've seen plenty of awd cars win from a roll as well! when i'm in my tsi and people ask me if i want to race, of course i'll say sure. but when they ask what mph do i want to go from, i laugh and say, "a dig". then they are like your awd will kill me. i'm like not if you know what you're doing. sometimes i've went home and got the bone stock ralliart just to beat them in that.

by the way, this thread is causing a lot of heat on this forum. a very hot topic. i like it.

 

Right now, roll racing seems to be the only way to show people the SS is a powerful car (for its class). Cuz most track times, aren't doing so well. The "word on the street" is that the SS is a 15 second car. It has this rep cuz of racing froma dig.

 

so you think racing from a roll is going to get you respect? time slips speak highly not war stories.

 

Couldn't have said it better myself!!! Finally somebody in the import crowd that says it!! NOt bashing imports, there's some damn fast ones and i give them respect (its just that most around here act like roll racing is the only way to go)

 

Yeah, I guess you could tell these guys that
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well my too cents on the matter is roll racing is fun but you can't really count it. I learned to launch my car and dig racing was fun, till i dumbed out two weeks a go for a split second cought some wheel hop and blew out my lower motor mount. Cause of the bad motor mount its left me crippled to just rolls till i get it fixed. But not even 1st gear rolls, still hops to ****. Gotta be in second gear at a minimum.

 

It's a funny thing. People say that only those who can't drive or 'launch' race from a roll, yet awd takes pretty much no skill at all...rev..release clutch as rolling into gas and go. I think the awd boys just don't like the disadvantage they have from a roll.

As far as awd owning the streets. Check the 60's on the rwd cars with legal DR's.

but I will say,,,affirmative action + drag race = roll racing.

 

how many AWD cars have you driven?

 

2 if you must know, an old talon and a friends STi (05).

 

And you could pull a 1.7-8 60' everytime in the STi? It's pretty easy to bog these things.

 

i know all about bad rep. my car hardly has any rep. most people think they are racing an evo. lol. it's halarious. but i think it's ok. cause when they get beat and they're like, "what the, did i just get beat by a lancer?" i'm like yep. you sure did. and it WAS NOT an evo.

there is more to it than just reving up and dumping. we do lose traction if that happens just like any other car there genious!!!!! i'm sure you know way more about launching an awd car tho. you've driven 2 of them!!!!!!

 

I think the whole idea of roll racing became popular for two reasons:

1. When stock all wheel drive cars started beating up on just about everything on the south side of 400 hp.
   
2. When people with very light cars, and tons of horsepower realized that they couldn't win dig races due to traction issues.

All that aside it's going to be a matter of personal prefrence, guys with good dig cars are going to love dig racing, guys with highway monsters are going to love the roll. Bottom line is, you can't roll race legally, so every time you do it, your taking your life and the life of others in your hands. Because of logistics, roll racing will probably never become a "local track" event, and therefore its legitimacy will forever be questioned.

 

Magazine articles and dyno slips show the capabilities of a car, racing is for exhibiting personal driving skills. Furthermore, who cares what people on the “street” think about your car, people are either going to love it or hate it, kicking their rear ends isn’t going to change their minds.

 

I don't see anything wrong with either forms of racing, the awd guys obviously wanna go from a dig cause they have a huge advantage and we the fwd guys wanna go from a roll cause we then have the adnvantage. I honestly see more roll races now a days since it's less heat.

 

either way works for me i dont have a favorite but i do like racing at the track becasue i learn more about the car with the numbers i get after each race

 

I didn't say I knew alot about launching them. I do know that there isn't much to worry about when launching, which is my point. You guys are trying to say people who race from a roll don't have the skills to go from a stop, when really awd doesn't require much skill(attention) to launch either, compared to other drivetrains

 

yay! roll racing and dig racing are fun!!!! yay!

 

Well since my other post was closed...

Pro's and cons. I saw earlier in a locked thread that someone doesnt understand where roll racing is from and slammed it as not a real form of racing. Thats fine everyone is entitled to their own opinion but I want to put mine down for the record and see what everyone else thinks.


I think roll racing goes hand in hand with street racing. If there was no such thing as street racing I dont think you would have even heard of a roll race. The reason roll racing has become so popular is because of how easy it is to compete. Your driving down the road you pull up next to a car you want to run you get their attention beep 3 times and go. Doest get much easier then that.

Its always fun to pull up next to a guy at a light and to just take off when it turns green, but with todays highways and traffic, and lack of 1/4 mile tracks within reasonable distances, this isnt always an option, which again leads to roll races.

I also think this was and is a beneficial form of race for FWD cars. We all know RWD and AWD cars have an advantage from a dig. We all know a cobalt SS wont touch an STI, EVO, or most RWD cars from a dig. FWD cars just usually need alot of work to compete in the launch department, and even then its almost not worth it when going against an AWD monster.

AWD is great, I wish the cobalt SS had it, but it doesnt. Niether does a celica, civic si, many VW, etc. Its great to know an AWD car is great from a launch and we all know thats where they are going to dominate at... Lets get them out of their natural habitat and try a roll race. IF NOTHING ELSE its interesting to see a monster AWD car get beat or atleast get hanged with from a roll. It just goes and shows that the only advantage the said car has is its AWD. Is the AWD car faster in the 1/4 YES, 0-60 YES. But its still gives you a happy feeling to pull one from a roll.

True racing is from a dig, fun spur of the moment races on the street seem to be from a roll. A roll race atleast shows which car has more pulling power from the said speed. It elminates the launch all together which often times can be error by one driver and not the other.
anyway those are my 25 cents.