I see more LS1's and 03 Cobras going from a roll than any other vehicle in Houston.

 

For money?

 

Nah, I don't think I've ever seen someone roll race for money to be honest. LOL I sure as hell would never race for money though. Especially in a Cobalt.

 

So more in likely all these "roll racing" LS1s and Cobras are just playing around? Which is kinda cool because, they are actually fast cars.

Do you play poker?

 

well if you consider racing to see who is faster playing around then I suppose yes? I didn't think the thread had anything to do with racing for money...

Poker, I only play poker with hott women. And it involves the removal of clothing.

 

Here, all the cars 13.0 and faster (except the SRT-4s) down to some 8 sec street legal cars race for money and always from a dig. Every once in awhile when they aren't on tire they will just mess around(no money) from a roll.

I brought up poker to see if you were a gamblin man. Which I kind of take the racing for money as, just another form of gambling, that I have more of an impact on the results of.
Strip poker always has the same results. Good times. Strip Gold Fish is fun too.

 

Learn how to launch ur car and stop cryin about it and it wont matter if you race someone from a roll or a dig

 

Yeah, they have a those races here..but it's pretty sparatic because of the cops.

No doubt about racing and gambling, it's almost an art hearing some of those hardcore people negotiate lol.

 

You haven't taken your basic street racing **** talking 101 course yet? "Line that POS up, so I can break it off." It is hilarious.

 

My opinion.....roll racing is for pussies. Too much room for excuses etc.
You don't go watch an NHRA event and see John Force racing his nitro coupe from a roll down the track! Race from a dig.

 

It would still be ironic cause the using the word 'misnomer' would be a misnomer in this situation. A race is a competition of speed (2+ppl = regular race,,,yourself=timetrial), a 'roll race' just starts from a moving point/speed. I point it out because you tried discredit nascar from being a race since it didn't fit your standards. You're right all those others start from a stop, but...how many qualify using the first lap time (from when the were stopped )

As for myself I'll race either way.

 

Yea, whatever. I said NASCAR was the only racing organization that starts from a roll BUT THEY HAVE A START/FINISH LINE. How does that discredit it? I never stated it wasn't racing. Where's the start/finish line in a roll race? What does qualifying have to do with roll racing? Even in qualifying it's still from a stop, so what's your point? You can't arguably justify roll racing other than YOU CAN'T LAUNCH YOUR CAR FROM A STOP BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T TAKEN THE TIME TO PRACTICE, YOU CAN'T BEAT SOMEONE ONE WAY SO YOU MUST TRY ANOTHER. Roll racing means nothing any place outside of forums and blinding neon car shows/meets. Go anywhere other than those two places speaking of roll racing you will get laughed at.

Don't forget to turn your hat around backwards and put your left hand on top of the steering wheel before you start your "race". That's worth about 20hp you know, less drag. So do you modify your horn too, when you're setting your car up for roll racing? Oh and make sure you "jiggle the knob" too, make sure it's in neutral. "click, click, click,-Look MA, I'm tearing up my synchros!"

 

The last sentence, where you toss in a bash to make yourself look more right.

You can try w/ the lame personal attacks since you want to argue semantics of what your own personal definition is. Look around you can find a vid of everything from a civic to a z06 and ford gt's going from a 'roll' but they must really be computer generated since no1 but people on forums do it.

Is this codyss's black twin or what?

 

Anyone with a fat account can go out purchase a hot performance car, video camcorder then get their buddy to film it, and then put it on the net. I didn't say the races were fake. I said go anywhere else like a NMRA, FFW, OSCA, 10.5 Shootout, SCCA race talking about highway roll racing you will get clowned. NASCAR/short track racers, the racers that are hobbyists, not professionals, mainly use junkyard cores. Either way highway roll racing is pointless, and has zero legitimate backing.

 

Zero legitimate backing?....Hmmm...Like claiming you tuned a 12 second Cobalt with no legitimate backing. IE. Time Slip, Video, Picture...

 

Legitimate backing AKA Sanctioning bodies, race tracks, sponsors. Internet verification IS NOT legitimate backing. The guys I run with don't give a **** about this internet forum crap, and truthfully I'm a bit worn out myself. But it's for the sake of helping others out on a new platform. But I know when help isn't appreciated, so you won't see anymore posts from me. Maybe I should post a slip of my car then I'll get some internet respect. But then again, I really neither desire nor require respect from a mass that is normally present in certain forums. So forget it. I only received one PM requesting info and being that he was the only one that want's to learn then it really is pointless being here.

The fact that you're asking for proof of a roughly 300hp 2900lb car on sticky rubber with a seasoned driver can make a 12 sec run means that you have no idea about performance. My 3300lb 300hp car RWD went 13.5X on real radials V rated radials at that. The fact is, a 300ish hp car with a 109 trap and low 2.0 to 1.8X short times will make high 12 passes all day. But some of you wouldn't know anything about that.

 

oh i could careless how fast the car ran and how much it weighs. I've watched 6000 lbs diesel trucks run in the 10's, big deal. I think the car is capable of running 12's I just havent seen it, so until I do I wont believe it. Its not that I DONT, I just wont. I wont tell someone the Cobalt is capable of 12's until I know its factual.

But you call people out saying racing from a roll gives you no legitimate backing. Then you get on saying my car did this and this car does that with these tires, and the only thing I've seen is words typed in a little box. At least racing with a video camera gives you something. If nothing else at least a "wow that car can pull on this car from 40 mph, neat". Most people know theres more to racing then that.

Sure its not the best way to judge the cars and drivers potential. Alot of cars perform better from a roll though. Stock Cobalt for example. Would I race a Cobalt from a dig? No, that would be the most predictible/boring race ever. Start the race from 20 mph and now you can have some fun, my traction advantage is now a slight disadvantage with more drivetrain loss and this goes vise versa for the Cobalt.

When I goto the drag strip I go to have fun. When I AutoX I go to have fun. I dont go to prove something to some hillbilly that is closed minded about how cars should or shouldnt be raced. When I leave the track I dont say "wow I really showed that Cobalt who is boss".

Believe it or not, not everyone does understand track dynamics like you do and traps, ET, short time etc etc etc dont make much sense to them. Isnt that amazing? You were the only person born knowing this stuff.

Well anyway, goodbye for the, what is this? Second or third time?

 

roll racing can be fun but not taken seriously, serious racing starts from a stop

 

Exactly!

 

Oh and correction on my post....legitimate backing as in sponcers...I dunno why but I skimmed what you said. My bad.