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Old 07-15-2008, 02:37 PM
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i voted no but i would llovvvvve to see it man!!
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Originally Posted by Deathscythe
no wonder why you care so much about cooling mods..., j/k!
The reason I'm so into the cooling mods thing is because last year, I trapped 94 bone stock, then 96 with a raised rev limit. But I gained 3mph in the 1/8th. So I was like WTF? I then put a cobra heat exchanger on with the cutout and trapped 101. All of this on street tires.

Then this year, I added the slicks, meth, and a custom tune and slapped down the 13.6@100 on the first pass. You should have seen how excited I was. Problem is, I'm still only picking up 20mph in the back half, and I think I can pick up a few extra mph without adding a pulley. Plus I won't to see close to 50 degree IAT2's. That's my goal, 50 degree IAT2's. When I discovered the killer chiller, I was super excited cause I think I may be able to do it now.

Originally Posted by rallycobalt06
i'm going to be a believer and say yes you will do it. if you let me down, oh well. you'll have a low 13 second stock pulley cobalt
lol, it's already a 13 sec stock pulley cobalt. Worst case scenario, I'll add the killer chiller and new Intake manifold and 12's should be easy.

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i voted no but i would llovvvvve to see it man!!
hopefully I can do it then. I'd love to represent the cobalt community by breaking 12's on the stock pulley. People at the track will be in such disbelief.

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Old 07-15-2008, 02:42 PM
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im gonna say 13.2...?
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Ive spent a fair bit of time around srt4s, and the absolute best 12 sec pass ive seen, with a SMOKIN good driver, was at 106mph.

so me personally, i would be very shocked to see you break 12s with a lower trap than that.
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so what do you think I'll trap with my added mods?

and then what do you think e.t. wise?

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Old 07-15-2008, 02:47 PM
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I vote yes, barely, because I like to see a different approach to building your car. If you hit the mark, with a tune by "Area", might this be the stuff of legends??...( cobalt legend anyways).....


......but maybe not on the first try......
Old 07-15-2008, 02:49 PM
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there are 4 weekends in October for me to give a shot. Hopefully I get it on my first visit, cause I really don't want to miss that much college football. lol.
Old 07-15-2008, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ralliartist
The reason I'm so into the cooling mods thing is because last year, I trapped 94 bone stock, then 96 with a raised rev limit. But I gained 3mph in the 1/8th. So I was like WTF? I then put a cobra heat exchanger on with the cutout and trapped 101. All of this on street tires.

Then this year, I added the slicks, meth, and a custom tune and slapped down the 13.6@100 on the first pass. You should have seen how excited I was. Problem is, I'm still only picking up 20mph in the back half, and I think I can pick up a few extra mph without adding a pulley. Plus I won't to see close to 50 degree IAT2's. That's my goal, 50 degree IAT2's. When I discovered the killer chiller, I was super excited cause I think I may be able to do it now.



lol, it's already a 13 sec stock pulley cobalt. Worst case scenario, I'll add the killer chiller and new Intake manifold and 12's should be easy.
that's what I'm saying. I see what you have done already, and it moves people to look into the same method. I would like for you to explain the importance of the iat and iat2 with coolant temp drops offline.(pm)
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Originally Posted by ralliartist
so what do you think I'll trap with my added mods?

and then what do you think e.t. wise?
i think youll spend most of your time around the 13.3-13.6 area with traps around 102-105
if the stars allign i can see you getting a 13.1
Old 07-15-2008, 02:55 PM
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I can respect that an0m, I just don't see me being barely below a 13.6 with the added mods. I could have easily done a low 13 that day had the roll pin not broke. I was only launching at 3500-4K rpms. When I did a new best at the 1/8th mile, I was launching over 5K rpms, it still netted a 2.0 60ft. but it was a lower 2.0, plus the 1/8th mile that I go to is no where near the track prep that KCIR is.
Old 07-15-2008, 02:57 PM
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I did 13.6@103 on street tires last year.

since then I added
Cobra H/E
slicks
ttr engine/tranny mounts
drag bags
zzp header/downpipe
meth injection.

youll be surprised how much more it takes to get from mid 13s down to 12s
its not nearly as easy as going from 14 to 13.5
Old 07-15-2008, 03:09 PM
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Good luck hope you can attain that. Just for grins I may have to drive to KCIR and see it in person..


I abstained from the vote...
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Originally Posted by an0malous
I did 13.6@103 on street tires last year.

since then I added
Cobra H/E
slicks
ttr engine/tranny mounts
drag bags
zzp header/downpipe
meth injection.

youll be surprised how much more it takes to get from mid 13s down to 12s
its not nearly as easy as going from 14 to 13.5
I understand that it gets harder the faster you go. you picked up 3mph from adding meth, header/downpipe and a cobra h/e as your power mods. but you only picked up 3 tenths in the quarter. I thought you were having clutch issues?

solid motor/trans, S2 axles + hoosier QTPs, Drag bags.
launching at 3500, cutting 1.9s

that's from the other thread with clutch issues.

I'm not having clutch issues and I haven't hit a 1.9 yet. You don't think I can pull a 1.8 with drag bags on mine? which would ultimately result in a 12 sec slip if I can trap another 2-3mph.

I know the clutch issues you were having were ******* with you hard core. You should have definitely been in the 12's trapping 106mph.

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Old 07-15-2008, 03:16 PM
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remove rear n passenger seats and all trunk ****... so youre only adding drag bags header dp n area's tune? idk what conditions were like when you did the 13.6 but if conditions are great it is possible, id say
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adding drag bags, header, dp, upping the meth mix to 75/25, and a new tune by area47. It shouldn't be too hot outside cause it will be in october. I don't plan to take anything extra out of the interior unless I'm like boarder line 12's and a few extra shaved pounds would do it.

I'm starting to notice more and more NO voters. I'm just not feeling the love.

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Old 07-15-2008, 03:52 PM
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put this in perspective.

3k lb gsx eclipse
1.6 short time
13.0@103

the power isn't there sunshine.
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i bet you that eclipse had to **** into 4th though- ralli wont have to. and rally def. has way more power to the wheels than that eclipse gsx. im not saying he will def do it, im just sayin gthere is a lot of factors that are involved
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Originally Posted by Area47
put this in perspective.

3k lb gsx eclipse
1.6 short time
13.0@103

the power isn't there sunshine.
we'll see. we'll see. I hope to prove you wrong. You still didn't answer my question though. You gonna be there when I attempt it?

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i bet you that eclipse had to **** into 4th though- ralli wont have to. and rally def. has way more power to the wheels than that eclipse gsx. im not saying he will def do it, im just sayin gthere is a lot of factors that are involved
you have a few good pointers. One being the gearing, we'll see how that plays out, 2 being that there are other factors.

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Old 07-15-2008, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by restonSS
i bet you that eclipse had to **** into 4th though- ralli wont have to. and rally def. has way more power to the wheels than that eclipse gsx. im not saying he will def do it, im just sayin gthere is a lot of factors that are involved
actually he doesn't have more power than the gsx had.

ralli. i'll most likely be there
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well then how much power to the wheels did that gsx have? who drove it down the track?
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cool, it'll be fun. You can either watch me get as excited as a little school girl, or whine cause I didn't do it.
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Originally Posted by ralliartist
you gonna be there when I go to the track? would be nice if you were.

also, can't do much about the weight. I weigh 245lbs also.
lose 50 lbs, and get an intake and i will vote yes.
If you hit 12's you will need a PERFECT run. good luck man!
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Originally Posted by restonSS
well then how much power to the wheels did that gsx have? who drove it down the track?
250 awhp on pump gas.
403 awhp on c16

this was back in 2001.

it was my car.
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holy crap! something doesnt match up though. how did you have 250 awhp and only run a 13 flat? sti's run in the high 12's with 250 awhp (lightly modded or just tuned). So much props to the TUNE on the c16 race gas. i truly am baffled that you picked up 150 awhp with just c16 and a tune. thanks amazing in itself.
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I personally think your gonna need more than a header/dp to shave that much more time off. I think you'll be low 13's.


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