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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by MatrixMotorsports
your modding theories are the gayest i have ever seen....
your only hope is that area gives yo ua sexy tune.... and if so, then its he, and not you who should receive the credit.
Well, I think it is great to see a somewhat different theory about how to go faster.... and lots of members here agree that the supporting cooling mods are just as important as other "go fast" mods

As for Area's tune, he is not the one driving the car.....but he should get some credit though if the goal is reached...that is why I said this could be an epic event for all Cobalt owners....anybody that reads these forums will mostly agree that Area has added much to this forum and is probably respected...maybe not always liked......but some of us might be a little jealous of his skills with the Cobalt.....

I think this is a great goal to strive for.....I say congrats even if you fall a little short. The day I get to take my car to a track will be epic enough for me......but then other goals will need to be set.......
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 05:18 PM
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thanks for the comments stangthang. I agree that area has brought much to the forum. I only hope I have done the same, just with cooling instead of cams and tuning and such. Trust me, I really want to make a good video out of the track day and if I can find someone to edit the vids good enough (I'll email everything to ya if anyone wants to volunteer), then I'll be sure to have shoutouts to the companies and people that have helped to achieve such a landscape time for such minimal mods. To break a 12 on a cobalt ss/sc with no pulley and not opening up the engine, would say a lot about our cars and the strides we are taking.

Originally Posted by lsjwannabe
Bring a pulley to the track
if area is going to be there, I just may. He said he would, but I don't want to bring one, and then not have a good tuner there to make on the spot adjustments from adding a pulley.

Then again, if I bring one, I may be tempted to put it on, so we'll see. I probably won't even buy one though so the temptation won't be there.

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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 05:51 PM
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i don't care if im liked or not. im not running for the high school class president in a race of popularity. i know what works and what doesn't.

i can only do so much. i know for a fact there is more left in that car because the file you have is based off a very old meth file i started on last year before i made real power. sheek wanted a base map. well, thats what he got.

if you're running a stock pulley, i would assume you're in the mood to pull the blower. im not however. if you have a gm hub. i have pullies.
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
i don't care if im liked or not. im not running for the high school class president in a race of popularity. i know what works and what doesn't.

i can only do so much. i know for a fact there is more left in that car because the file you have is based off a very old meth file i started on last year before i made real power. sheek wanted a base map. well, thats what he got.

if you're running a stock pulley, i would assume you're in the mood to pull the blower. im not however. if you have a gm hub. i have pullies.
we'll see, I'm still not sure I'm ready for a pulley. I have a lot of research to do before just jumping on a pulley.

I really wish I would have had you tune my car in the first place. But I'll still be running this tune when I come down there. So at least you will know where to go with it. Hopefully we'll both be surprised at the power pick up.
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 06:06 PM
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No, power just isn't there.
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ralliartist
ok, check yourself fool. I never said that my ways of modding were WAY better than everyone elses. I am only implying, that everyone with supercharged cobalts should buy cooling mods first, as they support the car for future mods, like pullies and what not. If you just add a pulley, the temps get crazy high, and even though you may make some more hp/tq, the heat will bring you back down. With our LONG ASS gearing, you really do need to rev this car out a little bit to get any benefits.

AS for you thinking that the cooling mods take the supercharger past optimal temps, your an idiot. With all the cooling mods I'm adding, I'm making the supercharger more efficient. You can CLEARLY see this with my trap speed increases.

And what the **** do you mean only noobs care about their quarter mile times. That's like what everyone wants that drag races, low times. The way I see it, if you trap 130mph, and run 13's, then you suck at driving and are probably a noob at drag racing.

Also, what the **** do you mean area should get all the credit cause he will give me an AWESOME TUNE if I break 12's. I think I'm the one BUYING the mods and tune for my car and I'm the one DRIVING the car down the track. Of course, I'll give area props for giving me the tune, but I still PAID for it.

Clearly, your a troll, and trolls are annoying. So I ask you to keep any more ridiculous posts out of my thread. You can post why you don't think I'll hit a 12, but there is no reason for you to come out like you did and say everything I've done is bullshit. I've gained quite a bit of power from the way I've been modding, more than just throwing a pulley on. And I've beaten quite a few pullied cobalts in omaha too. The reason I've beaten the pullied cobalts is a combination of driving and them over heating with those small ass pullies.



I say your DEAD WRONG. And I've already proved it, be prepared to be proved wrong again.


Are u kidding me? First off, you're modding your car, not you. Who cares if you run a 13.0 and 114mph, and some runs a 12.99 at 103mph. If your reasoning for modifications is to improves your vehicles speed and acceleration, then the trap speed is your true measuring tool.

Secondly, ive been on this site for years, and ever since you got the cobalt you've been making these threads spewing your theories that excessive cooling mods is the best way to go. Im not here to deny cooling mods help, hell i was 3rd or 4th on this site to use methanol and a 2.6. With JUST methanol on the 2.6 and a crazy tune i saw NO heat issues, the car ran slightly cooler then it did stock. A new heat exchanger was in the plans but i never did it. However, i was running 290 whp at the time, oh and those numbers are proven, there were 3 of us, around the same time, with the same mods, pushing the 290 whp range. However, to tell someone with a STOCK pulley, stock everything, with an efficient watercooler supercharger requires all this money to be spent first on cooling mods is stupid.

Youve spend like 800$ on cooling mods, and only see what 230 whp MAYBE? When for that 800$ most could be in th 250 range, and not in danger of overheating or ruining anything. Thats a failure.

Lastly, im not a troll, i was here long before you, and still remember when u came on here with ur white ralliart. Your thread asked for the truth, and im not here to suck on your ***** like most on short bus, so i gave u the truth. You say uve beat alot of cobalts with heat issues? lol, if i still had my redline i would demolish you.

Please tell me how your car is faster, youve ran 13.6 and 100, i ran 14.2 at 108

cause i had street tires on a cold night, and hadnt raced at a track before makes your car faster? not even close bro.

sorry.
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 08:15 PM
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Yah it might be a good idea to get that stock press-on pulley off and replace it with the Stage 2 hub, and then you can bolt on a stock size pulley. That way you can change it in 5 minutes if you feel the need.
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MatrixMotorsports

Please tell me how your car is faster, youve ran 13.6 and 100, i ran 14.2 at 108

cause i had street tires on a cold night, and hadnt raced at a track before makes your car faster? not even close bro.

sorry.
Yes, that makes his car faster.

He went from point A to point B .6 tenths faster than you did.

Trap speed proves very little. Like i said before, its manipulated by people such as yourself who run on shitty tires and blow them off the first half of the track, and then quickly make up some of the difference in the 2nd half.

Why do you think most Supra's run their times at awfully high traps? Most of them fart around in the first part of the track not getting anywhere and then come on like a freight train the last half.
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 09:16 PM
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gotta give you props ralliartist since your a rally yellow ss..but on a stock pulley 13.6 is amazing man you must be a really good driver
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 09:18 PM
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hit a 1/4 track and we'll see

IMO you may be in the 13's but not 12's
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr_Slobalt
hit a 1/4 track and we'll see

IMO you may be in the 13's but not 12's
maybe you missed the part where he's already in the 13's...

ralli, you going to use that launch control with HPT you were talking about??
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 12:11 AM
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come to think of it once again, no, the power isnt their. u need a good 20whp maybe 30
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 12:32 AM
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ummmmmmmm how about we stop trying to see who's internet stick is bigger and just take it to the track and see where your at. I vote for ultra low 13s
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by MatrixMotorsports
Are u kidding me? First off, you're modding your car, not you. Who cares if you run a 13.0 and 114mph, and some runs a 12.99 at 103mph. If your reasoning for modifications is to improves your vehicles speed and acceleration, then the trap speed is your true measuring tool.

Secondly, ive been on this site for years, and ever since you got the cobalt you've been making these threads spewing your theories that excessive cooling mods is the best way to go. Im not here to deny cooling mods help, hell i was 3rd or 4th on this site to use methanol and a 2.6. With JUST methanol on the 2.6 and a crazy tune i saw NO heat issues, the car ran slightly cooler then it did stock. A new heat exchanger was in the plans but i never did it. However, i was running 290 whp at the time, oh and those numbers are proven, there were 3 of us, around the same time, with the same mods, pushing the 290 whp range. However, to tell someone with a STOCK pulley, stock everything, with an efficient watercooler supercharger requires all this money to be spent first on cooling mods is stupid.

Youve spend like 800$ on cooling mods, and only see what 230 whp MAYBE? When for that 800$ most could be in th 250 range, and not in danger of overheating or ruining anything. Thats a failure.

Lastly, im not a troll, i was here long before you, and still remember when u came on here with ur white ralliart. Your thread asked for the truth, and im not here to suck on your ***** like most on short bus, so i gave u the truth. You say uve beat alot of cobalts with heat issues? lol, if i still had my redline i would demolish you.

Please tell me how your car is faster, youve ran 13.6 and 100, i ran 14.2 at 108

cause i had street tires on a cold night, and hadnt raced at a track before makes your car faster? not even close bro.

sorry.
I spent 400 on cooling mods. 200 for the meth kit, 200 for the h/e. The other 400 I spent was the rims and slicks. So you fail. And like BolognaPony said, I've already proven I'm faster. Yea, I may not make quite as much power, but I went 13.6 to your 14.2, and I did it with one pass. Definitely would have been faster.

also, considering area's recent dyno's and such, you must have been on one happy dyno. and your 14.2@108 is definitely EPIC FAIL. LOL. You couldn't drive for **** could you? Damn. I would have been embarrased to still be a 14sec car with as many mods as you had. I doubt you would DEMOLISH me with your redline also. I've already beat up on a 2.6 pullied car in omaha, probably wouldn't be too hard to beat you as well. 14sec trapping 108, LOL.
Originally Posted by BolognaPony
Yes, that makes his car faster.

He went from point A to point B .6 tenths faster than you did.

Trap speed proves very little. Like i said before, its manipulated by people such as yourself who run on shitty tires and blow them off the first half of the track, and then quickly make up some of the difference in the 2nd half.

Why do you think most Supra's run their times at awfully high traps? Most of them fart around in the first part of the track not getting anywhere and then come on like a freight train the last half.
I have to say, you've really impressed me with the last few posts you've made. I'm gonna change my tune about you. Sorry for calling you a troll. It's still too bad you drive a mustang. LOL.

Originally Posted by Mr_Slobalt
hit a 1/4 track and we'll see

IMO you may be in the 13's but not 12's
yea, I'm already a mid 13sec car.

Originally Posted by ecotecon18s
maybe you missed the part where he's already in the 13's...

ralli, you going to use that launch control with HPT you were talking about??
I'm gonna test it out at the local 1/8th mile first before I go to KCIR with it. If it works, great, if it don't, then I'll just launch really high.

Originally Posted by Dunkinuts
ummmmmmmm how about we stop trying to see who's internet stick is bigger and just take it to the track and see where your at. I vote for ultra low 13s
read the first post. I made this thread cause I'm deployed and kind of bored and just wanted to get everyone's CLEAN opinion. I'll hit the track when I get back in October.

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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 02:26 PM
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Good luck with hitting this, but major props if you do.
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BolognaPony
Yes, that makes his car faster.

He went from point A to point B .6 tenths faster than you did.

Trap speed proves very little. Like i said before, its manipulated by people such as yourself who run on shitty tires and blow them off the first half of the track, and then quickly make up some of the difference in the 2nd half.

Why do you think most Supra's run their times at awfully high traps? Most of them fart around in the first part of the track not getting anywhere and then come on like a freight train the last half.
i didn't spin a bit when i trapped 109.

::shrugs::
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 03:32 PM
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must be nice lol
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 03:40 PM
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aggressive boost control


i was wot 5ft out of the gate
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 03:42 PM
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what was your et?
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 03:44 PM
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he ran a 13.3@109
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BolognaPony
what was your et?
what corn boy said

13.3@109
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 03:54 PM
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corn boy? haha. I just live there, I'm from south carolina. **** the huskers.
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 04:00 PM
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As much as I would like to see you do it, I honestly don't think your going to hit it with those mods. I will be pleasantly shocked if you do, but I just can't see it happening. Of course, major driver mod will play a big part in it if you do manage to just touch 12s.
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
aggressive boost control


i was wot 5ft out of the gate
me to, doesn't do **** even on 235's at half throttle
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 04:42 PM
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im on oem pirelli's


dropped the clutch at 2400 too

60ft suffered a bit though
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