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Will Ralliartist Break 12's?

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Old 07-17-2008, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
im on oem pirelli's


dropped the clutch at 2400 too

60ft suffered a bit though
i can't hit better than a 2.3, but then and agian my home tracks idea of prep is clearing dirt off the lanes, i don't think they have been introduced to vht.
Old 07-17-2008, 04:46 PM
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i run on wed night. they don't prep the track on wed. i usually do consistant 2.20's all night long. if i got less aggressive with the boost control, i could drop the 60ft, but the clutch would suffer
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Originally Posted by Area47
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i run on wed night. they don't prep the track on wed. i usually do consistant 2.20's all night long. if i got less aggressive with the boost control, i could drop the 60ft, but the clutch would suffer
Im usually out on saturday, never really crowded becuase its pretty bad, no prep, no boards, no emt, no inspection. $25 run all day from 12~6 and you could honestly run 50 times
Old 07-17-2008, 04:50 PM
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Not to thread jack but can you point me in the direction of the drag bags you purchased?
Old 07-17-2008, 04:51 PM
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jegs or summit sells them just search drag bags on the website
Old 07-17-2008, 05:08 PM
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Old 07-17-2008, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
aggressive boost control


i was wot 5ft out of the gate

by the way, here is a big reason why my et's are so low. No boost/tq limiting here. I use all the power I got dumping over 5Krpms right off the line. Most people are throttling it or electronically controlling all the power right off the line. I'm full throttle as soon as the light goes green.
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Originally Posted by ralliartist
by the way, here is a big reason why my et's are so low. No boost/tq limiting here. I use all the power I got dumping over 5Krpms right off the line. Most people are throttling it or electronically controlling all the power right off the line. I'm full throttle as soon as the light goes green.
You also have a lot less power than most people, let alone the tread.

When I had my 2.5 ring on, I did better with full boost in all gears than I did with limiting 1st.
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Originally Posted by WSFrazier
You also have a lot less power than most people, let alone the tread.
this is true, but the car still launches extremely hard.
Old 07-17-2008, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
what corn boy said

13.3@109
13.3 @ 109 shows a mcuh mroe accurate MPH than 14.2@108
Old 07-17-2008, 06:25 PM
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ok no offense ralliart, i can see that cooling mods are great for the car and everything, you said you gained quite a bit of power off of them but you are only 222whp. a $50 pulley could put you past 222whp and youve spent quite a bit on cooling mods ONLY to get you to that point
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there's a reason I haven't gotten a pulley yet. I'm still trying to figure out the perfect pulley for me, the one that won't overspin the blower and cause too much heat. Plus, if you noticed all the people posting and the amount of people that voted NO, I obviously got something to prove now.
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Originally Posted by BolognaPony
13.3 @ 109 shows a mcuh mroe accurate MPH than 14.2@108
yulp!
hopefully when i go back it will break 110 and be in the 12's
Old 07-17-2008, 06:42 PM
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would be cool if there were 2 12sec balt's at KCIR come October!
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Are you going to run with a tune on 93, or tuned for race gas?

Something I found at the dyno with my car was wheel weight makes a big difference in WHP.

back in the winter (very cold temps, inflated dyno #'s) I did dyno runs on my 16" alum wheels for winter (17.5 lbs), and then switched to the stock wheel/tire and did a comparison.

266WHP with the winters, 251 with the OEM 18's.

The 15hp difference wasn't just at the peek either, it was pretty consistent throughout the whole powerband.

If your drag wheels aren't light, you could pick up some more power there.

This is another reason that people with 16" drag wheels/tires do so much better, not only is their traction better, but they pickup more WHP since the heavy wheels aren't robbing it.

Ralli, I wish you luck, but unless you get a kickass tune on race gas (even with the 75/25 meth mix) and a perfect run, I just don't see 12's, close to it, but probably not there.

Kevin
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Originally Posted by OntarioKev
Are you going to run with a tune on 93, or tuned for race gas?

Something I found at the dyno with my car was wheel weight makes a big difference in WHP.

back in the winter (very cold temps, inflated dyno #'s) I did dyno runs on my 16" alum wheels for winter (17.5 lbs), and then switched to the stock wheel/tire and did a comparison.

266WHP with the winters, 251 with the OEM 18's.

The 15hp difference wasn't just at the peek either, it was pretty consistent throughout the whole powerband.

If your drag wheels aren't light, you could pick up some more power there.

This is another reason that people with 16" drag wheels/tires do so much better, not only is their traction better, but they pickup more WHP since the heavy wheels aren't robbing it.

Ralli, I wish you luck, but unless you get a kickass tune on race gas (even with the 75/25 meth mix) and a perfect run, I just don't see 12's, close to it, but probably not there.

Kevin
well thats pretty much a given. rotating mass is pretty much a HP killer. did you take into account the overall tire height as well? how tall are your winter tires
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Originally Posted by Area47
yulp!
hopefully when i go back it will break 110 and be in the 12's
16's and m/t will do the trick
Old 07-22-2008, 08:21 PM
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my 16" drag wheels are definitely lighter than stock, and I'm getting tuned on 89 octane pump gas with my meth. I can run as much timing as needed though, so race gas isn't gonna do much for me.
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It does for me
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I voted yes because I'd love to see it, your cooling approach is something different that seems to be working. I'm sure your driver mod helps too.
Best of luck to you Ralli.
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I hope you hit it, beacuse then it'll just set the bar even higher for what is possible with the stock s/c and no nitrous. When you crack 12's on a stock pulley and no weight( if you dont this year I'm sure you will with killer chiller and the new intake manifold like you said), it wont seem like as much of a big deal that people hit high 12's on 2.5's. I just cant wait to see what your gonna hit with a smaller pulley, I dont you'd go as low as a 2.5 or 2.6, but maybe a 2.7 or 2.8 and 60's? It'd be pretty sweet to see a car with a 2.7 and 60's running low to mid 12's,lol.
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60 foot time is key. Rotational mass is also huge. Hope you don't break any axles... Unfortunately I still have to say no. Low 13's but not into the 12's.
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thanks for all the comments guys.

lots of good knowledge about drag racing in this thread.

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Old 07-23-2008, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
yulp!
hopefully when i go back it will break 110 and be in the 12's
I would def. love to see this out of your car on streets, Area...would def. be nice to hear...


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