so how does somebody go about with traction with these numbers?

 

shouldn't have a problem with traction with that power curve lol. reminds me of my old 62mm setup

 

lol **** that power curve..... not even worth it

 

I'm sure the car is nice but that late power won't be fun. Turbo is not properly sized for his car.

Great numbers though for numbers sake.

 

4.45 trans will take care of a good part of it. but the only way to keep pulling is to be able to nls

 

this was on a break in tune i believe. on top of that he's already done more since that. consisting of a 2.1L block now. Last I spoke with him at CED they were thinking close to 700ish.

 

That is just amazing in numbers. I do have to say though that the cams don't do much for fuel 10-12% max as per Matt. Logging with Term we haven't seen a WOW factor with the cams. In the midrange it helped.

What he needs to do is get a turbo that flow exactly half of the turbo he has on now and compound it, no more lag and Torq will bump up, doneskees.

 

Its hard to say who makes more power...He used c16 correct and where im from you cant run that on the streets ryan runs e85 in his lnf and made 605 so id love to see this car tuned on e85 and get some numbers...IMO i think ryans car would beat this since his power band is more useful and comes on earilier but none said the least seems like a nice car but the power band to me seems quite small cause a buddies 2.0 buschur block evo with a built head and 6262 spools at around 5500-5800 so ya. Like i said nice power none the least

 

My friend posted this on my FB a while ago and he had been talking to the guy I guess. Said he seems like a nice guy. Impressive numbers. He was told the numbers posted were on 35lbs.

 

wuts up rockstar hows the life treating you? there are cams in the car, and there's basically no snow in El paso Texas, from wut we spoke about he's not running that tune for the street. He has a more street-able one on the car right now but im assuming when he gets race fuel he'll swap tunes for track use.

 

I actually missed that in the second post. All I read in the first post was "no fueling mods" so it sorta stuck with me I guess.. lol

Yeah that's kind of what I was thinking, but at the same time the fact that the turbo is so laggy actually seems to really be helping him with the fueling. Most LNF's running a quick spooling turbo (particularly on some sort of an ethanol blend) tend to have the most fueling issues down low where there's alot more torque being made a lot sooner where the cam just isnt spinning enough rpm to maintain high enough pressure for the pump to keep up. With him running c16 on an oober big turbo that doesn't reach full spool until 5500-6000rpm, he has the benefit of using a ton less fuel down low which probably gives the fuel system enough time to take a nap before there's any real strain for pressure. Plus even if he leans out a bit, the c16 has a high enough resistance to knock to help protect the engine from any detonation

I don't know, it's still a butt ton of power for a mildly "upgraded" fuel mod, but there is definitely no disputing the fact that he made the power so I guess ultimately there's really no debate to be made here on if he did it or not.... lol

 

How long do your tires last? I upgraded to 300 HP and I can't keep the tires from spinning. Do you run super sticky slicks?

 

That dyno might not be a loaded dyno, making the curve look like that, also falsifing the numbers a bit. The s259et and the 6262 are very similar in size actually. And the 6262 will actually spool a bit quicker than the 259 from what I have seen. Here is a video I found on youtube, you tell me if it sounds like a 600+ hp cobalt, unless its a recirc wastegate on it. I tried to get a mod list but no one will reply on there lol so disregard the comments.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQidve9agPg

 

i dnt see why mike wouldnt giv u a mod list, i kno all the mods first hand he must have his reasons, but thats the car.

 

He told my friend the mod list and he forwarded it to me, but I deleted the text about a week ago. I will see if he can resend it!

 

BUT to answer the question of the title of this thread : cmiller is the fastest LNF

Why be dyno queen if you can't put power down

 

Nice numbers would like to see how they compare on a mustang dyno.

 

lol i brought his old turbo so does that make me the fastest?

i think he did the pull to see where his car would stand at, but again its bout putting it down im pretty sure he will be hitting the tracc soon.

 

cant compare it to zzp really. shop car. their numbers are impressive tho

 

I'm sure this car is putting down some good power, but I would be curious to see what correction factor is being used. It seems to take an awful long time to get to 110 in the 570whp video. With their dyno being at about a mile of elevation, I'm guessing we would see the typical 1.2 or higher correction factor. In other words, if the car is actually putting down 475whp, the correction factor can bump it up to 575 for people dynoing in the mountains. It would explain the ability to run this power without much for fuel system mods, as well as the car simply not acellerating very quickly on the dyno, or spinning the tires.

As far as our fuel pump lobe cams- they are good for 20% more fuel flow. Of course this is more important on smaller to mid sized turbos that need the flow down low. The higher the rpm you run at, the less you need pump mods and the more you need larger injectors. We push the injectors a little further by running more pressure at high rpms with big turbos.

 

^^ not my car so im not sure i can ask next time we talk though, lot of heart went into that car, and in january I'll be shipping my heart to shane at ZZP for my motor, tranny and turbo swap..(giggles inside)

 

Matt quit being humble lol. it says 705 right there in your signature. and correct me if i'm wrong, but everything on your car is sold by ZZP yeah?

i hate when people say "its a shop car, doesn't count". yeah, a car owned by a guy who works at the shop and everything thats on there is sold publicly.

 

Lol, I'm not trying to compete with customers. I do have the advantage of making several hundred dyno pulls with my car testing out a whole bunch of different parts. The latest setup with the 6 speed put down 710 sae on E85/110 through the full exhaust. What do you think will break if I run it at the track?

 

Only one way to find out lol. Turn it down to a good 600 and run some 10.50's at over 140 lol.

 

It sucks to have 9 second power and feel far, far away from being able to run 9s in this car.