Water doesn't burn and make power make power either.. you can run straight water through the motor instead of gasoline ;-).. doesnt mean that just because it doesn't labor knock, that it's making power ..

 

you make it sound as if burning meth in addition to gasoline in and of itself adds power.

 

i'm saying you can convert a car to methanol.. and run it.. because its a burnable fuel... water is not a burnable fuel.. (for an internal combustion engine..lol).. just because water doesn't knock.. doesn't mean putting it in there is helping make power.. (if you ignore the cooling properties)

 

It's give and take

 

Anyone have a link to that aftermarket header thread that tested a few different headers on the dyno?

I just searched on css and rlf.... can't seem to find it

 

but thats the whole point. thats like saying you wont make more power on racing fuel if you ignore the octane properties....

 

The whole point of saying water has infinite octane, was to point out that it cools the charge?

I <3 the internet

 

no, the whole point of injecting water is to cool the charge/chamber allowing more timing. So saying "it doesnt help make power if you ignore its cooling properties" is like saying "gasoline doesnt make power if you ignore its combustion

 

I'm not arguing against water injection.. I've run methanol/water injection for 2 years... anything from straight water to 80/20 mixes.. I was going back to this discussion..


And pointing out that the fact that water has infinite octane, does not mean that the more you pump in there, the better..

I am fully aware that water cools the charge and of the benefits that brings... I was just going back to the conversation about waters octane rating..

 

sub 120 iat2s in 3rd ladies n gentlemen... heat soak has left the building!

on a serious note tho

the whole reason I run a greater water mixture is because it allows me to advance spark as I please.

 

I hate you

 

i knew you knew that already, which is why i was so damn confused why you would say what you were saying. lol

 

i guess i shoulda quoted the original post when i replied since it was like 3 pages back..

 

I has hdr... Welding up the dp next wednesday

Returning to the dyne before Jan 10th hopefully

 

&&&&&& Im still following this thread....

Things are getting intresting...

Good Luck Sir !

 

Think by swapping to this new header I'll hit your tvs e-85 whp #?

 

Let me know when you snag up some E85 for testing and need to use those 80's

 

Unless the gas station down the street starts pumping e-85... never mang

though I'll need those 80s for something else soon possibly

 

I got them just sitting in my toolbox right now lol. I took a video for you today of me breaking the tires loose in 3rd from like 30!........in the snow In the vid im like "see steve I told you Id break 3rd loose first!" " The sound quility is **** tho

 

you fail man!!!

I want hit up the snow.......... local mtns just got dumped on all week long.

 

Cant help that there is snow here!!! lol

 

It won't hurt to try.

 

...i can chirp the 2-3 shift.? does that count? haha

 

I suppose lol! Last night I drove my friends wrx and I was breaking them loose in 4th!....again, in the snow all 270whp of it lol

 

Only one way to find out!