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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 10:00 PM
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Cams and Warranty

I just got my stage 2 cams. I was wondering if i install them it will void the warranty but a buddy of mine said it's a law that they would have to prove that that part caused the problem if i would take it to the dealer to get fixed? Is this possibly true.?

(Nick i'm not doubting your wrong just seeing what others say)
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 10:09 PM
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yup its a law,

but the question is, do you have the money, the time, and the want, to fight a court battle?
because i doubt there are many dealerships who would even look at you with aftermarket internal work.
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 10:15 PM
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Ive always gone with the train of though " if you have to ask, then yes"

But seriously cams? uhh yea theyll def. try to void warrenty. Comeon, if they try an void for intakes and exhaust, internals are definatley a no-no.
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 10:22 PM
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Yeah but it shouldn't void the warranty unless the cams caused a problem that they would need to fix. Most likely the cams wont cause a problem at all but im just like trying to figure this out if they could do it and what not
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 10:24 PM
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Yeah but it shouldn't void the warranty unless the cams caused a problem that they would need to fix. Most likely the cams wont cause a problem at all but im just like trying to figure this out if they could do it and what not

WoW WTF just happened?

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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 10:47 PM
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if anything happens to your motor or tranny, your on your own, if your light switch goes, you should be okay.
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MP Cobalt
Yeah but it shouldn't void the warranty unless the cams caused a problem that they would need to fix. Most likely the cams wont cause a problem at all but im just like trying to figure this out if they could do it and what not

WoW WTF just happened?
your missing the point.
you can stand there and spout that law all day if you want, but the dealership is 99% sure to tell you to go **** yourself, expecting powertrain warranty with an aftermarket cam.

so as i said, I hope you have the time and money to afford a lawyer and a court battle, because saying "magnusson moss" to the dealership, doesnt work like saying "abracadabra"
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 11:04 PM
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99% of dealerships won't no you have them unless you tell them or they put them in for you.
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 12:07 AM
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a decently trained tech im sure would notice a diffrent set of cams . correct me if im wrong
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 12:23 AM
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Ha ha , CAM's ? Are you kidding? The tuning for cam's would void the powertrain warranty to start with, never mind the cam's themselves .
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 12:30 AM
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agreed..
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by DebadgedBALT77
a decently trained tech im sure would notice a diffrent set of cams . correct me if im wrong
LOL yeah gm vs forged cams .. just a little different look to them . depends on what goes wrong . You blow the motor I would blame it on your cam dude ..
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by DebadgedBALT77
a decently trained tech im sure would notice a diffrent set of cams . correct me if im wrong
Yea because you can tell the misfire while the cars running.

Originally Posted by BowTieTillIdie
LOL yeah gm vs forged cams .. just a little different look to them . depends on what goes wrong . You blow the motor I would blame it on your cam dude ..
Yeah i know that but the cams will not blow the motor.

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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 11:05 AM
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Yeah i know that but the cams will not blow the motor.
You're looking at this WAY too simplistically. There are other factors involved.

1) You had to take apart the motor to shove the cams in there in the first place. That right there opens up a whole WORLD of opportunity to blame improper assembly on your part.

2) There's the tuning. You've altered the factory tune and therefore they can look at the fact that you're running the car outside the parameters that GM designed it for.

3) The LAST thing they'd need to do is blame the cams themselves. By simply doing the work and tuning to install the cams and run them, you've given them MORE than enough to deny any sort of powertrain warranty claim.

If you were to run in crying "Magnuson Moss", I don't think even Johnny Cochorane raised from the dead and blessed by Jesus himself would be able to win that case for you.

If warranty means that much to you - don't do major modifications to your car. Simple as that.
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by MP Cobalt
Yea because you can tell the misfire while the cars running.



Yeah i know that but the cams will not blow the motor.
The cams most likely won't blow the motor, but the tune sure as hell could, If your motor blows they will check everything including tune. If you like your warranty don't do cams. Just bite the bullet and take a chance your motor won't blow.
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 11:16 AM
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You're looking at this WAY too simplistically. There are other factors involved.

1) You had to take apart the motor to shove the cams in there in the first place. That right there opens up a whole WORLD of opportunity to blame improper assembly on your part.

2) There's the tuning. You've altered the factory tune and therefore they can look at the fact that you're running the car outside the parameters that GM designed it for.

3) The LAST thing they'd need to do is blame the cams themselves. By simply doing the work and tuning to install the cams and run them, you've given them MORE than enough to deny any sort of powertrain warranty claim.

If you were to run in crying "Magnuson Moss", I don't think even Johnny Cochorane raised from the dead and blessed by Jesus himself would be able to win that case for you.

If warranty means that much to you - don't do major modifications to your car. Simple as that.
bodda-bing bodda-bam...

the service manager i use would laugh at you and walk away and "go to lunch" til you left in your fit of rage b/c you took your head apart and now it broke....
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 11:21 AM
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just wait till u hit 30K then do it, my car just hit that so now that i dont have a warrenty im going to start doing some internals.
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 11:28 AM
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Look at this way, warrenty or not...either way if something breaks its comming out of your pocket. So i say go for it.
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 01:11 PM
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yea, by all means im not telling you not to do the cam install, itd be sweet. but 99% of the service managers would laugh at you if you thought itd be covered under warrenty if something went wrong.
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by originaladrian
just wait till u hit 30K then do it, my car just hit that so now that i dont have a warrenty im going to start doing some internals.
why dont you have a warranty? Even the 05-06 SS's have a 60K powertrain warranty nevermind the 100k for 07's +
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 01:42 PM
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Yeah, putting in aftermarket cams is definately going to void any engine warranty. Transmission is probably ok, since even though you will have more power you won't be stressing the transmission too much. Anything engine related will definately be an instant void when they see those cams.
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by rukkee
why dont you have a warranty? Even the 05-06 SS's have a 60K powertrain warranty nevermind the 100k for 07's +
mine is 30 k, its an 06 bought in 05
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by originaladrian
mine is 30 k, its an 06 bought in 05
Unless you were screwed over by the dealer and bought it used so they "sold" you some sort of warranty, you are 100% incorrect.

The 05/early 06 warranty is as follows:

3 years/36k - Bumper to bumper
5 years/60k - Powertrain (engine and transmission)

So you're not even halfway into your powertrain warranty.
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by alleycat58
Unless you were screwed over by the dealer and bought it used so they "sold" you some sort of warranty, you are 100% incorrect.

The 05/early 06 warranty is as follows:

3 years/36k - Bumper to bumper
5 years/60k - Powertrain (engine and transmission)

So you're not even halfway into your powertrain warranty.
interesting... this is honestly new info for me... gona go dig up my paperwork. and look
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by originaladrian
interesting... this is honestly new info for me... gona go dig up my paperwork. and look
It's online. If it was purchased in 05, it has the 36k/60k. I know they retroactively honored the 36k/100k for some people who bought within like a month of the announcement - but that only applies if it was purchased in 06.
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