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Old Dec 17, 2008 | 04:11 AM
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I think you will pay the same weather you pay it off in 3 months or 72, Could be wrong though...
Naw the sooner u pay it off the less interest you will pay.
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Old Dec 17, 2008 | 07:29 PM
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Ok, then I guess the last question is...how long do you think it will last. Well maintained, no ice or snow or salt in florida. Its been extinct for a while. Do you think it can reach 150k miles? or 200k? Or do you think these cars are done after 100k?

This is for those who have em I guess. I have the 06 LS that just reached 62k miles and only problem I have had was a leaky heater core so far. I only owe 5k, and no payments due till Feb 2010...however if I wait im just paying the difference in the trade off. I drive roughly 20k miles a year...25 to work 25 to school the other way, so 100 3-4 days out of the week, but 90% highway.
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Old Dec 17, 2008 | 07:31 PM
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Eh id say somewhere between 100 and 150k IF you leave it stock and dont beat on it to much
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Old Dec 17, 2008 | 07:49 PM
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Rally's ride is a great buy.
He will move on his price, right Rally?..lol
I don't think you will find a better exemple out there for the mileage and $.
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Old Dec 17, 2008 | 08:13 PM
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Rally's ride is a great buy.
He will move on his price, right Rally?..lol
I don't think you will find a better exemple out there for the mileage and $.
And I would take it. But how long that could take is anyones guess. He wants to sell it, but before I can buy it, I have to sell mine. THere are lots on the lots and in craigs list that have less miles then mine selling for less then the dealership will give me.

So, I honestly dont think I can pull it off before someone grabs his.
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Old Dec 17, 2008 | 08:17 PM
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Sell yours first and see where you are at.
I have never driven the ss/tc but they will be a force to reckon with , especially when they are tuned and more mods become available.
I have put 24,000 miles on my ss/sc and it brings a smile to my ugly face all the time.
Either way, bang for buck factor is like the old Mustang LX 5.0s.....had one of those ,too, and I smiled all the time.
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Old Dec 19, 2008 | 05:55 AM
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I think selling it might be the best bet, maybe someone else can see the situation as I think I am seeing it...

Car: 06 LS @ 62,000 miles, Black and still looks more or less new. Had only 1 problem which was fixing the heater core. I drive it roughly 20,000 a year.

Owe: 5k left at payoff. No payments due till Feb 2010
Make 1600-1800 a month (depending on how my OT falls).

So basically if I try to keep it and pay it off over the next couple of months, and then try to trade in or sell it im just changing when I get the money right? If I pay 5k to pay it off or get it in trade..either way I wouldn't have been able to save more for a down payment trying to pay it off. Keeping it past 80k miles I think is going to depreciate it more then what I would eventually owe...and who knows what problems I could have with it before then costing more money., but I might be able to save up for a little bigger downpayment. Again I think I end up paying the same amount but I might get 30 dollars less a month as a payment.

Trade in offer was 5.5k on it, if I go back stock. That means I now have the 500 dollar leather seats to sell (they were made august of this year), the 3rd gen headlights with 6k hids, and brand new 15' rim tires that I might get 1k out of all of that. KBB value was 6.8k on my car as it is now...so thats just a 300 dollar difference. However if I sell it, then can't save anything for a bigger down payment and its the same situation then as above...

honestly I have no idea what the best route is..
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Old Dec 19, 2008 | 07:34 AM
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I personally don't think you should sell your car. Why do you need to sell your car? If there is nothing wrong with it, and you don't sound like the type of person who goes to the track, then keep your car. Speed isn't everything, and neither is horse power.

Just because you CAN get quicker from point A to point B doesn't mean you will. Think about cops looking at the ss/sc and the ss/tc more also.

If you keep your car you will have lower insurance payments, you will soon have your car paid off and you still get great gas mileage with a decent car.

I don't really see a reason posted as to why you need to upgrade to a higher end/faster sports car. Is it just something that you want or have always wanted?

Also, if you don't mind me asking, how old are you?
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Old Dec 19, 2008 | 08:20 AM
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I personally don't think you should sell your car. Why do you need to sell your car? If there is nothing wrong with it, and you don't sound like the type of person who goes to the track, then keep your car. Speed isn't everything, and neither is horse power.

Just because you CAN get quicker from point A to point B doesn't mean you will. Think about cops looking at the ss/sc and the ss/tc more also.

If you keep your car you will have lower insurance payments, you will soon have your car paid off and you still get great gas mileage with a decent car.

I don't really see a reason posted as to why you need to upgrade to a higher end/faster sports car. Is it just something that you want or have always wanted?

Also, if you don't mind me asking, how old are you?
No, I dont need too, but I always wanted something better. Im only 22, I bought the car almost exactly 2 years ago, was my first car I bought so I went with a cheaper one (was only 13k after Tax tag title). Now I want something better.

The only need I am worried about is how much more reliable its going to be. Will it last past 100k miles or is the money I saved not paying a car payment just going to go to repairs. Or will I end up paying it off and in the long run losing more money instead of trading. At about 100k miles I will start to need a new car, so im trying to figure out whats acutally better. How im kinda seeing is, I owe 5k i can get 5.5k in trade in + 1k say from tires/seats/headlights

Or pay it off, and in 1 year gain 3.6k from not paying payments. It might be worth only 2k then, so now because I paid it off I lose 1k on it and then would pay more in tax because its worth less. At the same time I also deplete whats in my bank account to pay it off. And if I just make the 300 payments, then no money I save up can be used for a payment, so now its worth 2k and I can't put a down payment of 3.6k on a new car. See my reasoning, or am I overlooking something simple?

Of course id rather have the new challenger r/t...but we can't just do what we want, sometimes need is better. I just dont know which is the case this time.
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Old Dec 19, 2008 | 10:20 AM
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i have been following this thread since post #1 i recently upgraded to a 06 ss/sc from a base stock 03 cavalier and i couldn't be happier! car is a young person's dream! well for me anyway! and it was hard on me to because the cavalier was my first car! and i put alot of money into it.. with mods etc.. and it had some sentimental value to me! yes i do miss it from time to time but i can always look at my ss/sc and it cheers me up!... but honestly i'd say go for rally's ss/sc only because it has all the mods that someone would want on a ss/sc for a killer price!!... and to tell you the truth (no offence turbo guys) i find the ss/sc more practical the turbo has basically everything the sc does except it's turbo charged and has recaro seats is the only difference i've seen but then again i've never drove one and i know there faster but rally's s/c is pretty much same as a stock ss/tc so for less i'd go for that!... they are real nice cars!! and trust me you'll get looks!! and woman will love it!!.... that's a bonus too... but either way u choose to go i'll be following the thread and i wish u the best of luck!
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Old Dec 19, 2008 | 11:50 PM
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i have been following this thread since post #1 i recently upgraded to a 06 ss/sc from a base stock 03 cavalier and i couldn't be happier! car is a young person's dream! well for me anyway! and it was hard on me to because the cavalier was my first car! and i put alot of money into it.. with mods etc.. and it had some sentimental value to me! yes i do miss it from time to time but i can always look at my ss/sc and it cheers me up!... but honestly i'd say go for rally's ss/sc only because it has all the mods that someone would want on a ss/sc for a killer price!!... and to tell you the truth (no offence turbo guys) i find the ss/sc more practical the turbo has basically everything the sc does except it's turbo charged and has recaro seats is the only difference i've seen but then again i've never drove one and i know there faster but rally's s/c is pretty much same as a stock ss/tc so for less i'd go for that!... they are real nice cars!! and trust me you'll get looks!! and woman will love it!!.... that's a bonus too... but either way u choose to go i'll be following the thread and i wish u the best of luck!
It was my personally first owned car, but I paid on 2 others in parents names since I drove them. One was a 94 camaro RS the other was a 2004 mustang. I like my car because it is mine, but damn if I dont want something better. Like I said the only thing holding me back is not knowing what to do lol. I am on the fence and dont see which way to go lol.

What do you guys think about buying a almost 5 year old car? Same car lot that I was looking at the SS/TC has a 2004 GTO with 18k miles. Besides being a little difficult to finance, any downside to it being a 2004?

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Old Dec 19, 2008 | 11:52 PM
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I have a LS right now thats all stock except the muffler. I only own 5000 and thats about what its worth. Has little over 60k miles. Since I see some SS's going for around 13-16k, I figure the jump isn't bad if the miles are low. My payments now are 300. Anyway I wasn't sure which was the best bet for me. No dealership around me has either of them, but when they come in stock im going to try a look.

I dont know too much about cars, but trying to figure some stuff out so dont flame me for being noobish. I know the T/C is quicker, however I do like the whine the S/C makes. Anyone give me some info about both, and how it compares to my crap LS?
if you turbo upgrade the lsj you will make more power than the lnf. just a proven fact so far. and if you turbo upgrade the tc... same result, less power than the turboed lsj
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 12:08 AM
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http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...ce=&cardist=24

that looks tempting too...which I knew about how much HP the SC put out. Though its the only one that says its a 2.0...wonder if its a misprint.
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Rydis
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...ce=&cardist=24

that looks tempting too...which I knew about how much HP the SC put out. Though its the only one that says its a 2.0...wonder if its a misprint.
I don't get what your asking but.....The Ion redline has the same motor as a cobalt SS/SC ,same HP.... anywhere from 205-215 Wheel HP . They are more rare than a SS and have the same performance. That looks like a good price on a low mileage RL.
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 08:03 AM
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I don't get what your asking but.....The Ion redline has the same motor as a cobalt SS/SC ,same HP.... anywhere from 205-215 Wheel HP . They are more rare than a SS and have the same performance. That looks like a good price on a low mileage RL.
what about the GTO 3 posts up?
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 09:01 AM
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One more thing I wanted to point out is that cars can be very reliable for a long time. I have driven and owned many a cars that have surpassed 175k miles and were great cars. If you maintain a car, it will last.

Another option you always have is to drive the hell out of your car until you can't drive it anymore. When you hit 250k miles and something finally goes, rebuild the motor. Just a couple grand for a fresh start and your up and running again.

Think about all the money you could save just by keeping your car, driving it tell it won't drive any more, and then rebuilding the motor.

Generally when cars like yours break, its little things like a head gasket that can easily be replaced. When cars aren't pushed to there limits and driven hard, and if they are well maintained they can last a really really long time. My buddy has a 5.0 302 fox body mustang that has over 300k miles on the original motor.
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 09:09 AM
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One more thing I wanted to point out is that cars can be very reliable for a long time. I have driven and owned many a cars that have surpassed 175k miles and were great cars. If you maintain a car, it will last.

Another option you always have is to drive the hell out of your car until you can't drive it anymore. When you hit 250k miles and something finally goes, rebuild the motor. Just a couple grand for a fresh start and your up and running again.

Think about all the money you could save just by keeping your car, driving it tell it won't drive any more, and then rebuilding the motor.

Generally when cars like yours break, its little things like a head gasket that can easily be replaced. When cars aren't pushed to there limits and driven hard, and if they are well maintained they can last a really really long time. My buddy has a 5.0 302 fox body mustang that has over 300k miles on the original motor.
Holy **** lol thats a FORD Hall o' famer right there lol.
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 09:14 AM
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lol not at all. There is a million mile ford truck that k&n bought .

edit: blah never mind thats a chevy.

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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 09:23 AM
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lol not at all. There is a million mile ford truck that k&n bought .

edit: blah never mind thats a chevy.
My uncle had a 77 ford explorer (back when they were trucks) had like 450,000 miles on it original motor and internals i helped him change the timing chain and the starter, it was too be my truck when i was old enough to drive but unfortunately it was parked in the carport and the house caught fire and it burnt up.
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 09:41 AM
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Wow, sorry to hear about that. Vehicles can really last a long time if you just maintain them!
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 09:45 AM
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Wow, sorry to hear about that. Vehicles can really last a long time if you just maintain them!
Yeah no doubt, my chevy lumina when i bought it had 205K mi on it. Made 15 trips to and from tenn no problems. When i finally got it back after my grandma passed away (i gave it to her so she had a car and bought another one) i sold it with 235K still ran strong.
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Nice, that's the way to do it. I think if you are going to buy a car, and you aren't going to get your money back for it, you should drive it until it won't drive any more!
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 10:31 AM
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Nice, that's the way to do it. I think if you are going to buy a car, and you aren't going to get your money back for it, you should drive it until it won't drive any more!
Yeah and like you said rebuild it make it run again especially if you have put time and money into it.
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Rydis
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...ce=&cardist=24

that looks tempting too...which I knew about how much HP the SC put out. Though its the only one that says its a 2.0...wonder if its a misprint.
i dynoed my ss/sc stock i got 216hp the ss/sc's are underrated and i guess the ss/tc's are overrated cause i hear they only dyno 230hp stock! with a ss/sc stage 2 you'll be at 230 no problem!... but you can also get more power out of the tc but you said your not looking for a power horse i believe you'd be more then happy with a ss/sc it's got pretty good power and it's constent! i think it will be plenty of power for ya!

and they are only a 2.0 liter

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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 07:25 PM
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Well, the GTO was sold literally minutes before I got there. Actually sat and talked with the guy who bought it. I had called in and scheduled a test drive, arrived an hour early and he had just signed the ill buy stuff. So, I bought the Victory Red 06 SS/SC. Used with 28k, but thats ok. Also got KBB private sell value for my car and a free upgrade to the 5/100k warranty (which from a 06 is only 2 years now)..but better then the 3/36k. APR% at 6.5% too yeah!

I might get pics tomorrow, but I need to learn how to drive manual before monday, I got work haha.
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