JL-KA

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Does this seem like a decent setup?
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=94572
What else do I need besides the compressor? Also along that note what size compressor do I need? Will a small 2 or 3 gallon do the trick?
Not looking to spend much over $100.

recklessnova

not going to happen with 100 bucks if you look at the guns you posted they need 12 cfm at a certian pressure to work correctly You will not find a cheap small compressor that will output that much cfm. small pancake compressors only put out 1 to 2 cfm at 90 psi. You would need at least a 3 hp 220v 60 gallon or so tank to properly run one of thoes guns for more then a second or two. You may be able to do it for around 5 to 600 if you are buying used.
Good luck

nicksredline

what are u going to spray? car's? small air compressor wont put out enough to atamize the paint ... will run and come out in a stream over a fine mist.

slowswap

Way out of your league I feel. Going to need a bigger compressor and I would get a good quality gone if you want a good paint job.

JL-KA

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I'm just looking for something for small jobs like trim pieces, lights, wheels...that kinda thing. So would this gun be more appropriate?
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=90977
It says it requires less air...5.9cfm @29psi.
So would a 1-1.5hp compressor work for that?
What size tank would I need?
and please none of this you don't know what you're doing stuff...I know I don't know what I'm talking about. That's why I'm asking.

slowswap

Honest to god truth. If you know how to paint using proper painting techniques, a spray can do the same exact job and come out just as good. My guess is, this will be your best bet.

JL-KA

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Been there done that. Thanks for the lack of help.

slowswap

We were taught in school on how to paint automotive quality finishes with a rattle can. If you can't achieve what you're looking for, you probably don't have the technique for a full size gun.

JL-KA

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Can you please leave the thread so someone helpful can answer my questions.

slowswap

Someone did answer you questions.

JL-KA

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They said the cfm required by the gun was higher than a small compressor could put out. I understood that and then did some more researching.
I then put up a link to a gun that required much less airflow(5.9cfm @ 29psi).
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=90977
I see from looking at compressors that this would require one in the 1-1.5hp range and asked what size tank would be necessary for small jobs like I would use it for.

recklessnova

ok hear goes round 2
The 2nd gun you found yes Could possibly work with asmaller compressor The problem is what happenes to wir when it is compressed.... its heated think supercharger( they have screw air compressors also. you would need a way to get the water out of the air. this can be done two ways disicant filters or coolingb the air down below the deu point so the water can turn to droplet form and be collected by a god water trap. The problem is to cool the water down you can either run a bunch of pipe atleast 75 ft and while the air is itraveling in the pipe it will cool enough to be trapped by most filters. You will still have some water in the air but it can all be caught or adsorbed by a disicant filter (thoes little bags that come in toolboxes electronics what have you that have beads in them) the beads adsorb the water. harbor freight has a small disicant filter that is 7.99 i use it after my refidgerated air dryer coalosicating filter and water/ regulator after that are two more 5 micron filters one with a regulator on it this line goes to my powder coating set up and I never have any water issues. another problem you will run into when trying to paint is the compressor will be running the whole time trying to keep up the pressure. this creats more heat than you at your budget will be able to get rid of. water will ruin any paint job you will try and do. What you are wanting to do is impossible without more money invested. However You may be able find a way around it. They do make a compressorless paint system that is simmilar to what you would use on house paint. You may be able to pick up a used one for around the same range of what you are looking at. If not I can think of no way you would be able to do any sort of decent job agian without a 220 compressor. do not pay attention to hp claims on air compressors look at cfm at 90 psi hp ratings are all jacked up and they basicaly lie to you. I have a true 5 hp air compressor that uses 22amps running 28 on start up it puts out 20 cfm at 90 psi If you see a 3 hp compressor that runs on 110 they are lying to you as it would draw about 15 amps on 220 to do make that hp.
http://www.cartechbooks.com/vstore/s...3&chapter=5126
might help you out a little I have painted one car with a 110 compressor and I know of a few others that have Its not that its not possible but what your talking about doing on your budget is not possible.
also that cartech site is kinda jacked up for info but a good run down
Josh

http://searchwarp.com/swa11901.htm

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=92126

I have that gun I use it now and then for little stuff I think that would be your best bet if you are using a small compressor and you woudnt have to mix up much paint.
But honestly its margnaly better then spray paint if you caint paint in the first place. Do you know how to paint? Im guessing no but this gun would be a good starter you would possibly be able top paint a whole wheel on one fill up.

Good luck and you might want to drop the attitude
Josh

JL-KA

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Thanks for the help and the attitude was directed at slowswap not you or anyone else.
In case you don't know yet slowswap is a little bit of a tool. He has a stuck up, better than everyone attitude in many of his posts. He proved that here yet again by hording his knowledge rather than sharing it, defeating the purpose of a forum.

cobalt_ss187

This is correct

JL-KA

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There's nothing wrong with my technique. I get good results. I'm not a pro by any means but I'm learning. The problem comes when the rattle cans deliver an inconsistent mist...random spurts of paint and whatnot.

cobalt_ss187

thats true you just need to make sure to keep the nozzle clean and you have to buy good cans/paint and your prep work must be perfect

JL-KA

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I get them from automotivetouchup.com
Never used anything elso so I have nothing to compare it to.
They color match Vic Red well though so that's why I use it. Usually go for a duplicolor clear coat.

slowbalt84

use a BB gun, hope this helps

Chase0224

i use the guns from harbor freight, im actually using it right now just waiting for clear to dry. I love them, they spray really nicely, and if it gets messed up big deal they are only like 15 bucks, i stock up on them.

JL-KA

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What kind of compressor are you using?

Chase0224

its a craftsman 25 gallon 125 PSI compressor. To be honest i dont know much about compressors to tell you if the smaller one would work (we have one) but i know that with my set up the guns work great.

JL-KA

iTrader: (4)

That helps. Thanks. How long are you able to run before you run out of air? Or has that not been a problem?

Chase0224

quite awhile, i was spraying for a couple hours last night, then when i disconnected the gun to let things dry it kicked on and refilled, then today i sprayed a few hours and disconnected to let stuff dry and it flipped on for a little bit. I say go for it, if it doesnt work its like only 15 bucks or atleast they are in the harbor freight store.