Pulstar Pulse Plugs!!!
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http://www.pulstarplug.com/howtheywork.html
look all that i am saying is that it makes sense. just read about them and watch the video.
look all that i am saying is that it makes sense. just read about them and watch the video.
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wow! like i said before someone will probably put these on and i just hope that they tell us how they did. and also like i said before if i'm wrong thats fine. i'll be the first to admit it. but as for the **** talking i mean its easy to sound like a hardass through the internet. but i mean come on. grow the **** up.
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Ok check it...
The stock system in your car is basically a power supply, a trigger, a coilpack (which stores a charge) and the plug. These pulse plugs are basically another, smaller coilpack in the system. More crap in the system mean higher delay when the computer triggers the plug to spark - period - no getting around it. You now have a coil right in the plug, that need to be charged to a certain voltage before it delivers its spark.
Get the people who make the plugs to get their butss on here and explain it fully - without using the terms "patented pulse circuit" or some bullshit like that. I want to see the hard math and an explanation in electrical engineering terms on how this works. Because so far - everything I see says that it just delays the spark and messe with your ignition timing.
The stock system in your car is basically a power supply, a trigger, a coilpack (which stores a charge) and the plug. These pulse plugs are basically another, smaller coilpack in the system. More crap in the system mean higher delay when the computer triggers the plug to spark - period - no getting around it. You now have a coil right in the plug, that need to be charged to a certain voltage before it delivers its spark.
Get the people who make the plugs to get their butss on here and explain it fully - without using the terms "patented pulse circuit" or some bullshit like that. I want to see the hard math and an explanation in electrical engineering terms on how this works. Because so far - everything I see says that it just delays the spark and messe with your ignition timing.
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When the ignition signal is sent to a traditional spark plug, it begins to ionize the spark gap. This means that the voltage builds in the gap until a spark can be formed. During this ionization phase, which lasts about 5 millionths of a second, the incoming voltage (which has nowhere to go) heats up ignition components including the spark plug. This is wasted energy. When the ignition voltage overcomes the resistance in the spark gap, the spark is created with an initial discharge of approximately 50 watts. Once created, the spark resides between the electrodes at very low power for over a period of 30 millionths of a second.
What is different about a pulse plug is that instead of heating ignition parts during the ionization phase, this energy is stored in the integral circuit inside the pulse plug. When the ignition power overcomes the resistance in the spark gap, the pulse circuit discharges all of its accumulated power - 1 million watts - in 2 billionths of a second!
It does look like its reserving power but on the other hand i think i know what they are doing. they have tons of info on there site plus Popular mechanics and popular science both did full reviews on them with dyno's . So im going to give them a shot I'm also testing them for a local chevy dealership so if it hurts my car its under warranty no questions asked. I'l let you know what I think when they arrive
What is different about a pulse plug is that instead of heating ignition parts during the ionization phase, this energy is stored in the integral circuit inside the pulse plug. When the ignition power overcomes the resistance in the spark gap, the pulse circuit discharges all of its accumulated power - 1 million watts - in 2 billionths of a second!
It does look like its reserving power but on the other hand i think i know what they are doing. they have tons of info on there site plus Popular mechanics and popular science both did full reviews on them with dyno's . So im going to give them a shot I'm also testing them for a local chevy dealership so if it hurts my car its under warranty no questions asked. I'l let you know what I think when they arrive
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When the ignition signal is sent to a traditional spark plug, it begins to ionize the spark gap. This means that the voltage builds in the gap until a spark can be formed. During this ionization phase, which lasts about 5 millionths of a second, the incoming voltage (which has nowhere to go) heats up ignition components including the spark plug. This is wasted energy. When the ignition voltage overcomes the resistance in the spark gap, the spark is created with an initial discharge of approximately 50 watts. Once created, the spark resides between the electrodes at very low power for over a period of 30 millionths of a second.
What is different about a pulse plug is that instead of heating ignition parts during the ionization phase, this energy is stored in the integral circuit inside the pulse plug. When the ignition power overcomes the resistance in the spark gap, the pulse circuit discharges all of its accumulated power - 1 million watts - in 2 billionths of a second!
It does look like its reserving power but on the other hand i think i know what they are doing. they have tons of info on there site plus Popular mechanics and popular science both did full reviews on them with dyno's . So im going to give them a shot I'm also testing them for a local chevy dealership so if it hurts my car its under warranty no questions asked. I'l let you know what I think when they arrive
What is different about a pulse plug is that instead of heating ignition parts during the ionization phase, this energy is stored in the integral circuit inside the pulse plug. When the ignition power overcomes the resistance in the spark gap, the pulse circuit discharges all of its accumulated power - 1 million watts - in 2 billionths of a second!
It does look like its reserving power but on the other hand i think i know what they are doing. they have tons of info on there site plus Popular mechanics and popular science both did full reviews on them with dyno's . So im going to give them a shot I'm also testing them for a local chevy dealership so if it hurts my car its under warranty no questions asked. I'l let you know what I think when they arrive
Why don't you look at the dyno results on the corvette forums.
I'm done arguing with all the 18 year old Electrical Engineers we have here.
Throw your money away.
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ok so i went to the vette forums and according to them they are junk. but i went to the solstice forums and a few guys on there praise them. so do honda guys. but they are honda guys so they don't count. but i give. like i said before i just want someone to put these in a stock cobalt just to see.
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ok so i went to the vette forums and according to them they are junk. but i went to the solstice forums and a few guys on there praise them. so do honda guys. but they are honda guys so they don't count. but i give. like i said before i just want someone to put these in a stock cobalt just to see.
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Stolen from another forum:
Lots of Dyno results here: http://pulstarplug.blogspot.com/
They ALL can't be wrong now can they?
In the March 2008 issue of Dsport mag...
Basically they stated the basics like the fact that high performance ignition system cant make the amount of a/f that enters the engine increase but it can increase the amount of energy extracted from each ignition stroke, blah blah blah.
They tested three different cars:
-2000 Acura Integra Type-R that dynoed 158.70 hp and 114.92 tq before the pulse plugs then 161.06 hp and 117.46 tq with the pulse plugs. this car showed an increase of 2.36 peak hp and 2.54 peak tq.
-Next was a 2004 Infiniti G35 coupe. The VQ35 threw down 233.98 hp with factory NGK plugs then 239.15 peak with the pulse plugs for a total gain of 5.17 hp and reached a peak gain of 10 hp 5,200 rpm.
-Last was a Mitsu Evo IX that posted 276.5 hp and 266.1 tq. Then marked up a gain of 282.2 hp and 269.2 tq. This was a gain of 5.7 hp at peak rpm and a peak gain of over 7 hp at 6,750 rpm. A gain of 3.1 peak rpm tq. was also noticed.
They stated that they believe that the pulse plugs proved to deliver the "bang-for-the-buck" promise and thought that it was going to become increasingly popular upgrade for ignition systems.
The plugs price range anywhere from $100 for a four-cylinder set up to $150 for a six-cylinder set up, as stated by Dsport Mag.
Hope this helps.
Basically they stated the basics like the fact that high performance ignition system cant make the amount of a/f that enters the engine increase but it can increase the amount of energy extracted from each ignition stroke, blah blah blah.
They tested three different cars:
-2000 Acura Integra Type-R that dynoed 158.70 hp and 114.92 tq before the pulse plugs then 161.06 hp and 117.46 tq with the pulse plugs. this car showed an increase of 2.36 peak hp and 2.54 peak tq.
-Next was a 2004 Infiniti G35 coupe. The VQ35 threw down 233.98 hp with factory NGK plugs then 239.15 peak with the pulse plugs for a total gain of 5.17 hp and reached a peak gain of 10 hp 5,200 rpm.
-Last was a Mitsu Evo IX that posted 276.5 hp and 266.1 tq. Then marked up a gain of 282.2 hp and 269.2 tq. This was a gain of 5.7 hp at peak rpm and a peak gain of over 7 hp at 6,750 rpm. A gain of 3.1 peak rpm tq. was also noticed.
They stated that they believe that the pulse plugs proved to deliver the "bang-for-the-buck" promise and thought that it was going to become increasingly popular upgrade for ignition systems.
The plugs price range anywhere from $100 for a four-cylinder set up to $150 for a six-cylinder set up, as stated by Dsport Mag.
Hope this helps.
They ALL can't be wrong now can they?
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Found on G35Driver forums:
Hey man keep the doubt coming, you've provided zero proof of your claims vs. the countless examples I have posted.
Just tested a set of these in a '06 350Z roadster with just 1200 miles on the engine and the Pulstar plugs made 13whp over the stock plugs. I was personally pretty skeptical when this company asked for me to test and review their product for Modified Mag, but after putting them to the test on a Dyna Pack dyno and doing multiple runs to verify the results, I can confidently say these plugs make big power on the VQ. I'll definitely be putting a set in my G35, my EG road race/time attack car, and even my van tow vehicle. Cheapest and easiest horsepower I've ever found.
My test will be in the April issue of Modified Mag if you want more details, but I'll post the graph up here next week if you guys want to see it for yourselves.
-Dave Pratte, Senior Editor, Modified Mag -- 2006 'Ivory Pearl' 6MT Coupe w/ Sports Package & RAS
My test will be in the April issue of Modified Mag if you want more details, but I'll post the graph up here next week if you guys want to see it for yourselves.
-Dave Pratte, Senior Editor, Modified Mag -- 2006 'Ivory Pearl' 6MT Coupe w/ Sports Package & RAS
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http://www.sparkplugs.com/sparkplug4...fid=0&KID=3095
After testing, the Pulstar plug had a horsepower advantage, having both the highest peak horsepower (205.95hp) and the
highest average horsepower (204.04hp). The NGK Iridium IX showed the second highest average horsepower (203.78hp),
and highest average torque (230.27 lb-ft.), however, the NGK Iridium IX also displayed the most reliable and consistent
horsepower figures. The Denso iridium showed the highest peak torque (235.96 lb-ft.), third highest average horsepower
(203.67hp), and second highest peak horsepower (205.51hp) and average torque (229.74 lb-ft.).
All testing performed by Design Craft Fabrication for Sparkplugs.com
highest average horsepower (204.04hp). The NGK Iridium IX showed the second highest average horsepower (203.78hp),
and highest average torque (230.27 lb-ft.), however, the NGK Iridium IX also displayed the most reliable and consistent
horsepower figures. The Denso iridium showed the highest peak torque (235.96 lb-ft.), third highest average horsepower
(203.67hp), and second highest peak horsepower (205.51hp) and average torque (229.74 lb-ft.).
All testing performed by Design Craft Fabrication for Sparkplugs.com
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Its not the fact that they claim a horsepower increase that I find rediculous, its the marketing scheme they use to sell the plugs.
Anyone who understands how a basic spark plus works should take exception to this phrase: What is different about a pulse plug is that instead of heating ignition parts during the ionization phase, this energy is stored in the integral circuit inside the pulse plug. When the ignition power overcomes the resistance in the spark gap, the pulse circuit discharges all of its accumulated power - 1 million watts - in 2 billionths of a second!
So, the energy is being stored, but also overcomes the resistance of the gap. So which is it? Overcoming the resistance in the gap is called ionizing the air. Nothing more than two different ways of stating the same thing.
Anyone who understands how a basic spark plus works should take exception to this phrase: What is different about a pulse plug is that instead of heating ignition parts during the ionization phase, this energy is stored in the integral circuit inside the pulse plug. When the ignition power overcomes the resistance in the spark gap, the pulse circuit discharges all of its accumulated power - 1 million watts - in 2 billionths of a second!
So, the energy is being stored, but also overcomes the resistance of the gap. So which is it? Overcoming the resistance in the gap is called ionizing the air. Nothing more than two different ways of stating the same thing.
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quoting mags is setting yourself up to fail miserably. they get sent stuff for free to rant and rave about them. why? because the vendors pay for the ads. don't **** off the cash cow.
go ahead and try your gimic plugs. the people who know about engines, know about tricks with normal copper core plugs will laugh as we pass you.
go ahead and try your gimic plugs. the people who know about engines, know about tricks with normal copper core plugs will laugh as we pass you.
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Quoting the manufacturer of the plug and other internet forums is complete fail.
http://www.sparkplugs.com/sparkplug4...fid=0&KID=3095
They had to reduce the gap on only the Pulse Plugs as per the manufacturer. Wonder why, spark blowout perhaps?
http://www.sparkplugs.com/sparkplug4...fid=0&KID=3095
They had to reduce the gap on only the Pulse Plugs as per the manufacturer. Wonder why, spark blowout perhaps?
You've managed to gain quite the following on this forum, and it may well be deserved. However your argument is without any theoretical proof or empirical evidence. All the facts in the world on how an ignition system works won't support your case here, since it is about flame front propagation and the combustion event itself.
