Dancing around basic physics is also fail. Refer to the bolded quote from the manufacturer I posted above.

When said claim involves bending the way an ignition system works, flame front propagation isn't the issue to argue.

 

sergio. explain indexing spark plugs, and what benefit it has to an internal combustion engine.

 

Meh witt is my protege...he has done well...and i agree with his posts...cept on politics hes a democrat...ftl

 

i find this post funny



carry on!

 

I'm studying Electronics Engineering right now and am in my final year. There is nothing wrong with their statement. Just because it has to overcome a certain resistance, does not mean the energy has to be stored in the spark plug terminals. In fact, according to their diagram the energy is stored in their "pulse circuit" then released once it has reached a set threshold.

Normal spark plug: 50W over 30 millionths of a second = 0.0015 Joules of energy released
Pulstar Plug: 1,000,000W over 2 billionths of a second = 2 Joules of energy released.

So not only does the plug release much more energy, it does it much quicker.

 

Again, thats dancing around the fact that they claim the plug doesn't have to ionize the air (since thats when they claim energy from a standard plug is lost).

Since the coil is what determines the amount of energy released, you don't think that claim is a little rediculous, that at least 99.99925 percent of ignition energy is lost with a standard plug?

 

fact is no more energy is delivered to the plug then what the coil provides. The straightest path with the least resistance will provide the best spark energy.

 

You're on the right path. However, spark plug electrodes are definitely not the easiest way to ground. We all know that air has a very high resistance and thats why spark plugs need 50K - 100K Volts to overcome this resistance.

The Pulstar plugs have a circuit that is before the spark plug terminals. This circuit can isolate the spark plug electrodes from the ignition circuit, allowing much more current to flow in the same amount of time.

Apply a voltage across a circuit with a very high resistance (regular plug) and it yields a certain amount of energy flow. Apply the same voltage, for the same amount of time to a circuit with a MUCH smaller resistance (Pulstar Plug) and it will yield a much higher energy flow. This is how the Pulstar plug is able to gobble up the extra energy that it stores it and releases it to the spark plug terminals when it has reached 2 Joules.

Now we need a chemist to tell us if by theory, increasing the initial spark has a positive effect on the combustion

 

No...you are looking at this wrong. The resistance of the gap is F'IN HUGE compared to anything else in the circuit. if you eliminate a bit of resistance in the circuit, it does not make a whole lot of difference. The only path to ground on the plug is through the electrode and into the block, through the grounding strap, yadda yadda yadda. Now, if the plug does store energy in a fast discharge circuit, it takes time for that circuit to charge up to the point where the voltage will overcome the gap resistance - then it discharges very fast and you get a short, intense, spark - after a whole lot of waiting.

 

a circuit will not allow more flow at less resistance then pure wire. The only resistance is the air gap to the grounding strap...there is no other place for the charge to go...so delivering the amount closest to what the coil packs will produce the best spark...aka copper plug.

 

But there is no delay, otherwise it can't work. The internal circuit on the spark plug must have a way to bypass the electrodes to ground, charge up really fast, then switch it back to the electrodes creating the spark.

 

Oh..i see what you are saying. Yes...to work that would have to be true - most likely some type(s) of diode(s) in there. There *has* to be a delay time to charge the circuit - no way around it.

 

Agreed, the most energy loss in the plug is caused by the 5k ohm resistor. If you want less energy wasted, buy a non-resistor race plug, they are about a buck fifty a piece from an autoparts store.

 

Edit: Okay....this is how I think it works....

The energy is fed to the plug from the coilpack or coil on plug, etc..

..the pulse circuit *may* uses a series of diodes to isolate itslef from the terminal and electrode. One part of the pulse circuit may use the incoming charge as a trigger reference so that the diodes are able to connect the pulse circuit to the terminal / electrode. once the charge is built up in the pulse circuit, the charge equals the reference from the coilpack and the pulse circuit applies the voltage across the gap (using the diodes to trigger) and you get your intense, fast spark. But - you STILL have to factor in time delays for charging and switching.

I could be totally out to lunch with this - to take it as you may

 

Side note from the argument, does anyone know the part numbers to spark plugs(and ofcourse which brands we are refering to, and if it is stock/hotter/colder)?

 

i love how my question was avoided. i have come to my own conclusion.

fail.

 

I agree - they seem to be a cool attempt at something different - in the end, I think that these plugs are about as effective as trying to catch ghosts with tennis raquets.

 

there is a freakin thread on here about these gimmic things

 

Well guys , I got my spark plugs a day earlier then expected so i can say there customer service so far is great. we just installed the plugs an hour ago. A deffinate increase in power. you can feel the increase slam you into the seat so i could easily guess its close to a 10 horse increase. I'm no professional in any way and i cant dyno it right now. my NGK R plugs were still fairly clean so i know it wasnt just having new plugs. It almost seems to run quieter too. Its wet out tonight so we really couldnt get on it so il test it tomorrow morning and see what it can do. As of right now im extremely satisfied. hopes this helps the future buyers

 

 

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Agreed with pulley police

It was wet out so you couldnt get on it yet u noticed a 10hp difference and yet it slammed you in your seat...wow...just ******* wow

 

im running synthetic blinker fluid and ceramic muffler bearings

nascar approved. look out dale jr!

 

just because its wet doesnt mean you lose traction . my car doesnt have pirellis on it. I dont need a dyno for my self satisfaction I dont need to convince anybody else but my self but thanks for giving me your 2 cents if its worth that much

 

yes. spending 100 bucks on plugs is worth the rapage to achieve a higher level is self satisfaction.

what does a 700 hp sbc and a 700 hp bbc have in common?

same plugs. ac delco, or ngk copper cores.