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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 05:21 PM
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The 2.4 is also more tunable and can get great gains in N/A form and the same could be said for FI
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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Black07SS
just a quick question. i find it cool that you are trying to swap your to an SS....but wouldnt it be cheaper to just buy a used SS 2.4?
i am not doing a COMPLETE ss swap, just what i can afford. thx for the support tho, plus i LOVE my car and cant part with it, so i do what can with what i'm given!

plus the title is finally purchased after 3 yrs. and it is clean and been a very reliable car....plus it is more fun!

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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by joeworkstoohard
i'm not disagreeing... but we did look at the blown up view... and it would be doable...

but, for the cost, effort, and the risk factor... there isn't any real reason to.

even if you were road racing, it would be better to just beef up the brakes already there, and if you need even more, you probably need more car.
The most common problem is getting the brake bias right, not simply the hardware swap.

But I agree, not really any reason to completely swap. Hell, if you keep the drums at least your e-brake will work properly!
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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 06:58 PM
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http://www.chevrolet.com/cobalt/features/

im sure that list everything for the 2008 early models of the cobalts... ;]
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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 08:25 PM
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Don't forget the automatic SS cars have a different trans with lower gears then the other automatic transmssioned Cobalts. Other then this I think you all pretty much hit the nail on the head.
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Cobalt443
There is no 05 2.4 SS
my bad 2005 & 1/2 / 2006

First Drive: 2005 Chevrolet Cobalt SS SuperchargedAnd to make things even more confusing, a non-supercharged Cobalt SS model with a normally aspirated 2.4-liter Ecotec will debut in mid-2005 as a 2006 model ...
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=104435 - 53k -
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by xCobalt05x
my bad 2005 & 1/2 / 2006

First Drive: 2005 Chevrolet Cobalt SS SuperchargedAnd to make things even more confusing, a non-supercharged Cobalt SS model with a normally aspirated 2.4-liter Ecotec will debut in mid-2005 as a 2006 model ...
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=104435 - 53k -
its still an 06 they may have released them in 05 but in regards to anything that matters its an 06.
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by outtamymind
its still an 06 they may have released them in 05 but in regards to anything that matters its an 06.
i cant help but notice your 1/4 mile time. where are you located. i ran a 16.7 stock in my automatic 2.2L and i see you ran a 16.6, your sig looks like an SS/NA but my eyes may be decepting me by a bumper swap. And i saw another person that was in florida that ran a 19 second 1/4 in their 2.2L and dont see how that is possible to be that slow. and my buddies 2.2L ran a 15.1 on a 75hp dry shot. In these pics of our time slips he is car 811 and im car 812, me automatic, his is a stick

First one is stock for stock, second was my stock vs him on the 75hp dry shot, and the last one is my fastest stock time beating his stick fastest stock time





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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 01:22 AM
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im in calgary, alberta and actually 16.6 is right around par for the 2.4L SS/NA up here. if i were to run down there i would probably be mid to high 15's just due to elevation drop and not to mention this was my first year to drag race the first night i went out i couldn't get below 16.9 and then the second night i went out i couldn't get below 17 seconds. but ya i know that my time is around par.
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 01:28 AM
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ahhh that makes sence. but that guy with a 19 second 2.2 in florida just dont make any sence to me at all.
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 01:30 AM
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ya thats really slow for the 2.2 they should be up here anyways around 17.5 which would put them at about 16.5 down there stock. somebody needs some more practice i think. and with mine i've been experimenting with a few differen't launch techniques and this winter im gonna be doing the exhaust, intake and poly mounts as the wheel hop is a bitch in my car.
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 01:32 AM
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those slips brought my comfidence back, cuz i was pissed that i could only run a 16.5174 at the track, when the car was estimated at 16.3...now i see 16.7 and 16.8, i feel better...i thought my car was just a bit slower than the rest
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 01:41 AM
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this was my first time on the drag strip. all i did was step on the gas and go. i want to hit the track again because now i hold the brake and hold the gas at 2200 rpms and then just dump the break. im interested in seeing how that works if it will make a difference at all, but i doubt it

Originally Posted by balmung892003
those slips brought my comfidence back, cuz i was pissed that i could only run a 16.5174 at the track, when the car was estimated at 16.3...now i see 16.7 and 16.8, i feel better...i thought my car was just a bit slower than the rest
talk to delta 2.2 on here. he has exhaust intake, headers and thats about it done to his car and he runs a 15.3 with his 2.2 up in michigan. he can help you out

Originally Posted by outtamymind
ya thats really slow for the 2.2 they should be up here anyways around 17.5 which would put them at about 16.5 down there stock. somebody needs some more practice i think. and with mine i've been experimenting with a few differen't launch techniques and this winter im gonna be doing the exhaust, intake and poly mounts as the wheel hop is a bitch in my car.
i cant wait to get back to VA. im on deployment right now.

I now have forged internals w/ 8.9:1 pistons. stage 1 cams. 3 angle valve job on the head. head studs. cometic head gasket. B&M shiftplus shift improver. poly trany mounts. 125hp 2 stage nitrous system. and the AEM fuel/ignition controller. right when i get back ill have the STS remote mount turbo installed and the Venom 2.2 ecotec intake manifold

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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 01:42 AM
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ya the only thing i figured out is if i launch at 3000rpm the way that i've been launching i get 17 second runs but if i launch at 4000rpm and drop the clutch then i get the 16.6 runs but i get mad wheel hop and i usually squeel the tires into second so im gonna work on a better launch and try not to spin going into second as im losing too much time in those area's if i get those 2 area's perfected i should be running really low 16's stock if not into the high 15's

and wow someone loves their mod's lol
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 01:47 AM
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lol just a bit. lol

try launching at 3500 instead of 4000. that might help a bit. from there just go up 100 rpms at a time. i know its hard but just practice it.
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 02:34 AM
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ya unfortunately i have to wait until summer now since the track is now closed which blows but on the bright side i have time to do a few mods to the car.
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 12:51 AM
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do we all have traction control...?

that might be why i have lots and lots of wheel hop

even with a ingalls damper.. and im getting my solid mounts soon
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 12:58 AM
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if im not mistaken the SS' do but you need either hptuners or a tech2 to turn it on or off. i could be mistaken on that part
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Jackalope
Don't forget the automatic SS cars have a different trans with lower gears then the other automatic transmssioned Cobalts. Other then this I think you all pretty much hit the nail on the head.
I didn't relaize this. This is offtopic but could the 2.4 SS auto trans be swapped into a 2.2 auto? I know it'd cost way more than its worth. I'm just curious if it could be done. Is the trans physically different or is the tune just better?
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 02:41 PM
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im suprised no one mentioned is doesn come with power windows and locks lol. i hate it that i dont have those two things but im just going to trade in becuase its much easier.
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