Originally Posted by inhale

im just curious of how many cobalt ss/sc's are out there and are broken and have been denied warranty work. id like to know why, what u did, and what GM said. my transmission is stuck in 2nd gear and my transaxle broke and they denied me warranty work because of 'driver abuse'. now they didnt say what caused the problem, nor did they look into it. they just said 'driver abuse' and now im screwed. i sent letter to Better Business Bureau and also a local news channel to see if they would investigate it for me. please post with ur experiences. my car broke on 9/18/06, they didnt touch my car till 9/22/06. they call me on 9/23/06 saying it wont be covered. ive been without my car for a little over a week and they didnt even give me a loaner car.

Originally Posted by XSNRG

Having worked at different dealerships it all depends on the situation. if your car was stuck in second gear is it possible that it was originally a clutch problem and the dealership based their decision on a) number of miles on the car (most dealerships only will warranty the clutch for 1 yr/12k miles) or the condition of the clutch (yes many times it is obvious if you abuse the clutch racing) ? it could be the dealer is afraid that if a gm adjuster comes out or they send the damaged part back to gm as required gm will kick back the whole warranty claim. therefore the dealership, service manager, service writer and tech will all lose money out of their own pocket and from personal experience i wouldn't want to pay for your abuse to your own car. when i worked at a dealership i got people who abused their vehicles all the time and wanted us to repair or replace parts for free (ie people would not rotate their tires or align their tires for 20k miles and then wonder why they were wearing so quickly and want us to replace them).
Having said that equally at dealerships i saw many tech's, service writers and managers deny warranty on baseless reasons just out of lazyness or greed. unfortunately mostly it was the tech's, tech's would see a mod or aftermarket radio and try to get the claim denied so they could make more money. for example a chk engine light update pays the tech .2 of an hour under warranty but the tech would want the customer to pay 1-1.5 hours just to do a reflash that took them 10 minutes. I even had one tech that everytime a car would not start under warranty would say it was bad fuel and if it was not warranty would tell me it needed a fuel pump, starter, battery and then their might be additional problems. the tech was best friends with the manager so needless to say i lost lots of good jobs when people pulled their cars and then got yelled at when they took it to another shop and it only needed a battery. also sometimes service managers have too high warranty costs and are trying to cut their warranty costs and upsell their customer pay so they make their bonus and do not raise the eye of their gm rep.
what you should do is first call gm. realize gm is a huge company and does not want to deal with bad press and the liability if the car is indeed damaged and they deny that claim. at last resort you can consult a lawyer but realize that the lawyer most likely will cost quite a bit of money and afetr reviewing the facts might not take your case. (remember a lawyer unless working on your case for free, wants to make money and a simple trans claim on a car is not a high paying case for the time he will need to spend)

Originally Posted by inhale

You drag raced it at the track, I have no sympathy for you what-so-ever. I agree with others when they say you are committing fraud. Its because of people like you that give us HONEST people who have a problem with our cars when we bring them in for service at the dealership.


yes, i have drag raced it at the track. you tell me u never raced your car. u dont have to be a dick ya know. the transmission shouldn't break as it did. i wasnt driving it very hard, just normal shifting as i went. im not committing fraud because i believe the tranny did not hold up as it was supposed to. these cars are supposed to be built up to a sports cars' expectations. so 300hp is too much for a sports cars' tranmission to hold up to? if so, GM should have never released this car. i hope you have the same problem i have or worse so i can laugh at you, u moron. and you say your HONEST....tell us all that you have never lied, may GOD strike you with 1000 lightning bolts if your not HONEST. GM is a billion dollar corporation, they should stand by their products. i never intended this to turn into a flame match and its idiotic comments left by people like you that makes me hate the car even more. this is supposed to be a place where other drivers with the same car can get help and advice but people like you turn it into a macho match. if you dont have anything useful to say......







SHUT UP!

Originally Posted by Incognito

who was this Directed to ?

Originally Posted by inhale

2006 Red Cobalt SS/SC
Red Inserts, Sun Roof, XM Radio, 7 Speaker with Sub


Current Mods: Airbox Modification, Custom Ramair, Red Painted Calipers, Polyurethane Engine Mount, 3" Catless XTC Downpipe, 1 step colder plugs, BROKEN TRANSMISSION

Future Plans:
NEW TRANSMISSION AND AXLE

4.9.06 - 2.290 60', 14.42 @ 99.95 1/4, Englishtown, NJ (only mod was airbox mod)

9.17.06 - 2.38 60', 13.82 @ 102.96
1/4, Atco raceway, NJ (2.6 pulley, tune, tranny mounts, broken transmission)

Originally Posted by inhale

allright for all the negative people out there, my car has never really been beat on. my clutch never slipped, never had a problem with the car at all. so now my car sits with a downpipe, aftermarket shift knob, and a filter. what pisses me off is that the GM Rep will not contact me, GM Customer service says the paperwork has it listed as "Driver abuse" with no other info, the dealership has it listed as "Driver abuse" with no reasons stating why. They didnt look into the car, they just looked AT it and claimed abuse. how can they tell me its abuse when they didnt even look at it? does a downpipe, different shift knob and a filter void my warranty? how can gm void a warranty on a rated 205hp car when all these cars dyno WELL OVER 205hp to the wheels? so right outta the box, soon as u drive it off the lot you warranty is voided....? thats complete bullsh*t. i dont care if GM reads this, my sig doesnt have any info about me, doesnt have my name, address, license plate number, vin #....anything. im just another avg. joe on here. i dont care if i was granny driving or racing, this car is qualified to GM as a 'sports car'. they sell it as a 'sports car'. once the car breaks, they claim its a 'coupe'? im completely disgusted in GM, in GM's customer service. the only people willing to help but cant is the actual dealership. i will never buy a chevy, or a GM car, ever again. if i wanted to pay for repairs on a sports car, i wouldve bout a used camaro, used vette, used anything that didnt have a warranty. all these cobalts having problems, shouldnt that send a message to GM saying... "hey, our cars that we made suck. lets fix the problem and make the customers happy". no, instead they take our money and run. im taking this to the full mile. ill leave the car infront of the dealership with a HUGE sign on it saying "BEWARE: GM doesnt NOT cover warranty issues". how can they tell me it was abuse and deny me warranty work when they NEVER looked into the car. they put it on a lift and say "hell, lets just say its abuse and see if he doesnt fight it. if he doesnt, more money in our pockets. if he does fight it, maybe we should fix it". i cant get any answers from GM regarding my car and that is complete BS. onward to the next step, calling local news, placing complaint with BBB, contacting family friend lawyer and i will, repeat i will, take it to court if it goes that far. id rather pay a lawyer 8k then pay GM 4k just to make a point. if any GM members are reading this, i have a little message for you....


The cars u produce are garbage, your service sucks. Maybe you guys shouldve went bankrupt because you are heading that way in the future. ive never been so ashamed of owning a GM product until now and you too yourselves should be ashamed. Imagine you went on a tropical vacation and when you arrived all the power went out for the duration of your trip. you'd like to be reimburshed, wouldnt you? well thats how i feel about this P.O.S. car i own. shame on you GM, shame.


PS: i thought our motors were good for 400hp, i thought are trannys were good for 600hp? what happened to that? they are breaking with 300hp to the wheels? GM stage 2 brings 270hp to the wheels...so WTF?

Originally Posted by 06blackg85ss

hey trix I knew your car wasn't covered I was referring to a different one... yet again another member screwed by gm... but yeah darksun has broken everything but the engine on his car and he was always covered by warranty... sux for the rest of you guys

Originally Posted by 4drssmikekc

You guys that are saying he abused his car and he modded it and thats why it broke and thats why GM wont cover it you are missing the point that GM has a resposiablity here and they are not living up to it. Laws were created to prevent these exact issues. Thats what SEMA is all about most people this SEMA is just a large vendor show every year. The dealership is one that is manipulating GM and causing you guys to get screwed on your warranty.

Originally Posted by 4drssmikekc

heres some food for thought- if you have a bone stock ss/sc or any other car that is entry level but packeged much like the ss/sc and you leave it stock shoulded the parts last more than 30k miles no matter how you drive?

Originally Posted by 1stbluSS

ok here is the thing. the cost of the car should not reflect the quality of service you receive. So stop saying hey it was only 20k. ONLY 20K THAT IS A **** LOAD OF MONEY ! Also I dont remember the sign at my dealer that said " for good treatment you must purchase a vehicle at least 25k or above" Maybe that is in the fine print. It doesnt matter if you buy a chevy aveo if the thing is falling apart you should be treated with the same respect as the guy in his Tahoe or Trailblazer SS. The other thing that cracks me up is the well have you been driving it hard ? This question I get everytime I go in the dealership. So I answer with this. GM put SS badges and a SC what the **** do you think ? Well thats my rant.

Originally Posted by 1stbluSS

ok here is the thing. the cost of the car should not reflect the quality of service you receive. So stop saying hey it was only 20k. ONLY 20K THAT IS A **** LOAD OF MONEY ! Also I dont remember the sign at my dealer that said " for good treatment you must purchase a vehicle at least 25k or above" Maybe that is in the fine print. It doesnt matter if you buy a chevy aveo if the thing is falling apart you should be treated with the same respect as the guy in his Tahoe or Trailblazer SS. The other thing that cracks me up is the well have you been driving it hard ? This question I get everytime I go in the dealership. So I answer with this. GM put SS badges and a SC what the **** do you think ? Well thats my rant.

Originally Posted by badg1rl

well my opinion...GM should have never put a supercharger in this car ..they should be expecting this to happen and im sure they tested the car before release...u mean to tell me there were no problems at all from all the test driving GM Must have done before releasing to the public? something had to have gone wrong at some point... and i believe that they probably didnt really care because gm knows that in the event something like this happens..they could just black list a warrently and charge the customer for the repair because its within their guidelines. granted modifications will effect the car....but ive seen a lot of instances where these cars stock just cant take any abuse.

people will beat on the car especially the young people who bought the car for the reason that it came supercharged....why buy a supercharged car if your going to drive 30 mph all the time

...people will "drive" this **** out of it....the bottom line...its pretty poorly constructed when cars with 3k miles are blowing up...regardless of how hard you drive the car...one or 2 times down the track..or in pauls case not at all should not kill a car.

Originally Posted by 06blackg85ss

I dunno... but gm obviously knows the stock axles and clutch are weak.... I probably stated this before but for their cars that they race what do they do?
replace axles with grand am ones... use and exedy race clutch... oh yeah and replace the rivetted in ball joints in the control arms too....
so it shows they know whats not up to par on these cars