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Old 12-13-2008, 04:44 AM
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since the AC has a clutch built into the pulley replacing it isn't gonna happen.. looks like I will just cut one rib off of the belt and use that
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Old 12-13-2008, 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by cobalt_addict View Post
since the AC has a clutch built into the pulley replacing it isn't gonna happen.. looks like I will just cut one rib off of the belt and use that
its built into the pulley itself? there has to be a way to remove just the pulley from the clutch assembly. if not...and if your adamant on using a full width LSJ belt, you can find a LSJ AC unit...
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Old 12-13-2008, 04:07 PM
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changing the pulley or the entire compressor seems like way too much work for this. I'll jsut take a rib off the belt like everybody else
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Old 12-19-2008, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by elecblue06 View Post
someone find out the length of the belt and I'll find you the belt you SHOULD use for the swap.. or you can look at a different routing of the belt which requires a smooth alternator pulley as well like i'm using
can you post the diagram you had for your procharged setup? i don't think it worked in the other thread.
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Originally Posted by IonNinja View Post
can you post the diagram you had for your procharged setup? i don't think it worked in the other thread.
sure



it requires the use of a smooth alternator pulley but really thats alot cheaper then getting the setup from the lsj
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Old 12-22-2008, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by elecblue06 View Post
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it requires the use of a smooth alternator pulley but really thats alot cheaper then getting the setup from the lsj
where'd u get the alternator pulley from? Speed Mafia? so on your setup that was the only thing you changed on the belt side right?

would certainly save some time, you'd just have to track down the right size belt at that point...
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Originally Posted by IonNinja View Post
where'd u get the alternator pulley from? Speed Mafia? so on your setup that was the only thing you changed on the belt side right?

would certainly save some time, you'd just have to track down the right size belt at that point...
yup smp.. essentially what it is.. is a machined down stock alternator pulley you could definitely pick one up form him .

as far as the belt is a 59.25" belt gates number is KVR050586 or something.. (5 rib 58.6" inner diameter ) they'll have them at napa or something

that would save a BUNCH of money i mean technically you could run that belt without the pulley but it's obviously not going to grip as much lol or unless you can find a double sided version of that belt in which case no smooth pulley would be needed
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Ehm... BELT SLIP PAST 5000 RPM lol...

gave hunter my 2.9 pulley to try out. looks like the furthest you can go on a stock lsj belt is a 3" pulley.

Though since he plugged the s/c holes and ported it; its damn loud on that 2.9 pulley. May be even louder than my 2.7

I finished w/ my I.M. gasket Casey; I'll bring you back your belt tool this week.
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Old 12-23-2008, 03:43 AM
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chillin. ill probably be out in agoura again tomorrow. gimme a call at some point
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Old 12-23-2008, 04:08 AM
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pics of final install?
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Originally Posted by elecblue06 View Post
someone find out the length of the belt and I'll find you the belt you SHOULD use for the swap.. or you can look at a different routing of the belt which requires a smooth alternator pulley as well like i'm using
Found this on the corvette forums...

"A serp belt is labled with 4 digits and "K" number. The "K" is your number of ribs. The first 3 numbers are "inches long" and the 4th digit is for tenths of an inch. For example a 1025K6 is a belt that is 102 & 5/10ths inches long. So your belt should be a 0770K6 or K60770 depending if it is Goodyear or Gates. But there could be different types of labeling. As long as you have those numbers you should be able to get them at any decent auto parts store."

After looking around this number system works, just not always in the order presented above and not always with a "K". Anyways, stock lsj belt is a 060702 , 6 rib @ 70.2 inches. I've looked around online cross referencing belt part numbers and cannot find any belts in a 5 rib that are within an inch of 70.2. If anyone else has better luck, please post where you find it because I want one too!
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Originally Posted by mtbrent View Post
Found this on the corvette forums...

"A serp belt is labled with 4 digits and "K" number. The "K" is your number of ribs. The first 3 numbers are "inches long" and the 4th digit is for tenths of an inch. For example a 1025K6 is a belt that is 102 & 5/10ths inches long. So your belt should be a 0770K6 or K60770 depending if it is Goodyear or Gates. But there could be different types of labeling. As long as you have those numbers you should be able to get them at any decent auto parts store."

After looking around this number system works, just not always in the order presented above and not always with a "K". Anyways, stock lsj belt is a 060702 , 6 rib @ 70.2 inches. I've looked around online cross referencing belt part numbers and cannot find any belts in a 5 rib that are within an inch of 70.2. If anyone else has better luck, please post where you find it because I want one too!
yea it looks like it would be easier to switch to a different setup .. napa has alot of odd sizes too
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Originally Posted by elecblue06 View Post
yup smp.. essentially what it is.. is a machined down stock alternator pulley you could definitely pick one up form him .

as far as the belt is a 59.25" belt gates number is KVR050586 or something.. (5 rib 58.6" inner diameter ) they'll have them at napa or something
but the M62 pulley would be in a different position than your C1 unit so wouldn't that likely change the belt length?

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Ehm... BELT SLIP PAST 5000 RPM lol...

gave hunter my 2.9 pulley to try out. looks like the furthest you can go on a stock lsj belt is a 3" pulley.
an oversized idler pulley should fix that issue although I'm sure its easier and cheaper to just grab a stage 2 belt

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Originally Posted by IonNinja View Post
but the M62 pulley would be in a different position than your C1 unit so wouldn't that likely change the belt length?



an oversized idler pulley should fix that issue although I'm sure its easier and cheaper to just grab a stage 2 belt
yea ... it'll change the length a bit depending on t he size pulley you're running might nee dlike a 62 inch belt instead or something but someone needs to have the setup first lol
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Originally Posted by IonNinja View Post
but the M62 pulley would be in a different position than your C1 unit so wouldn't that likely change the belt length?



an oversized idler pulley should fix that issue although I'm sure its easier and cheaper to just grab a stage 2 belt
i already have the STGII belt. just need to throw it on
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hunter, ur going to run 2.9 on stock internals? im interested in what pulley i can get away with before rebuilding.
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Originally Posted by 07cobaltguy View Post
hunter, ur going to run 2.9 on stock internals? im interested in what pulley i can get away with before rebuilding.
been running the 2.9 for a couple weeks now..maybe 3 weeks. no issues at all. saw a good 10-15hp increase from the 3.0"
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ok wow. so then no worry if i drop to the stage 2 with injectors and a tune then.
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should be fine. my initial install was with a 3.0" pulley, which is the stg II pulley anyway. course at the end of the day, airflow doesnt blow up parts, HP does.
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Originally Posted by HunterKiller89 View Post
should be fine. my initial install was with a 3.0" pulley, which is the stg II pulley anyway. course at the end of the day, airflow doesnt blow up parts, HP does.
HP is just a generated number for the masses

heat and cyl pressure destroy pistons on our car.
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Originally Posted by Steven Flit View Post
HP is just a generated number for the masses

heat and cyl pressure destroy pistons on our car.
heat kills pistons on YOUR car maybe, but HP kills it on our cars...lol cyl pressures are a big issue for the stock 2.2 internals, whereas heat really isnt an issue, assuming no one is knocking. BTW steve...horsepower IS cylinder pressures...lol
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Originally Posted by HunterKiller89 View Post
heat kills pistons on YOUR car maybe, but HP kills it on our cars...lol cyl pressures are a big issue for the stock 2.2 internals, whereas heat really isnt an issue, assuming no one is knocking. BTW steve...horsepower IS cylinder pressures...lol
just bein specific
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is the fact that my ion is a manual going to change anything for this?
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Is there still anyone that you can pay like 2 g's to do a full piece together and install..? There used to be that one guy.. If not, it's cool, but paying a flat price would be far easier than piecing every single part together.. However, piecing it together allows you to use better and aftermarket parts though too.. Stage kits..
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Is there still anyone that you can pay like 2 g's to do a full piece together and install..? There used to be that one guy.. If not, it's cool, but paying a flat price would be far easier than piecing every single part together.. However, piecing it together allows you to use better and aftermarket parts though too.. Stage kits..
the only person im aware of who was doing that only did it for one person because he had the complete setup. he was seling it and offering a free install to the buyer. he didnt have multiple setups or anything. The closest to a complete kit would be the kit made for the cavalier. that will have MOST of what you need.

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is the fact that my ion is a manual going to change anything for this?
not at all.
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