JBP Cams Revisited: New Grind for `09!

Old Feb 25, 2009 | 08:00 AM
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JBP Cams Revisited: New Grind for `09!

Who wants camshafts??

We're going to be working on a new grind for `09. One that we're hoping will exceed our stage 2 in gains, power and sound.

But here's the kicker, we're trying to go for a full Billet Steel replacement. Which means, no core charges/exchanges, no regrinds and increased strength with billet steel composition.

We've been doing the billet steel camshaft thing for the ECOTEC for a while now, however, there was no grind specific to them. We'd do our stage 2 grind, custom grind or race grind which is not computer friendly, extremely high lift and difficult to tune.

Possibilities:
  • Brand new Billet Steel Camshafts
  • Non-Regrind
  • Billet Steel Strength
  • Entirely New Grind
  • No modified base circle
  • No Core Charges/Exchanges
  • Brand New Cams for under $450*
  • Return your old cam cores for refund*

*Price to be determined


So we're taking it down a notch, proposing a new grind and trying to do a massive run of these in order to offer a real steal for their introduction. Remember, we can only offer killer deals when we get a huge number of people involved. If you want billet camshafts cheap, sign on as interested and we'll start the development and testing required.
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 09:45 AM
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Blower grind?
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 09:53 AM
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Are you guys going to make a camshaft that will work on the 07 cobalt ss/sc with out any issues direct bolt in ? If not can you all use our stock cams and regrind them for more lift and duration? i want a cam that makes a **** load of power and chug real hard also.
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 09:58 AM
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a blower grind would be nice. Have no idea what that would require though.
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 11:20 AM
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Yes the grind will be for the forced induction LSJ motor.
These cams will be direct bolt in and will be more powerful than the stage2.
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 11:24 AM
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interested in what the price and power gains might be, when you get cams do you have to replace to whole valve train to?
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 11:27 AM
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Cam specs?
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by JBP
Yes the grind will be for the forced induction LSJ motor.
These cams will be direct bolt in and will be more powerful than the stage2.
I think he is saying a grind made specificly for making power with a Supercharger... and not any of the Tri-Flow stuff either. Just a straight cut, regular ole cam.

I too would like that... but in a 272 with a nice choppy idle.
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 11:49 AM
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What about the springs? IIRC, there was a huge issue with springs with the triflow cams.
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 12:34 PM
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specs please.

also, stop having colt cams do your grinds. they are a massive failure.

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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Witt
Cam specs?
As of now, we're trying to keep stock, if not similar duration to the LSJ profile. Lift will be considerably more than stock. Exact specs at this point are somewhat sketchy as we build up a profile, we're going to have to do some considerable testing to ensure it will make more power.

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also, stop having colt cams do your grinds. they are a massive failure.
Care to elaborate on that?? (in a PM of course, no need to clutter up this developing thread).. I respect Geoff at Colt. We haven't used him for our services in quite some time, but he's definitely a good person and I wouldn't hesitate doing business with him again.

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What about the springs? IIRC, there was a huge issue with springs with the triflow cams.
Springs aren't an issue, just ensure proper clearancing is.
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 12:57 PM
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can u still run stock lifters with these cams? cause iirc all(not just yours) the other grind have caused lifter failure
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 01:01 PM
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i'll take a turbo grind
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 01:04 PM
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i want some baddddd
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by hungryhip-ccp
i'll take a turbo grind
+1.............
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by spike
can u still run stock lifters with these cams? cause iirc all(not just yours) the other grind have caused lifter failure
Never heard of a lifter failure with our stage 2 regrinds. Lot's of guys shim the stock lifter for our cams, but the ones we've installed, we've never shimmed and haven't had a problem. We've installed about 6 cams for customers. Regardless, the stock base circle is maintained, thus allowing the use of the stock lifters.

i'll take a turbo grind
It's tough coming up with just one grind, never mind two. There's just too much research and testing for a smaller company like ours for multiple grinds. We're just poking interest at this point and would like to use our billet design for a permanent, non-reground cam that will be a straight bolt-on.
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 01:08 PM
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do u know what kind of power gains u wil exspect
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 08:32 PM
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If you make what you say your going to make then I know myself plus three guys around here that are waiting cash in hand. IF you make what you guys are saying you are.
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 09:35 PM
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I am very interested as I will be doing a head in the future.
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 09:40 PM
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I'm looking for something that would maintain very close to stock driveability.... keeping the specs close to stock with more lift sounds interesting to me. I'd want to see some data and what not on them but I'd be very interested for that price.
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 09:43 PM
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are these going to have a staggered set of intake loves like the last ones...
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 10:46 PM
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I want some cams that sound really good,i want that muscle car sound with real good power.Like a 280 duration and about a 540 lift. let us know what specs they are i will buy them for sure.They got to be for the 07 ss/sc also because of the extra sensor. And who is grinding thes cams?

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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by scott allen
I want some cams that sound really good,i want that muscle car sound with real good power.Like a 280 duration and about a 540 lift. let us know what specs they are i will buy them for sure.They got to be for the 07 ss/sc also because of the extra sensor. And who is grinding thes cams?
They are going to have almost the same duration as stock, but a lot more lift.
According to our research the LSJ cams through out all years are interchangeable. The L61 cams were changed in '07 and are not interchangeable with the '06 model year.

Lobes will not be staggered.
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 10:20 AM
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would that also mean that the 06 will not fit the 07?If you can put in writing that these cam will work in my 07 ss/sc with out any issues,i mean put them in go get tuned pick up hp and run just as good as the stock cams do ill buy them with no problems.Also who is grinding them,comp cams ? Erson? lunati?edelbrock?trick flow? gm? Im just worried about the extra nock sensor because the 06 and before dont have them.
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 01:23 PM
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lsj cams are interchangable in all years. 04-07. l61's are not.
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