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Old May 21, 2008 | 04:48 PM
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Shiiit $200 ill do the same... lol
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Old May 21, 2008 | 07:57 PM
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hmmmmmmmm

Weekend is upon me...
Heading to Bowling green this weekend for the big corvettefourm party...

need a vacatoin SO BAD... How bad...??

I'm missing 2 SCCA autocrosses for this.
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Old May 21, 2008 | 10:41 PM
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again im gonna try, is there anyone who can get a car in this saturday for an inspection and emissions. let me know please
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Old May 22, 2008 | 12:03 AM
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So if I throw someone 200 bucks they'll do the basics for me? I'm not too concerned with a dyno at this time anyway.. Will that be a very solid basis for modifying the 2.4 ECU-wise?
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Old May 22, 2008 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by averagewhiteboy
So if I throw someone 200 bucks they'll do the basics for me? I'm not too concerned with a dyno at this time anyway.. Will that be a very solid basis for modifying the 2.4 ECU-wise?
Yep. Correct. $300 and I'll do the entire TCU as well.
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Old May 22, 2008 | 09:29 AM
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TCU..? Sorry.. New to tuning. haha

Should I get my exhaust stuff first before a tune like on a bike? Or are you really only doing ECU related things like shift points..?
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Old May 22, 2008 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by TheSilentFart
Yep. Correct. $300 and I'll do the entire TCU as well.
using whose hpt
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Old May 22, 2008 | 09:58 AM
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The engine control unit & transmission control unit (automatic) can both be tuned with the HPT. If PimpLay2 gets the HPT and with the help of Dead Zen and myself, we'll start tweaking/tuning. This is still only an idea, its up to PimpLay2 if he wants to spend the cash on it.
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Old May 22, 2008 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Hustler01
The engine control unit & transmission control unit (automatic) can both be tuned with the HPT. If PimpLay2 gets the HPT and with the help of Dead Zen and myself, we'll start tweaking/tuning. This is still only an idea, its up to PimpLay2 if he wants to spend the cash on it.
Yes, but for the price of a tune as mentioned earlier, a TCM tune will cost more in addition to a PCM tune generally speaking. Very few people will do more work for free.

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TCU..? Sorry.. New to tuning. haha

Should I get my exhaust stuff first before a tune like on a bike? Or are you really only doing ECU related things like shift points..?
BCM = body control module. no tune available or necessary, basically just controls electrical functions - i.e. auto headlights, wiper speed control, anti-theft

TCM = transmission control module. Tuneable for autos. This is what controls your shift points and stuff.

PCM = powertrain control module. This is where you tune PE, VE, timing, all the "good" stuff power-related.

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Old May 22, 2008 | 10:05 AM
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Ill tune a 2.4 auto for 300
Ill tune w/e hpt supports for 300 for basic tune.
For a precise tune i recommend getting dyno time with a/f reading or installing an afr gauge in car.

I normally dont do this but I need cash...
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Old May 22, 2008 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by djt81185
Ill tune a 2.4 auto for 300
Ill tune w/e hpt supports for 300 for basic tune.
For a precise tune i recommend getting dyno time with a/f reading or installing an afr gauge in car.

I normally dont do this but I need cash...
You must if you're willing to go back into the local tuning business!
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Old May 22, 2008 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by alleycat58
Yes, but for the price of a tune as mentioned earlier, a TCM tune will cost more in addition to a PCM tune generally speaking. Very few people will do more work for free.
Seeing how you dont need to do much more work to change the shift points and shift firmness, I dont think that well be charging 300 for a tune. Credits + maybe 50-100. So $200 max if you drive to us. For just a basic tune, without a dyno or wideband.
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Old May 22, 2008 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Hustler01
Seeing how you dont need to do much more work to change the shift points and shift firmness, I dont think that well be charging 300 for a tune. Credits + maybe 50-100. So $200 max if you drive to us. For just a basic tune, without a dyno or wideband.
Well, up to each individual for their prices. $300 is pretty much the norm and from watching what the local tuners do, that's more than fair to get a tune from someone who has the knowledge to not **** it up.

NM, if you're willing to tune w/o dyno or wideband $200 might even be a little steep
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Old May 22, 2008 | 10:16 AM
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Funny you said about an AF ratio gauge.. I have an AM one and am getting a stock s/c a pillar pod from Jester today for it. So if I do a good tune with a dyno, that AF gauge will actually truely benefit me..??
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Old May 22, 2008 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by averagewhiteboy
Funny you said about an AF ratio gauge.. I have an AM one and am getting a stock s/c a pillar pod from Jester today for it. So if I do a good tune with a dyno, that AF gauge will actually truely benefit me..??
Narrowband A/F or wideband A/F?
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Old May 22, 2008 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by averagewhiteboy
Funny you said about an AF ratio gauge.. I have an AM one and am getting a stock s/c a pillar pod from Jester today for it. So if I do a good tune with a dyno, that AF gauge will actually truely benefit me..??
If narrowband no

If wideband maybe. Depends on if it has an output wire or not...If it does it makes tuning very easy and very accurate. Otherwise the tuner has to eyeball it...but it can be done
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Old May 22, 2008 | 10:25 AM
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Nobody replies to anything I say in this thread. Whats funny is I already have HPTuners plus I get the beta versions too when they come out, yet no one wants to help with the simple little inspection
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Old May 22, 2008 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Hustler01
Seeing how you dont need to do much more work to change the shift points and shift firmness, I dont think that well be charging 300 for a tune. Credits + maybe 50-100. So $200 max if you drive to us. For just a basic tune, without a dyno or wideband.
I wish you guys the best of luck...

Like I said, I would suggest reading some EFI Engine Management books now. And spending your lives on the hptforums reading, before you attempt to touch anybody elses car.
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Old May 22, 2008 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by SK360
I wish you guys the best of luck...

Like I said, I would suggest reading some EFI Engine Management books now. And spending your lives on the hptforums reading, before you attempt to touch anybody elses car.
Im with you on that, and I know somone on here that still touches the customers cars and doesnt know how to tune, and he gets around it buy basically shutting off the knock sensor by de-sensitizing the tables, please dont get in the habit of doing that, Ive seen a few he's done lately when we logged them
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Old May 22, 2008 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by BOOSSTED 06
Im with you on that, and I know somone on here that still touches the customers cars and doesnt know how to tune, and he gets around it buy basically shutting off the knock sensor by de-sensitizing the tables, please dont get in the habit of doing that, Ive seen a few he's done lately when we logged them
More detail...here or pm em to me
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Old May 22, 2008 | 10:32 AM
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its not a person in this area its closer to where I used to live in Buffalo, still up there though working with peoples cars. Im not getting into vendor bashing, seeing as I will be one soon, but it is a vendor on here.
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Old May 22, 2008 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by BOOSSTED 06
Nobody replies to anything I say in this thread. Whats funny is I already have HPTuners plus I get the beta versions too when they come out, yet no one wants to help with the simple little inspection
I would help if I could, but I'm in worse shape than you - I've been out of inspection since May of 2007. I'm guessing you need more of a lick and stick type of place, as do I. As you can tell, I haven't had much luck.
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Old May 22, 2008 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by alleycat58
I would help if I could, but I'm in worse shape than you - I've been out of inspection since May of 2007. I'm guessing you need more of a lick and stick type of place, as do I. As you can tell, I haven't had much luck.
really dont, mine will pass the emissions, it might not pass the visual cause there is no rear O2 sensor and on the buckle for the stock belts arent there, the main belt is there. There is a Cat there too its just extremely high flow so it doesnt look like much of a cat. I dont sell out shops because Im one myself Im just not going to get my inspection license. I just need some help
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Old May 22, 2008 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by BOOSSTED 06
Im with you on that, and I know somone on here that still touches the customers cars and doesnt know how to tune, and he gets around it buy basically shutting off the knock sensor by de-sensitizing the tables, please dont get in the habit of doing that, Ive seen a few he's done lately when we logged them
I know a few professional LSx tuners that will desensitize some of the tables and bump up the KR recovery rate, but nothing as extreme as turning themm off completley.
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Old May 22, 2008 | 10:45 AM
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I know a few professional LSx tuners that will desensitize some of the tables and bump up the KR recovery rate, but nothing as extreme as turning themm off completley.
right and you do need to sometimes, but trust me these things are basically turned off, I mean they dont use knock sensors on race cars but a daily should have it cause it helps diagnose problems, this guy basically turns em off. I will desensitize them if a customer asks or we get some phantom knock but otherwise I dont touch em

some tuners like the one Im fixing stuff for use it to cover mistakes and not knowing how to tune

BY THE WAY IT IS NONE OF THE SHOPS THAT ARE IN MY SIGNATURE, thos shops are worth every penny you pay

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