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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 11:55 AM
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Fuel Evap - 2 hours!

Hey guys - need some quick advice.

A few weeks ago, the check engine light popped on. Took it to the dealer, they said it was a bad gas cap. So they replaced it for free and all (warranty). Well, upon leaving the dealership, CEL came back on, and the DIC said 'check gas cap'. Figuring that it was no biggy, and/or that the dealership fucked up, I drove on for another couple weeks until I had time to take it back in.

Fast forward to today. Dealership says that it is a hole in the fuel evap line: a rock or something must have hit it.

A ******* rock? Seriously? Isn't that **** under the car supposed to be built for that kind of ****?

Anyways, they try and tell me that they cannot replace just the line or patch it (some BS about GM not allowing it yadda yadda) and that the entire tank has to be replaced, some $1400. Oh which of course is not warrentied btw.

So I figure that, I am not losing gas, and the only thing that is bad atm is the CEL... i'll live with it until I can figure out if it can be patched or what not. So the dealer tells me I have to pay $95 for a diagnostic fee. *******!

Anywho, to my question - Can it be patched? And/or can the line just be replaced? Or are they right, and I need to call my insurance and bite the bullet? Help please asap. I have to pick up the car in 2 hours and don't want to be screwed out of $95 for no reason lol.

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-Cliff notes- Hole in fuel evap line. Dealer says entire fuel tank must be replaced. Does it?
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 11:59 AM
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Depends on which line. The nylon lines are according to GM non serviceable. Regardless of whether its repairable or not youre on the hook for $95.

Cliff notes: repair damaged line with fuel hose or fuel safe epoxy.
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Maven
Depends on which line. The nylon lines are according to GM non serviceable. Regardless of whether its repairable or not youre on the hook for $95.

Cliff notes: repair damaged line with fuel hose or fuel safe epoxy.
Thanks. Fuel safe epoxy, would that be good on any of the evap lines? I haven't looked at it yet to know which line they are talking about.
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 12:06 PM
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ur over ur warranty?
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 12:07 PM
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ur over ur warranty?
No, but road debris is not covered.
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 12:12 PM
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No, but road debris is not covered.
whaaaa!!! i honestly didnt kno tht... thts crazy! wht do they think u went offroading in a cobalt?


i would say try a different dealer first... just to be sure u cant get it done for free....
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 12:17 PM
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whaaaa!!! i honestly didnt kno tht... thts crazy! wht do they think u went offroading in a cobalt?


i would say try a different dealer first... just to be sure u cant get it done for free....
Yea... but then I would be out of $95 twice instead of just once lol
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by UmeNNis
Yea... but then I would be out of $95 twice instead of just once lol
they shouldnt have charged u in the first place! i have never been charged for tht. ****** thieves
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 12:24 PM
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They don't call them stealerships for nothing
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 12:26 PM
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take it to another dealership and play dumb...
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Tazmanian_Dvl
take it to another dealership and play dumb...
thts wht i would do.


dont mention the other dealership, bring it in and say "i have this light that came on, i have no clue what its from"
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 03:23 PM
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Bump for more thoughts.

Alright well depending on the situation (I am about to look at it) I may just use JB Weld. It says it can be used on gas tanks etc... so should hold up fine.

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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by UmeNNis
Anyways, they try and tell me that they cannot replace just the line or patch it (some BS about GM not allowing it yadda yadda) and that the entire tank has to be replaced, some $1400. Oh which of course is not warrentied btw.

So I figure that, I am not losing gas, and the only thing that is bad atm is the CEL... i'll live with it until I can figure out if it can be patched or what not. So the dealer tells me I have to pay $95 for a diagnostic fee. *******!

Anywho, to my question - Can it be patched? And/or can the line just be replaced? Or are they right, and I need to call my insurance and bite the bullet? Help please asap. I have to pick up the car in 2 hours and don't want to be screwed out of $95 for no reason lol.

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-Cliff notes- Hole in fuel evap line. Dealer says entire fuel tank must be replaced. Does it?
Evap line? Repair it. At least there aren't spiders in it.

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Bump for more thoughts.

Alright well depending on the situation (I am about to look at it) I may just use JB Weld. It says it can be used on gas tanks etc... so should hold up fine.
How bout magnum steel supposedly stronger.

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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 08:51 PM
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Wow how cheap is that dealer, i would have replaced that for you under warranty for the first time.
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobaltss/TC
Wow how cheap is that dealer, i would have replaced that for you under warranty for the first time.
Yup, and then your area warranty rep woulda bounced the claim when the tank gets returned and the auditors discovered the pipe was damaged and not defective, and your dealership would got charged back for an unauthorised repair to the tune of $1000.
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 11:00 PM
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Yup, and then your area warranty rep woulda bounced the claim when the tank gets returned and the auditors discovered the pipe was damaged and not defective, and your dealership would got charged back for an unauthorised repair to the tune of $1000.
That never happens.............
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 01:34 PM
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is it really our fault that some of the parts on this car are of **** quality, really **** quality. /rant.
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 09:25 PM
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is it really our fault that some of the parts on this car are of **** quality, really **** quality. /rant.
Dude...no car is bulletproof.

My dad bought a brand new bmw 7 series in 1999 (at that time) and the **** was falling apart in the first week...the interior paneling was falling out, lighting went out, seams were coming apart...******* hilarious.
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 09:27 PM
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if there is a hole, you cant warranty that, it will bounce, and you are responsibe for diagnostics.
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by theneelster
Dude...no car is bulletproof.

My dad bought a brand new bmw 7 series in 1999 (at that time) and the **** was falling apart in the first week...the interior paneling was falling out, lighting went out, seams were coming apart...******* hilarious.
OMG, 7 series are awesome, not sure if it was the 99 style or the next style(cant remember) but the cup holder/storage bin at the front of the center console has one of the neat slow open lids, well if you spilled crap in it or got coins stuck in it, when you closed it the mechanism would be damaged, to replace that little lid, you needed the entire center console top/wood trim assembly, to the tune of $1700......those were fun.



And yeah, come on.....some people bitch about stuff that GM has no responsibility for, some times **** just happens, sometimes things just break and it doesnt mean they are defective or garbage or poorly engineered, it just means it broke, just because you bought a car from them doesnt mean they are liable to fix every failure that happens and they sure as hell cant be expected to take care of damages.

What if the guy you sold your car to came back to you everytime it broke, got damaged or made some sort of noise and expected you to diagnose and repair it free of charge??? You'd think he was out of his mind right? So why do so many of us treat Chevy like that?
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