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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 07:38 PM
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Sorry to hear man, when we tuned it we made sure you had 0 knock so I wouldn't think it would be to much timing. Any idea what code it threw?? That really sux man maybe it had something to do with those really low numbers you got it could have been going out for a while and you just did not notice it.

Sound like a head gasket to me white smoke normally means burning water.
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 08:40 PM
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Man that sucks. I duno but his car was running strong earlier last night and seemed to be holding everything just fine. Hate to see just one thing after the other happen to you man.
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 08:45 PM
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^^^everyone with a lsj that has blow therre engine car was running hard right before they blew there engine.
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 08:59 PM
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sorry to hear this derek If you need a beater car I still have my old Cavalier sitting in my driveway. It runs fine. The only problems are that the rotors are rusted from sitting in 6 inches of Hurricane Ike flood water and the cooling fan needs to be rewired. Other than that it's a former show winner lol.
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Darkmanx
^^^everyone with a lsj that has blow therre engine car was running hard right before they blew there engine.
not true...watched a guy downshift going up a hill. Spewed oil everywhere...
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 09:01 PM
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what does him having a large pully have to do with him not blowing his engine? it has to do with how much boost and how much air he is forcing in his motor which was 20psi and not pully size. and thats alot of boost on a stock headgasket. sure their are people that do it but its not safe and sure it could have other things that have caused his engine to go but i think his headgasket blew and caused other damage. that sucks you just fixed your tranny and now this.
Are you serious? Maybe because pulley size dictates how much air is being forced into the motor?
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 09:17 PM
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What does his pulley size have to do with it, are you serious? That pulley size dictates how much airflow is going into the engine. How do you think that air is getting forced into the motor? Where do you think that "boost" was coming from?
if you would read what i wrote it doesnt matter the pully size thats on the supercharger its how much air is forced into the engine. the tvs is a 3.1in pully i think doesnt force the same amount of air as a eaton with a 3.1in pully. in other words its not the pully size its how much air is going in the engine because with the same size pully bigger s/c's force more air into the engine than smaller superchargers.
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 09:20 PM
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you guys are losing the translation...
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 09:20 PM
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if ur car is still in warranty range get it back to stock and throw the stage 2 tune on.. my buddy did it twice and got a brand new motor twice... try it!!
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by supermantxz24
if you would read what i wrote it doesnt matter the pully size thats on the supercharger its how much air is forced into the engine. the tvs is a 3.1in pully i think doesnt force the same amount of air as a eaton with a 3.1in pully. in other words its not the pully size its how much air is going in the engine because with the same size pully bigger s/c's force more air into the engine than smaller superchargers.
Again, pulley size on a blower absolutely dictates how much air is going into the motor...

The 3.1" pulley on a TVS isn't THAT much airflow to nuke a stock motor.

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you guys are losing the translation...
Lol, I'm just bored.

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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 09:22 PM
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the tune was your issue, hands down, no questions about it.

stock motors (mine included) have survived far harsher environments, and power levels.

you were on a fairly large pulley as well.

none the less, i'd forge her. Its easy to do and leads to plenty of fun once your done.

dual coated diamonds, new rings, fresh hone, head studs, and head work/cams if you have the cash.

get her re-tuned ASAP once shes back together.

good luck!
dont say that brian physcosteve tuned him...
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Raven SS
dont say that brian physcosteve tuned him...
Indeed it is...
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 09:31 PM
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[QUOTE=WSFrazier;3006464]Again, pulley size on a blower absolutely dictates how much air is going into the motor...

The 3.1" pulley on a TVS isn't THAT much airflow to nuke a stock motor.

your a ****** retard. 20 psi on the stock headgasket is alot of pressure people have blown headgaskets running less.
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 09:33 PM
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your a ****** retard. 20 psi on the stock headgasket is alot of pressure people have blown headgaskets running less.
yet people are running 24-26 psi turbo'd with no problems on said head gasket huh numb nuttz?
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by supermantxz24
Again, pulley size on a blower absolutely dictates how much air is going into the motor...

The 3.1" pulley on a TVS isn't THAT much airflow to nuke a stock motor.

your a ****** retard. 20 psi on the stock headgasket is alot of pressure people have blown headgaskets running less.
/sigh...

Where does boost come from? Airflow restriction... Where does that airflow come from? The blower! Now stick with me here, how do we determine how much airflow is going to come out of that blower? OMG das PULLEY!
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by WSFrazier
Indeed it is...
No its not brian its steve (psykostevo) the same guy who writes all the tech articles for gmroadster. He also tuned 13 other cars on Oct 4th along with this one no other cars has had any problems.
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by WSFrazier
/sigh...

Where does boost come from? Airflow restriction... Where does that airflow come from? The blower! Now stick with me here, how do we determine how much airflow is going to come out of that blower? OMG das PULLEY!


Originally Posted by jwhitten
No its not brian its steve (psykostevo) the same guy who writes all the tech articles for gmroadster. He also tuned 13 other cars on Oct 4th along with this one no other cars has had any problems.
we know this..brian was the guy i quoted...who was talking about the tune....which steve provided

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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jwhitten
No its not brian its steve (psykostevo) the same guy who writes all the tech articles for gmroadster. He also tuned 13 other cars on Oct 4th along with this one no other cars has had any problems.
I don't wanna start ****, but lol... I've heard about some of his tunes.
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 09:57 PM
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if you put a 3.1in pully on a whipple, eaton,tvs ect... they are all going to force different pressure into the engine and they are all diff liters. its the size of the rotors and how much compressed air is forced into the engine not just the pully if it was just pullys that made the car go all superchargers would be the same. its the internals of the blower not just the pully itself thats why the tvs forces more are than the stock eaton. and you ask Where does boost come from? Airflow restriction? no its airflow pressure into the engine. and raven ss supercharged cars and turbo cars are diff you cant compare the two
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 09:58 PM
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I don't wanna start ****, but lol... I've heard about some of his tunes.
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by supermantxz24
if you put a 3.1in pully on a whipple, eaton,tvs ect... they are all going to force different pressure into the engine and they are all diff liters. its the size of the rotors and how much compressed air is forced into the engine not just the pully if it was just pullys that made the car go all superchargers would be the same. its the internals of the blower not just the pully itself thats why the tvs forces more are than the stock eaton. and you ask Where does boost come from? Airflow restriction? no its airflow pressure into the engine.
Technically it's an airflow restriction. It would be impossible to build boost without a restriction.
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by supermantxz24
if you put a 3.1in pully on a whipple, eaton,tvs ect... they are all going to force different pressure into the engine and they are all diff liters. its the size of the rotors and how much compressed air is forced into the engine not just the pully if it was just pullys that made the car go all superchargers would be the same. its the internals of the blower not just the pully itself thats why the tvs forces more are than the stock eaton. and you ask Where does boost come from? Airflow restriction? no its airflow pressure into the engine.
sorry but ur wrong...thats like saying a 16g pushes more cfm than a gt42r cuz its boosting 37psi and a gt42r is only boosting 8psi..thanks for the new sig tho

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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by supermantxz24
if you put a 3.1in pully on a whipple, eaton,tvs ect... they are all going to force different pressure into the engine and they are all diff liters. its the size of the rotors and how much compressed air is forced into the engine not just the pully if it was just pullys that made the car go all superchargers would be the same. its the internals of the blower not just the pully itself thats why the tvs forces more are than the stock eaton. and you ask Where does boost come from? Airflow restriction? no its airflow pressure into the engine.
Lol, we aren't talking about all these other blowers. This is a TVS car, so that is what we are speaking of. Where did I say anything about any other blowers?

As far as the rest of your statement... The TVS is roots blower, not a twinscrew. It isn't shooting out compressed air, it just stacks it. ******* idiot. Where do you think boost comes from. Like, zomg, airflow restriction?
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 10:11 PM
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Lol, we aren't talking about all these other blowers. This is a TVS car, so that is what we are speaking of. Where did I say anything about any other blowers?

As far as the rest of your statement... The TVS is roots blower, not a twinscrew. It isn't shooting out compressed air, it just stacks it. ******* idiot. Where do you think boost comes from. Like, zomg, airflow restriction?
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 10:16 PM
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so a 3.1 on a tvs forces the same psi as a 3.1 on the stock blower????
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