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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 01:24 AM
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I have 17s and I rubbed on cm
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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 01:29 AM
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I have 17s and I rubbed on cm
FE3 or FE5 suspension? Did the wheels rub in the front or rear? How many miles on the struts and shocks when lowering?
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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 01:38 AM
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I have 17s and I rubbed on cm
You must have some decent size tires on there then
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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 02:05 AM
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Fe3. Tires are 245/45/17. Only rubbed when I turned. So I guess the front.

Stock struts and shocks. 91k miles

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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 01:54 PM
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I know bump stops have nothing to do with ride height, I just see a lot of "too cut or not" thread so I preemptively posted what I did on my install.

Also, on the stock 18's, I do get some fender liner rub under heard turns, no big deal though. The tire will take what it wants and the rest can stay lol.
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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 01:58 PM
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Cutting bump stops also decrease ride quality.
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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 02:13 PM
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Is it me, or does mine seem to look a little higher than most others even after a couple months of settling? Don't mind my dirty ass wheels btw.... lol

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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 02:18 PM
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Rear looks a little high
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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 02:21 PM
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yeah that's what I'm saying! I think the front end is perfect, but I'm not really crazy about the rake it has.

Oh and even with 245/35's I've never had any issues with rubbing
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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 02:22 PM
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Ya the front looks like mine. How long have they been on
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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 02:31 PM
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I did them around mid July. I couldn't imagine them not being fully settled by now.

Here is how they looked the day I did then..

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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 03:17 PM
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Alot of people say these springs don't settle. Mine are the same height as the day I put them on.
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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 05:05 PM
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Mine look relatively similar, maybe a touch lower. I think we all wish they were a bit lower but honestly, any spring that is lower will upset handling and ride quality. At least we maintain stock on both accounts while getting some drop. The bind on some springs like sportlines is hilarious, there is hardly any suspension travel at all.

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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 06:25 PM
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My car is pretty leveled
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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by chevygirl2006
Fe3. Tires are 245/45/17. Only rubbed when I turned. So I guess the front.

Stock struts and shocks. 91k miles
Rear could rub when the car bottoms out (i.e. running into a pot hole or something). That is pretty wide compared to stock...

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Cutting bump stops also decrease ride quality.
NOT cutting them could decrease ride quality. Some spring manufacturers recommend you cut them (H&R for example on some cars)... All cutting does is prevent bottoming out so soon since your total travel is decreased.

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Is it me, or does mine seem to look a little higher than most others even after a couple months of settling? Don't mind my dirty ass wheels btw.... lol
Question might sound stupid, but you didn't install your rear springs backwards, did you?

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yeah that's what I'm saying! I think the front end is perfect, but I'm not really crazy about the rake it has.

Oh and even with 245/35's I've never had any issues with rubbing
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any spring that is lower will upset handling and ride quality. At least we maintain stock on both accounts while getting some drop.
Sounds contradicting, man... If it's ANY spring, CM is included, right? Then how is it maintained stock?

I experienced similar "stock feel" on my RX-8 after lowering it on H&Rs, but apparently according to people on this site they're crappy springs. I thought they were great, but then again, I'm not Wangspeed or one of these guys that track their cars and push them to their very limits, so they might have worked better for me because of that.
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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 09:28 PM
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Putting the rear springs upside down won't make the car sit higher. Mine were originally put in upside down. I flipped then and it's the exact same ride height. It just rides better now

I was always told to not cut bump stops from multiple people on here

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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 09:32 PM
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I had CM Springs before I went Pedders loved em. But I prefer the ride quality of Pedders more
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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by vahdyx
I had CM Springs before I went Pedders loved em. But I prefer the ride quality of Pedders more
What was the difference in drop between the two?
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Old Oct 30, 2012 | 01:22 AM
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Sounds contradicting, man... If it's ANY spring, CM is included, right? Then how is it maintained stock?

I experienced similar "stock feel" on my RX-8 after lowering it on H&Rs, but apparently according to people on this site they're crappy springs. I thought they were great, but then again, I'm not Wangspeed or one of these guys that track their cars and push them to their very limits, so they might have worked better for me because of that.
It isn't contradicting because they aren't that low. If you want to nit pick I could have said MOST. Many lowering springs have terrible rates in order to cope with going so low, they also bind like crazy. CM springs keep similar stock spring rates and don't have that crazy bind. So you are able to find ones out there that are lower, but that low comes at a price.

Pedders vs CM are the following: Pedders perform better and ride better. CM are cheaper, lower and behave close to stock.
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Old Oct 30, 2012 | 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by nobody2u
It isn't contradicting because they aren't that low. If you want to nit pick I could have said MOST. Many lowering springs have terrible rates in order to cope with going so low, they also bind like crazy. CM springs keep similar stock spring rates and don't have that crazy bind. So you are able to find ones out there that are lower, but that low comes at a price.

Pedders vs CM are the following: Pedders perform better and ride better. CM are cheaper, lower and behave close to stock.
Makes sense. Thank you.
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Old Oct 30, 2012 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by serega12
What was the difference in drop between the two?
Originally Posted by nobody2u
It isn't contradicting because they aren't that low. If you want to nit pick I could have said MOST. Many lowering springs have terrible rates in order to cope with going so low, they also bind like crazy. CM springs keep similar stock spring rates and don't have that crazy bind. So you are able to find ones out there that are lower, but that low comes at a price.

Pedders vs CM are the following: Pedders perform better and ride better. CM are cheaper, lower and behave close to stock.
Basically what he said. I went from Eibach Sportlines to CM Springs to Pedders.

Eibachs were rough and I hated it! When they were working on the highway in my city, they had what looked like a 2" incline of new pavement and hitting it at 60 MPH felt like I needed to get new shocks and check every aspect of my car. I'm sure it sounded worse than it actually was, but I hated it.

CM Springs had better ride than Eibach for sure, but I had forgot what stock feels like so I couldn't reference it now or then.

The only reason why I left CM springs was because I heard how nice the ride was with Pedders and said WTF I'll give it a go. Sure enough, it was night and day compared to CM Springs. I can't imagine what it'd feel like if I went Eibachs to Pedders.

I love my pedders, they're not nearly as low as CM springs, but the ride makes up for that for me. The back end almost looks stock, but the front is lower. If you look at my sig it'll show my pedders and here's a video of my CM Springs

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Old Oct 30, 2012 | 11:13 AM
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How do you like the Mpx catback? I'm debating between theirs and Turboxs's. Both with mufflers.
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Old Oct 30, 2012 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by serega12
How wide of a tire are you running? Are upgrading your struts to Koni's or going with another pair of FE5's?
I will be upgrading to the Koni. The stock FE5 rear strut, according to Powell, is the weak link in our car. He said that the fronts are fine. I have a 235/35/19

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You definitely shouldn't have any rubbing issues with 19's and cm's, unless you are running a ridiculous tire size lol
Once I replace the strut I think it will be alright. Manufacturers claim that the suspension needs to be replaced every 75-100K. My car has almost 95,000Km on it. I've read of people using a 245 tire and getting away with it. I don't see why mine is giving me a problem. Mine only does it when I have people sitting in the back seat.
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Old Oct 30, 2012 | 01:16 PM
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Ya. When I bought my car 245s were on it.
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How do you like the Mpx catback? I'm debating between theirs and Turboxs's. Both with mufflers.
go turboxs!
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