Great points, think about how many times you're on the road and you see a Cobalt. Like me you speed up to catch them, hoping maybe its somene you know from meets or it has some cool mods. I'll never forget one time I was on the highway and I saw a black 2.4 SS Sedan ahead of me, I gunned it to catch up, I always wanted to see how my lightly modded 2.2 would hold up with a 2.4 Sedan. I roll up next to it... and its a 60-something year old women and her friends. I was a little upset so I ricer fly by-ed them and went home. The point of the story is.. look at non SS/SC cobalt drivers... the vast majority have very ittle interest in any kind of modification nvm tuning.

 

Bench tuning? WTF would you know about my car or what i've done to it. Yeah alpine started it but thats about it. While your crying for the easy way out(which will never come) ill be running the streets/track with some power.

Exactly... Do you people know how much it cost Garrett to pay SCT for the tune they currently have? About $100k. Thats a lot of money to spend for a small group of people. Now hopefully they will get their act together and release the tune to SCT's custom tuning software so at least us Manual guys can tune our cars, or auto guys without a tranny tune.

 

i say just forget bout ever gettin an easy way to tune cuz i really doubt it ever happens.. dont get me wrong i want it too but i really truley doubt it ever happens..

 

it won't. it's time to look into other alternatives. they're there, and HAVE been for a while. sw4y, and some other members have been runing supers and turbos for a while now. saying "there's no tuning" is a pretty lame excuse in my opinion. there's ways to go about it, people just don't want to do it. it comes down to what i was saying earlier, people don't want to spend the money on it. if you DID want to spend the money on it, you WOULD have a turbo and a solution for tuning.

 

I don't see why SCT doesn't release the tuning capability to their software, obviously they've cracked the tune if they made one for Garrett.

 

Garrett owns the rights and they have yet to allow SCT to release the tune.

Thats what i've been saying. People on here can talk the talk, but dont walk the walk. If you really were going to boost your car, you would have by now. Stop the crying and grow some ***** people!

 

Makes sense, in that case I don't see why Garrett would ever allow SCT to release the tune. If I fronted $100,000 for those rights I'd like a monopoly on them as well.

 

just so you guys know efi live has the 2.2l on their list of future supported engines. who knows when that will be though

 

There was a thread on their forum started about that and they have said they dont have ANY plans to support the 2.2. Or at least E16a.

 

eflive is actually in the works for the 2.2 i been in contact with them, they are doing testing right now.. i didnt get to ask which ecm, the 05-06 or 07.. they gave me a number for the guy who is doing it.. but havnt called, been really busy lately..

there is tuning for us 2.2 auto and manuals..

greddys e-manage ultimate which tunes auto trannys also and greddy verified it for me..

there is also a auto tranny tuner out that hooks in, its like 700 bucks though..

there are a few piggybacks other than what i listed..

also clear image is talking about coming out with tuning for our cars and i am keeping in contact with them also.. i wont have the turbo for awhile so i got time to gather everything and wait on the tune.. but when clear image releases the tuning device for our cars ::basically like hptuners:: i am buying it guarenteed.. everyone has seen my threads and posts on tuning, i am just waiting and buying other parts to the time being.. the day something like hptuners comes out, i sell my fender guitar and send a check out period..

but if not by the time i receive the turbo, greddy will get a sale for the emanage ultimate..

but like i said i got time..

 

I've given up on waiting for tuning for this ECU

I've done everything I've planned to with this car to date so I know whether I am or aren't serious.

It puts a little damper on my plans because to get the same effect for the mods I really wanna do I have to go standalone.

However I've already decided I'm going to go piggyback, just undecided on which one. I'll then keep this car as a DD before going too wild and start another project with more resources available.

 

Just get the AEM FIC like I did and call it a day.

 

Just repeating what i saw on yc.com....dont get your panties in a bunch...everyone lies sometimes

 

What's wrong with piggybacks again?

 

nothing really...some get a bad rep for being unreliable...it's just a matter of preference and mine is w/ a re flash

 

nothing. it comes down to people don't actually want to spend the money on forced induction. they just want to bitch about not having tuning.

 

your such a tool...

 

is it not the truth? if you want to turbo your 2.2 there's not one reason why you can't do it. unless you don't have the money, or don't want to spend the money.

i don't get why you're being so defensive in this thread, i didn't say anything that was untrue.

tell me one legit reason besides money that you CAN'T safely and effectively turbo a 2.2 right now.

 

I actually wanna go all motor...but WTF you know what i think before i think it right?

 

no, i said nothing about going na. i said turbo. again, why are you getting so defensive?

 

Well....this is a rant thread. secondly how do you know what i can afford or anyone else for that matter...i just think it's such a generic and ignorant comment...

 

how is it ignorant? if you can afford a turbo, and want a turbo, why wouldn't you get it?

 

WTF did i just say? I wanna go N/A...see what happens when you make assumptions??? But there are people who can afford a turbo but cant get a reflash so i'm sure they're pissed to

 

its ok D4. you knew youd get flamed for sayin it.
but its plain to see the truth.
and HP tuners sees it too......

 

he's not getting flamed for telling the truth...he's not wrong i see the point...it's the assumptions...