This thread is full of keyboard racers. No one except for a FEW people have actually taken the time to DO ANYTHING to their cars.

Every ******* thread I read about "oh I plan on turbo in the future" blah blah bullshit!!!!!!!!

How many of the 100s of those threads actually DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT?

They come here ask questions, smack talk a bunch and then disapear when people start asking them for proof if they've actually followed through with their plans.

I'm sick and tire of threads like this. People need to shut the hell up, use the search button and ONLY post PROGRESS. NOT QUESTIONS ANYMORE!

There are a million threads about "possibly going turbo/ S/C'd" and only about 0.1% of the people who start them actually do.

Show up or shut up!

 

lol u must be refering to him just getting off line after the e muscle question

 

good shait let them batiboys know how it is.....

 

Group Hug Anyone ?

 

i see a locked thread coming to a town near you lol

seriously there is quite a bit of tuning for our cars..

SMT-7
SMT-6
E-manage ultimate (tunes auto trannys also)
AEM FIC
Some other new tuner that can be bought with a auto tranny tuner.
Hahn turbo kit with the reflash

I mean thats 6 ways of tuning right there.. isnt that enough.. so what its a piggyback, i have seen many high performance cars with piggybacks like 1100hp supras and other cars.. i went on to evo forums and seen plenty of people with them.. just be careful and watch your car and youd be fine.. right now we have no choice, we dont got hptuners and probably never will, but that doesnt mean your out of tuning.

 

this guy deserves a group hug.....

 

Relivant question,





For a beasty N/A is computer tuning required? I am in school for this but havent really gotten this deep into mods, only repair.

 

i want boost! but I'm not about to go that route with a piggyback

project car FTW!

 

i dont need a group hug my fiancee is laying beside me, i get all the hugs and other stuff

ion, i will also keep you updated as i been talking to clear image, they are going to be doing a tune for the 2.2's.. and its bascially hptuners, plug goes into the diagnostic port.. if your like me in my build we got some time..

 

sounds like fun

 

hehe yes it is

 

Hey guys,

First of all, half of those things you listed are more of a hassle to use for tuning than they are worth. Just like many other people I dont have the kind of money to get the hahn turbo kit. By tuning, we are talking about a handheld device that can plug into the OBDII port, that can in turn, change the computer's settings, such as "timing advance, higher octane fuel, rev limiter, shift points" and ect.. Just like any of the hypertech modules or predator modules. 2nd of all, The AEM FIC is for RETARDING the timing not advancing. This is for people that are putting a supercharger or a turbocharger on their car. In other words it does absolutly no good to get this because if your not able to advance the timing than what's the point. The best form of tuning that we could possibly ever get would be HP tuners, or SCT. I have every bolt on they make for the cobalt, but without tuning, some things are useless. All i need is something to advance the timing and make it run on 93 octane and that alone would give you probably another 20 to 30 horsepower. To say that you can just go buy the turbo kit is not practical at all. We need something that is more simple than that.

 

uhh ever hear of the greddy emanage ultimate, does rev limiter, governor, auto tuning and stuff.. timing and all.. if its to much work then dont tune cause if you want the easy way out you aint gonna get it.. we dont get handheld tuners. we get piggybacks. plain and simple, if you dont want to do it, then you aint tuning nothing then i guess..
dont have the money for the turbo?? if you want any REAL power fromt these 2.2's you either go high compression, supercharger, or turbocharger.. a tune isnt going to give you 30hp on just bolt ons like intake and exhaust.. .. people with all the bolt ons on our cars are hitting 140ish, and with your 30hp tune, thats over 170. hptuners and piggybacks are still the same price bascially..

you aint gonna get practical with our car, and buying a turbo is practical.. why spend 700 on tuning a car with just a exhaust and intake??? id rather by the turbo, new pistons and rods, boost the hell out of it, and have it tuned properly.. i dont see any point in uping the timing on a stock car..

the car aint going to denonate with just a exhaust and intake lol.. so your just wasting gas and tuning..

if your going to wine about tuning, do some more research as AEM IS NOT your only option..

 

Dude, the greddy emanage ultimate doesn't even have support for the cobalt. Even if it was a universal device, it defeats the purpose. Its not made specifically for the 2.2. How do you not see a point in advancing the timing? That's how you get more power out of it. The faster you can get the fuel to detonate, then the more power. Anyhow the point is they make all these other tuning devices for every other car but not for the 2.2's. I believe rather than just assuming we will never have handheld devices we should work together more and get at these company's more often so they will make one. Our ECU is very restrictive. Once it is "opened", it has a great potential for power. If you understand it has, i believe about 4 different fuel trims when running the car. The closest thing I have ever came to a tune was the Jet performance GM module which they didn't design right so they are "revising" it currently to fit the ECU. I tryed one sometime last year and it didnt fit right so i had to send it back.

 

I have 3500 dollars in the bank just waiting for something... i am waiting for tuning and really dont want to do the piggyback thing but will if i have to.


what i dont get is that there is tuning for mini vans, how many of those to people buy for speed... the 2.2 is a great motor. GM is dumb for putting the e16a in anycar.

 

the AEM is made specifically for turbo/supercharged motors, that is why there is no advance timing feature. Besides, when making the kind of fuel adjustments needed on an FI motor, the stock ECU tends to advance timing on its own. If you are looking to advance timing then the SMT-7 is more of what you are looking for.

you are about 3 years late on this one, every major company has been approached about tuning for the ECU and we have all been told there is no interest in this project from their end. the reason why you see some oddball vehicles with support is because they are lucky enough to have an ECU that is used in a popular platform. our ECUs were produced in a limited selection of vehicles, none of which are considered "popular."

the best thing we can hope for is for some newer vehicle to start using the E16a ECU and thats doubtful...

also it doesn't help that we are the bottom of the totem pole as far as performance for the 3 available models either. sucks, but that is the way it is unfortunately...you can't wait around forever so people are going other routes.

hell, for example SRT-4's are JUST now getting ECU tuning from a company...they have been tuning with piggybacks or standalone this entire time and look at the popularity of that platform. Based on that, I'd say we have a long wait ahead of us

 

let me also say i know there will never be tuning for my car, that is why i am looking a all the ecotec ecu's and what i can do to swap one out, i know i get told all the time, you cant do it. but never say never i will find something it may take money and time, but hell i am 22 this month i got time and i have money too

 

I'll put a Deposit On Software Right now If some one steps up.

 

uhh greddy confirmed that the ultimate works on our car... its been proven on a few forums for it working on the cavy ecotecs..

greddys head tech told me if would work.. and remember the AEM FIC is universel as the emanage one is.. so why wouldnt it work??

i dont need to advance timing, i am gonna be running turbo..

 

what about the 07's we dont even have the same ECU as you earlier guys...07's have the E37 you 05-06 guys have the E16A i believe???

 

you have HP Tuners GTFO

 

the 2007s do not have hptuners... hptuners didnt no release it yet nor did they give a time frame..

 

Check with Vector Motorsports on the '07 and up E37.

They announced a solution a few days ago.

 

I have just got done pming clear imaging.. and i will be the first out of stage tester for there hand held tuner for our 2.2s..

they have 2 in state 2.2s that are being used for testing, but i will be the first out of stage tester..

i will be getting an update in 2 weeks.. so i will keep everyone informed..

From what all i know, it is similar to hptuners, and hooks into the obd-II port, and has a hand held tuner like hahns sct tuner..

this is a great step for everyone waiting on a ecu tune instead of piggyback and i look forward to testing this out and giving everyone results..

 

where do you get off saying this will be 700$/person..hp tuners does not cost you 700....why would we pay so much more per person...its 649 for the FULL suite w/ the pro package...which most of us would not be buying...in fact most of us wouldnt even buy it necc but be able to use it at a tuning shop...the demand is there...we are willing to pay for this...and the market would get bigger as the product was there...