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Old 06-04-2014, 11:57 AM
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How to tell if dealer flashed hp tuned car back to stock?

A post by another member had me thinking. I have a GM stage 2 pulley and GM stage 2 injectors, but I tuned my car myself using hp tuners. This was over five years ago.

Is there any way to tell if the dealer somehow used a tech 2 to flash the car back to stock? Would it throw a code?

Just curious. This might help others out as well.

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Good question for those who are going to be bringing their cars to dealers for the recall :X
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It runs like poo, iirc the stage injectors are 42lbs/min vs 32 or 34lbs/min.
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need to compare the old tune to current tune
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
need to compare the old tune to current tune
Hard to do, I sold my hpt program after I tuned the car. lol

How bad will it run? I think I still have the tune on my PCM because my fans come on early. Coolant never goes above 180, stock they didn't come on until 220 iirc.
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Originally Posted by chris88z24
A post by another member had me thinking. I have a GM stage 2 pulley and GM stage 2 injectors, but I tuned my car myself using hp tuners. This was over five years ago.

Is there any way to tell if the dealer somehow used a tech 2 to flash the car back to stock? Would it throw a code?

Just curious. This might help others out as well.

Thanks.
Save your tune.
Flash an OEM tune on your car.
Report how it runs.
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I think a red flag w/o even checking the tune parameters would be your over all rev limit.

Almost all GMS2 tunes rev to 7k (some were backed down to 6.5k later on).

Have a dealer hook up a tech 2. They should be able to tell from that if the PCM has been flashed.
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Originally Posted by Staged07SS
I think a red flag w/o even checking the tune parameters would be your over all rev limit. Almost all GMS2 tunes rev to 7k (some were backed down to 6.5k later on). Have a dealer hook up a tech 2. They should be able to tell from that if the PCM has been flashed.
Good call. Still revs to 7k as of yesterday lol.
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Originally Posted by chris88z24
Good call. Still revs to 7k as of yesterday lol.
You should be good then.
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So my part came in. They said they have to reprogram the anti-theft but that the PCM remains untouched. Several hours to do the procedure and no loaner car to get back to work.

Almost ready to say **** it - not even worth the time.
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Originally Posted by chris88z24
So my part came in. They said they have to reprogram the anti-theft but that the PCM remains untouched. Several hours to do the procedure and no loaner car to get back to work.

Almost ready to say **** it - not even worth the time.
I'm contemplating if I want them to touch my car as well.

Good to hear they dont reflash the PCM, or they would be buying me a new GMRS3 PCM haha.
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They would tell you they cant get them anymore
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Originally Posted by BlackSSstg2
They would tell you they cant get them anymore
and I would laugh at them, and have Tom from CED get in touch with them.

I have no worries, my dealership is half decent, and I know some of the guys.
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I guarantee you I will drop the car off and pick it up with 10+ miles on the odo. I'm calling it now.
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Originally Posted by chris88z24
I guarantee you I will drop the car off and pick it up with 10+ miles on the odo. I'm calling it now.
I would tell them right before you leave the car to not drive it, and that you have a record of the mileage.

For the power steering recall a few years back, I sat and waited for the car. They brought it right out for me once they were finished. No test ride. I think they know I'm nuts, lol.

I had a guy so nervous installing tires once, he forgot to give me a free alignment check, haha.
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