Tuning For tuning and related discussions

MAF tuning

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 18, 2008 | 06:15 PM
  #126  
Pully Police's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 02-05-06
Posts: 727
Likes: 0
From: Kakabeka Falls, Ontario
Originally Posted by BlackSS/SC
I know that before I always used to tune VE. Not that I've gone turbo I just wanted to tune the MAF so it was drivable and then do the VE later. Now I don't think I'll even touch the VE because it's smooth as hell.
Touch VE - touch it alot. If - WHEN your maf fails, you will pat yourself on the back for not popping your engine.
Reply
Old Mar 18, 2008 | 06:16 PM
  #127  
Area47's Avatar
Rent me! per hour
 
Joined: 03-22-07
Posts: 24,161
Likes: 20
From: Still fixing others mistakes.
for the 05-06 you can leave the maf and ve tables alone if you're doing 42lbers. they will be fine. cruise won't freak. once you get to 60's minor tweeks here and there to either one will be fine. the cruise won't **** itself and you won't throw a p0068 code.

07's have the 68 code shut off factory, so my ve table looks like *****
Reply
Old Mar 18, 2008 | 06:18 PM
  #128  
BlackSS/SC's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 07-18-05
Posts: 2,130
Likes: 0
From: Canada eh!
Oh and mine's an 05 and cruise control works fine.

***** FTMFW!

Last edited by BlackSS/SC; Mar 18, 2008 at 06:18 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Reply
Old Mar 18, 2008 | 06:19 PM
  #129  
Raven SS's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 09-05-07
Posts: 10,662
Likes: 0
From: Sasebo Japan
mmmmm..(__.__)(__.__)
Reply
Old Mar 18, 2008 | 06:21 PM
  #130  
Kaisoboy's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 12-20-06
Posts: 2,379
Likes: 0
From: Calgary, AB Canada
Originally Posted by Raven SS
did u copy and paste that? im telling u from experiance on alot of cars...so are the other 2 (area and black) ve doesnt effect our cars..but if u tune it good on u because if my maf fails ur golden...but dont expect to tune ve and pull 20hp outta it
I was not expecting any HP out of tuning the VE. I was more expecting that that it would smooth things out. I also don't mind spending the time on it. No I did not cut and paist that. It was just what I'm thinking.
Reply
Old Mar 18, 2008 | 06:24 PM
  #131  
Raven SS's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 09-05-07
Posts: 10,662
Likes: 0
From: Sasebo Japan
Originally Posted by Kaisoboy
I was not expecting any HP out of tuning the VE. I was more expecting that that it would smooth things out. I also don't mind spending the time on it. No I did not cut and paist that. It was just what I'm thinking.
i didnt mean nothing by it..just wondering where u got the info from (if it was from another forum) ur not going to feel it from tuning ve..but like stated it would be a nice warm fuzzy if ur maf fails
Reply
Old Mar 18, 2008 | 06:33 PM
  #132  
Kaisoboy's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 12-20-06
Posts: 2,379
Likes: 0
From: Calgary, AB Canada
Originally Posted by Raven SS
i didnt mean nothing by it..just wondering where u got the info from (if it was from another forum) ur not going to feel it from tuning ve..but like stated it would be a nice warm fuzzy if ur maf fails
No offence taken

Well...I'm a petroleum engineer and deal in volumetrics all the time. I just find it hard to believe that they would put this table in and all it does is hang out until one day his buddy the MAF fails.
Reply
Old Mar 18, 2008 | 06:41 PM
  #133  
BlackSS/SC's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 07-18-05
Posts: 2,130
Likes: 0
From: Canada eh!
I really don't think it makes much, if any difference. But if I had the time and didn't mind putting the gas in then I'd probably do it just for the hell of it.
Reply
Old Mar 18, 2008 | 10:59 PM
  #134  
SJSchafer's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 05-02-07
Posts: 1,061
Likes: 0
From: San Jose, CA
First of all, our VE isn't true volumetric efficiency, so it really doesn't make huge ammounts of difference. It does make some though. Is it worth the extra time and fuel? It is to me, but I am OCD. I keep my long trims pretty much at =/-2%. I do notice that, although the idle is smooth, with a screwed VE table, my short trims will bounce from +3 to -5 in one cell. With my VE nailed I get +1 to -2 in the same cell. To most people, that's not even worth dicking with it. To me it is.
Reply
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 01:13 AM
  #135  
Kaisoboy's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 12-20-06
Posts: 2,379
Likes: 0
From: Calgary, AB Canada
I agree. If your going to do something right you may as well go all the way.
Reply
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 10:53 AM
  #136  
Raven SS's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 09-05-07
Posts: 10,662
Likes: 0
From: Sasebo Japan
Originally Posted by SJSchafer
First of all, our VE isn't true volumetric efficiency, so it really doesn't make huge ammounts of difference. It does make some though. Is it worth the extra time and fuel? It is to me, but I am OCD. I keep my long trims pretty much at =/-2%. I do notice that, although the idle is smooth, with a screwed VE table, my short trims will bounce from +3 to -5 in one cell. With my VE nailed I get +1 to -2 in the same cell. To most people, that's not even worth dicking with it. To me it is.
i love u steve lol
Reply
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 10:58 AM
  #137  
Kaisoboy's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 12-20-06
Posts: 2,379
Likes: 0
From: Calgary, AB Canada
haha....
Reply
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 11:05 AM
  #138  
Raven SS's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 09-05-07
Posts: 10,662
Likes: 0
From: Sasebo Japan
kaisoboy steve is very smart...and is prolly most of the best tuners fuel guy...pick his brain and u will be educated

and i thought i would point this out from the tech support for our car...

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...2&postcount=11

Last edited by Raven SS; Mar 19, 2008 at 11:05 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Reply
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 11:10 AM
  #139  
Pickles's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 08-08-07
Posts: 1,641
Likes: 0
From: Calgary, Alberta
Originally Posted by Raven SS
kaisoboy steve is very smart...and is prolly most of the best tuners fuel guy...pick his brain and u will be educated

and i thought i would point this out from the tech support for our car...

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...2&postcount=11
Makes sense. Thats pretty much what we figured was tuning ve for regular cruising, part throttle, driving etc.
Reply
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 11:13 AM
  #140  
Area47's Avatar
Rent me! per hour
 
Joined: 03-22-07
Posts: 24,161
Likes: 20
From: Still fixing others mistakes.
Originally Posted by SJSchafer
First of all, our VE isn't true volumetric efficiency, so it really doesn't make huge ammounts of difference. It does make some though. Is it worth the extra time and fuel? It is to me, but I am OCD. I keep my long trims pretty much at =/-2%. I do notice that, although the idle is smooth, with a screwed VE table, my short trims will bounce from +3 to -5 in one cell. With my VE nailed I get +1 to -2 in the same cell. To most people, that's not even worth dicking with it. To me it is.
i have told you that from day one!!!!!!!!
Reply
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 11:44 AM
  #141  
Kaisoboy's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 12-20-06
Posts: 2,379
Likes: 0
From: Calgary, AB Canada
Hey guys. It’s all good. If you don't want to bother with VE tuning then don't. I don't mind burning a tank of fuel to try it out. I am not disagreeing with anyone. knowledge is power and I have gained valuable info from all of you. Tuning these cars is almost an art and I'm just trying to gather all the info I can to perfect that art.

Thanks again for all your input into this.
Reply
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 11:46 AM
  #142  
Raven SS's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 09-05-07
Posts: 10,662
Likes: 0
From: Sasebo Japan
yup yup
Reply
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 11:52 AM
  #143  
Kaisoboy's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 12-20-06
Posts: 2,379
Likes: 0
From: Calgary, AB Canada
Hey, does anyone have the specs on the seimens 42 lb stage 2 injectors?
Reply
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 11:54 AM
  #144  
Area47's Avatar
Rent me! per hour
 
Joined: 03-22-07
Posts: 24,161
Likes: 20
From: Still fixing others mistakes.
i am an artist. i paint with a shotgun and a sledgehammer.

Originally Posted by Kaisoboy
Hey, does anyone have the specs on the seimens 42 lb stage 2 injectors?
i has them

in a hpt map


Last edited by Area47; Mar 19, 2008 at 11:54 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Reply
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 12:02 PM
  #145  
Pickles's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 08-08-07
Posts: 1,641
Likes: 0
From: Calgary, Alberta
Originally Posted by Kaisoboy
Hey, does anyone have the specs on the seimens 42 lb stage 2 injectors?
Aren't they Lucas injectors?


Originally Posted by Area47
i has them

in a hpt map

ifr's and offsets?
Reply
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 12:10 PM
  #146  
Raven SS's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 09-05-07
Posts: 10,662
Likes: 0
From: Sasebo Japan
Originally Posted by neo01
Aren't they Lucas injectors?




ifr's and offsets?
hes not gonna tell u...
Reply
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 12:12 PM
  #147  
Kaisoboy's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 12-20-06
Posts: 2,379
Likes: 0
From: Calgary, AB Canada
I keep getting conflicting reports. Some say Lucas others say Siemens. I'm sooooooo cooonnnnffffuuuuusssseeeddd!!! LOL

Originally Posted by Raven SS
hes not gonna tell u...
why not?

Last edited by Kaisoboy; Mar 19, 2008 at 12:12 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Reply
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 12:14 PM
  #148  
Raven SS's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 09-05-07
Posts: 10,662
Likes: 0
From: Sasebo Japan
cuz its bryan..u have to work at him like a fine bitch with a chasity belt
Reply
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 12:14 PM
  #149  
Pully Police's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 02-05-06
Posts: 727
Likes: 0
From: Kakabeka Falls, Ontario
Originally Posted by Raven SS
hes not gonna tell u...
Well...then he should not say that he has them - thats like a rich kid waving his ice cream infront of the poor kids face
Reply
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 12:15 PM
  #150  
Area47's Avatar
Rent me! per hour
 
Joined: 03-22-07
Posts: 24,161
Likes: 20
From: Still fixing others mistakes.
untill im given the ok from someone, they will not be public info.
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:15 PM.