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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 04:10 PM
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i'm talking new parts to new part on an evo x to a ss/tc
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 04:13 PM
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i'm talking new parts to new part on an evo x to a ss/tc
o gotcha. Yea, Im not sure the prices on the X. I would assume they would be a bit pricier than what I would pay. Ebay is your best friend when modding.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 04:24 PM
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Well if you are looking to make a pure hp monster for as little as possible, you can't beat the fox body Mustang....but with that said, the Evo's are good tuner cars....but not that cheap once you want to break past the 11's....if your ultimate goal is no faster then mid to high 11's, the SS/TC is a far more cost effective vehicle to mod. (Taking into account car cost as well)
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 04:48 PM
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Well if you are looking to make a pure hp monster for as little as possible, you can't beat the fox body Mustang....but with that said, the Evo's are good tuner cars....but not that cheap once you want to break past the 11's....if your ultimate goal is no faster then mid to high 11's, the SS/TC is a far more cost effective vehicle to mod. (Taking into account car cost as well)

you know it doesnt take much to get an evo into the 11's right? if your talking money spent on mods to get you into the 11's, the evo is cheaper.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 04:51 PM
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you know it doesnt take much to get an evo into the 11's right? if your talking money spent on mods to get you into the 11's, the evo is cheaper.
mid to low 11's are attainable on a stock turbo. I think hes referring to an evo x which is more pricey.

any pre x models would be able to make better times for cheaper considering you dont need a turbo upgrade.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 04:53 PM
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mid to low 11's are attainable on a stock turbo. I think hes referring to an evo x which is more pricey.

any pre x models would be able to make better times for cheaper considering you dont need a turbo upgrade.
sucks cuz im about to get a x. dealership is doing everything they can to get me a good trade on my car. or else i wont do it. they really wanna sell it though lol.


and i was looking at exhausts and wont just catbacks are over 700. yikes.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 04:56 PM
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sucks cuz im about to get a x. dealership is doing everything they can to get me a good trade on my car. or else i wont do it. they really wanna sell it though lol.


and i was looking at exhausts and wont just catbacks are over 700. yikes.
you can try ebay, but I really dont think that youll get good deals because its so new. Also, go register on evolutionm.net. Tons of good info. They even have a sticky called "modding your evo on a budget" or something around those lines. The stickies in those forums are worth their weight in gold.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BADSS/SC
you can try ebay, but I really dont think that youll get good deals because its so new. Also, go register on evolutionm.net. Tons of good info. They even have a sticky called "modding your evo on a budget" or something around those lines. The stickies in those forums are worth their weight in gold.
that is where i will be if i can get this deal done. if i cant get at the minimm 17k for this car i wont do it. bluebook is over that on trade in. they agreed with me and are gunna call around until they get the price i want haha.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 05:02 PM
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that is where i will be if i can get this deal done. if i cant get at the minimm 17k for this car i wont do it. bluebook is over that on trade in. they agreed with me and are gunna call around until they get the price i want haha.
very good. U missed a fun meet.

We did some illegal street racing.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 05:04 PM
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very good. U missed a fun meet.

We did some illegal street racing.

i was hammered at the bar. sorry sir. videos?
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 05:06 PM
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i was hammered at the bar. sorry sir. videos?
not yet, waiting on dave. Hes the AV guy.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 05:09 PM
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evolutionm.net is a decent site, packed with information, but i get a little tired of some of the members on there. a much more chill forum is evoxforums.com, but they are are a smaller site. the cheapest catbacks for the evo x are Tsudo and Megan, both in the 400 range. also, you will save a little money if you go single exit exhaust vs. dual. catless test pipes run about 125, downpipes everywhere from around 125 and up. you can find good upper intercooler pipes for under 200. silicone intake tubes are around 100. i got my UR UICP for like 150ish used, Perrin silicone intake tube for 75 used, K&N cone filter for 40, and an AMS flash for 500. right now i'm somewhere around 300-310 awhp just with those mods. getting my catless 3" dual exhaust and another flash will land me 330-340 awhp.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by mjesenovec
evolutionm.net is a decent site, packed with information, but i get a little tired of some of the members on there. a much more chill forum is evoxforums.com, but they are are a smaller site. the cheapest catbacks for the evo x are Tsudo and Megan, both in the 400 range. also, you will save a little money if you go single exit exhaust vs. dual. catless test pipes run about 125, downpipes everywhere from around 125 and up. you can find good upper intercooler pipes for under 200. silicone intake tubes are around 100. i got my UR UICP for like 150ish used, Perrin silicone intake tube for 75 used, K&N cone filter for 40, and an AMS flash for 500. right now i'm somewhere around 300-310 awhp just with those mods. getting my catless 3" dual exhaust and another flash will land me 330-340 awhp.

very nice. tune, buschur exhaust and intake would probably be all id want on the car. around 300 WHP is fine with me.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mjesenovec
evolutionm.net is a decent site, packed with information, but i get a little tired of some of the members on there. a much more chill forum is evoxforums.com, but they are are a smaller site. the cheapest catbacks for the evo x are Tsudo and Megan, both in the 400 range. also, you will save a little money if you go single exit exhaust vs. dual. catless test pipes run about 125, downpipes everywhere from around 125 and up. you can find good upper intercooler pipes for under 200. silicone intake tubes are around 100. i got my UR UICP for like 150ish used, Perrin silicone intake tube for 75 used, K&N cone filter for 40, and an AMS flash for 500. right now i'm somewhere around 300-310 awhp just with those mods. getting my catless 3" dual exhaust and another flash will land me 330-340 awhp.
All of the members have been cool to me so far. Hell one of the vendors nearby PM'd me asking if they could build my evo after I posted a thread about wanting to have a 450 whp evo that redlines at 9k.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike09SS
very nice. tune, buschur exhaust and intake would probably be all id want on the car. around 300 WHP is fine with me.
Nice. I have the Ultimate Racing UICP, Perrin Silicone Intake Tube, and K&N Cone

I will get a Speed-Circuit 3" test pipe, and eventually a Custom Performance Engineering (CP-E) catback. look for youtube vids of the CP-E. sounds AMAZING.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 05:41 PM
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well hit me up man you gunna be pwned I got NAWZ and an EVO 12 turd burgler edition its AWD will eat you man Im running like 70lbs boost on stock everything and yeah man My evo is so sweet wait till you see how 1337 it is !
Lol! nice! yeah Terminator2 said u could prolly help me out with the tuning process. you have HPTuners?
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike09SS
evo is and always will be a MUCH better car than the cobalt. you can slap any zzp kit on you want. run into a built evo and you will get embarassed.
chances of running into a built evo, are very slim, most people get them because they dont know how to build up a fast car or just dont want to spend money on making them fast..
all my car life i have seen one built up.. thats about it..
so i say cobalts own the evos =D

i know mine will one day haha,
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by LsBro07
chances of running into a built evo, are very slim, most people get them because they dont know how to build up a fast car or just dont want to spend money on making them fast..
all my car life i have seen one built up.. thats about it..
so i say cobalts own the evos =D

i know mine will one day haha,

You really dont have a clue do u? You must not know anything about cars. No built evo's huh?


http://forums.evolutionm.net/drag-racing-16/

9.75 @ 150 is really slow. Yea, so is 8.8 @ 165.

or how about this, stock turbo evo's:

http://forums.evolutionm.net/drag-ra...os-2009-a.html

real slow. No one knows how to build these at all.

2k will get you over 400 whp, and 400 whp is more than enough to smoke 99.99999% of the cobalts on this site in a drag race. You must live in africa, because most of the evo's on this site are running around 400 whp, and the ones in my area are running the same.


U should research before u post.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by LsBro07
chances of running into a built evo, are very slim, most people get them because they dont know how to build up a fast car or just dont want to spend money on making them fast..
all my car life i have seen one built up.. thats about it..
so i say cobalts own the evos =D

i know mine will one day haha,


chances of running into a built cobalt are way slimmer lol i know of 2 evos in my area with 500whp. you must live in the darkest corner of earth.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 06:31 PM
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chances of running into a built cobalt are way slimmer lol i know of 2 evos in my area with 500whp. you must live in the darkest corner of earth.
as I said, Africa. Maybe the ghetto?
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 10:41 PM
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i, hoesntly dont even know why the **** we are arguing.

I like the evo's you apparently hate cobalts?

i disagree that its not the best tuner car for the moeny you agree that it is?

is that what we can sum up from this thread?
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 08:11 AM
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No. I am sure this will be EVO>css.net for 1BAD for many moons to come. Its never his fault though... There has to be someone here to tell us how fail our cars etc... "turbo size" "Fail wheel drive" etc.
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 08:21 AM
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No. I am sure this will be EVO>css.net for 1BAD for many moons to come. Its never his fault though... There has to be someone here to tell us how fail our cars etc... "turbo size" "Fail wheel drive" etc.
yeah, i was thinking the same thing. first it was how his high and mighty caliber was so much better and easier to get HP out of and now its his evo...
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 10:35 AM
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i, hoesntly dont even know why the **** we are arguing.

I like the evo's you apparently hate cobalts?

i disagree that its not the best tuner car for the moeny you agree that it is?

is that what we can sum up from this thread?
You don't think what isn't the best tuner car for the money? You have to go by new car prices of course, we all know you can get a modified car for cheap used. If you are talking about the evo not being the best tuner car for the money, it could be argued. a cobalt with 10k mods will destroy any stock evo x at the same price, yes. if you're talking about the cobalt not being the best tuner car for the money...of course it is! think of another car that can overall outperform the cobalt for under 30k. the evo x starts at 33 and isn't THAT much faster than the cobalt. there is no other car in its class that can match what the cobalt offers for the price. There are many options to choose from in the 30-40k range, but the evo and sti are pretty much the staple for modding in that price range.
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Projekt
i, hoesntly dont even know why the **** we are arguing.

I like the evo's you apparently hate cobalts?

i disagree that its not the best tuner car for the moeny you agree that it is?

is that what we can sum up from this thread?
I dont hate cobalts. Theyre a great car for the money, and a solid DD tuner for people on a budget. If the LSJ I bought wasnt such a lemon I probly would still have it and been running the full GM stage 3 kit with cams and 8k redline. Unfortunately I couldnt stand all the bullshit that started breaking and I decided to cut my losses and traded for an 01 cobra. The cobalt has a LOT of potential, however we have to be realistic. I cant stand people that think the cobalt is the end all ( fanboi ) of any car. Too many people on here get a big head because they pulled an otherwise stock car with their modded balt. Most of the war stories are a joke, and usually start with " YO MAN! I GOTZ A TUNE ONLY STOCK COBALT YO AND I PULLED A STOCK CAMARO SS YO!" Firstly, what ******* retarded fanboi newb says "tune only" and "stock" in the same ******* sentence? Secondly, the LS series is a superior engine PERIOD. I can guarantee a minor bolt on camaro ss would crush a "tune yo!" SS/TC. So seriously, 99.9999% of these roll racing ricer stories are a ******* joke.

Just like some other idiot who said he drove his dads 04 viper and said it didnt feel as fast as his "TUNE YO!" cobalt. Are you ******* kidding me? They run 11's and trap 123-125 STOCK.

So to answer your question, no I dont hate the cobalt I actually like it a lot. Honestly, before I bought my evo I was looking at some TC's. Then I realized the evo is better, so I went that route.


I guess we will have to agree to disagree on the best tuner part. I honestly cant think of any other sport compact that can do all the cool stuff an evo can do, and this is why I like it best. AWD is by far the most fun and versatile platform I have ever driven, and I have driven both FWD and RWD.

Originally Posted by SuperchargedSS
No. I am sure this will be EVO>css.net for 1BAD for many moons to come. Its never his fault though... There has to be someone here to tell us how fail our cars etc... "turbo size" "Fail wheel drive" etc.
Thats funny.... Last I checked I only called out the no nothing fanboi on here... Do you consider yourself in that category?

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