You make some good points. I cant stand the people that talk mad **** about what their cars can do....because in the end...who cares? I beat quite a few cars i probably shouldn't have when i had my cobalt. I was never cocky about it. I knew my car was pretty damn quick, especially considering most people just think the cobalt ss is a cavalier, but i never got big headed about it. The cobalts have proven over and over that with minor mods, they pull like crazy from a roll, and many a "better" car have been beaten by cobalts...but again, so what? i had ottp stage 1 and boltons on my cobalt, and my brother's modded LS2 gto wouldn't pull on me until about 75-80mph, but then it was over after that. Was i impressed that the goat couldn't pass my cobalt until 80? hell yes! but you also never saw me on the forums saying "OMGZ i DESTROYED a 6L GTO." he still raped me on top speed. even in my evo, i get a car length on him until about 80mph, and then he walks me. oh well, not a big deal.

I will also agree that awd is the most fun **** ever. i can't wait until it snows. awd donuts for the WIN. i too looked at some ss/tc's when i was getting a little bored with cobalt, but i opted for the evo instead. so far, no regrets whatsoever. it's nice having 4 doors and awd. i dont necessarily enjoy the 16mpg city/20mpg hway i get, but i didn't buy the evo for fuel economy.

No matter how fast your car is, somebody has one that's faster. it's good to take pride in your ride, make it look nice, make it fast, etc. but if everyone would just do what i do in a group of people and take the "my car sucks" attitude, nobody would get cocky and act stupid. I loved getting compliments on my cobalt, and i love getting them about my evo, but i've never looked down on someone or talked mad ****. I like my car, and that's all that counts. I don't have to prove anything to anyone.

I especially love the people that hate on my evo for it being an X. people either love it or hate it. this one guy told me my car was a piece of **** and i should have gotten a IX. I told him that the X is nicer, handles better, and is safer. I also told him that if he doesn't like it, don't buy one. He gave me more **** about it, and i told him to stick his rusty, tackily modded neon sxt up his ass, and keep his comments to himself. I love how people get so offended by things that aren't theirs. like it matters.

 

Me and a buddy that had an STI went to a snowcross event last year. Almost the most fun I've ever had in a car before





I busted the whole undertray out from under the front end. That sucked. Heres a pic of a buddy's X after the event.



He slid around lowered with 18x10 Advans and all season tires Sadly, this year, i will just be a spectator as i cant bring myself to put my new X through that hell.

 

No. But if you could please place me in the category of people who are getting sick of listening to your constant boasting, talking down of the cobalt, and hijacking, that would be much appreciated. Honestly though, I could really give two ***** what category someone like you puts me in on a chat forum.

I just find it comical when I read you calling out fanbois who think thier car is the be all end all, when in fact your the one that does that the most around here, usually at the expense of someone elses thread. But hey, it's not your fault though..

Now, back to your evo nuthugging thread....

 

lol. So butthurt. Its ok, they have ointment for that

 

What am I butthurt over?

 

I see this feud between 1Bad and superchargedss, and i want to choose sides, but i'm too lazy to read the other pages of this thread. maybe i will, i like taking sides.

X is faster around a road course than the IX. the mitsu pro test drivers beat their record IX times in the X on their own track. for a 300 pound heavier car, the X handles better and pulls .99 G. IX is a touch faster in the 1/4 stock to stock. with just boltons, the X makes more power untuned, mainly due to the mivec on the intake AND exhaust side.

same thing can be said about a civic hatch found in a junk yard...so what's your point? anything can be fast if you put enough money into it. 10k for a hatch shell, swap, and boost, and it will beat 99% of the cars in existence. the evo represents more money, more status i suppose, but both cars are great tuning platforms.

from this post, you just became as ignorant as all these evo/rsx owners. you slap a turbo kit and suspension on ANY car, and it will beat just about anything else. also, unless your suspension is hella built, an evo pulls more G's that a cobalt can. not that it's leaps and bounds ahead, but the numbers speak for themselves. any car can beat any other car if you have the money, the time, and you can drive.

 

I would hardly call a couple disagreeing posts a "Feud".
I just find it comical that he is everything he calls everyone else...a fanbois, a nutswinger and butthurt thats all...
Nothing against the evo, nice car. Too bad anyone can buy em.

 

I decided to go ahead and read the previous posts. at first, 1Bad was accused of being a douche before he actually did anything. I think 1Bad was unfairly attacked first, and then the fire just got fed from there. But i digress.

There is no "best tuner car for the money." all you can do is give your opinion, and back it up with facts. when i justify my decision to buy an evoX, i go by NEW CAR PRICES. yes, i know you can get a supra, cobra, corvette, GTO, older evo, older STI, etc used for under 25k....and many of those choices are "better" than a cobalt. being able to buy something awesome that's used is irrelevant. I go buy what is available brand new, sitting in a dealership right now. the cobalt is the fastest, best handling car for under 25k, and can be made crazy fast for cheap. this is fact. no other car touches its performance in the price range. but...a cobalt can't do cheaply what evo's can out of the box. there is crazy potential in the evo platform, and 19 years of research, design, experience, and aftermarket support in them. the evo is the "honda civic" of $30k+ 4 cylinder tuner cars, simply because of its age.

I also absolutely loved my cobalt, and thought about upgrading to an ss/tc. I opted not to because where i live, awd would really come in handy in winter and such. i just couldn't justify putting up the money for something that was essentially the same as what i had already had for the past 2.5 years. I was looking for something different. I decided that the next car i got was going to be a 4 cylinder, manual, and awd. my choices at that point were very slim, mainly due to the awd. i refuse to drive a hatch, so the new sti was out of the question as well. i was left with the evoX as my only choice, and i couldn't be happier. no, it's not a PERFECT vehicle, but it's pretty sweet. my evo rattles more than my cobalt did, it doesn't have auto dimming rearview mirror, or auto headlights. but my cobalt didn't have HID projectors, or awd. i also get 12mpg less on the highway with my evo. there is no PERFECT car, you just have to decide what you want, make a decision based on what you want, and go from there. I dont hate on any car, regardless of how much i may dislike it. i really do miss my cobalt, as it was a hell of a lot of car for 22k, but the evo is something completely different, and i love every second of it.

There's a difference between conflicting opinions, and people attacking eachother in posts. it's stupid. he thinks evos are better, so he bought one...other people think cobalts are the best car in the world, whatever. a lot of people dont like the new evox, but i love mine. if everyone liked the same thing, we would all be driving corollas, that's why there are so many choices, colors, styles, motors, brands, etc. I wouldn't necessarily agree with 1BAD that the evo is the best tuner platform ever, because it depends on what you consider important in a car. I will say however, that brand new, i think the evo X is the best car you can buy in that price range, just like the cobalt is the best performance choice in the sub 25k range.

you're right, anyone can buy an evo. i'm nobody special and i have one. it also fits what i was looking for in a car. anybody can buy a turbo swap, or get 500hp out of any car, whether it's an evo, cobalt, sti, camry, whatever. i haven't had a cobalt in 6 months, and i still find myself on css.net quite a bit, and i go to all the CED regional meets...because i love the community. I dont show up at cobalt meets with my evo and talk about how everyone else's **** is weak...who cares. i just enjoy the car scene in general.

 

Poor 1BAD, I am sure he is offline crying in his evo right now.... I don't think you understand what I am saying here. I am not comparing a cobalt to the evo or anything like that.

 

Oh i'm not saying 1Bad is innocent, but the name calling and flaming escalated too quickly over nothing, regardless of whose fault it is. Having been busy being a douchebag evo owner myself, I missed the other threads that 1Bad jacked. my apologies. i guess it makes sense that this thread has just been a continuation of fires that were started in other threads.

 

/\ Now you're getting it
Some people can bend over, take back handed comments and listen to conceeded people butt into conversations all day. I am not one of those people and I make no apologies. I am very much the opposite of that. Its like me hanging out on the Tc forums, tellin' em what time it is yo with my new ride... I would feel like such a loser, regardless of weather or not I had owned one in the past.

 

both cars are so ghey. there not ls1's.

/ thread

 

I agree.

 

ROFL

Im not any of those as I know what other cars can do. Im also not going to sugar coat the facts for any ignorant idiots on here. If you want to follow the idiots, by all means go for it.

I point out the harsh facts on cars, regardless of platform. Too many ss/tc owners think theyre gods gift on here. Hell, even the LSJ owners get sick of the TC bullshit. I guess the truth hurts their fragile ego's a bit much.

 

I hate to break it to ya, but there is more to do on a car forum than just talk about cars.

 

Yeah, whataver. Who are all these ignorant idiots specifically? Something tells me ignorance in your mind means someone liking their cobalt better than your evo.

 

psssh! LS2 is god's gift to V8's. you nuthugger fanboi.

When the TC's first came out, even when i still had my LSJ...i remember feeling this growing LNF elitest attitude myself...so i know what you're saying. They're awesome cars, we get it.

 

 

god damn, do u not read the threads?

The ******* lambrogini thread, the C6 thread, and the retarded comments like "my uncles 04 viper seemed slowe than "MAH TUNED YO!" cobalt"?

You have got to be ******* kidding me.

 

And you are act the same way! Thats whats so funny.
You make it sound like this is the only forum out there that fosters nutswingers...
Does it really suprise you that some kid is going to buy a 260hp well handling car, and not be super impressed with it? Really....

 

How so? Assclown SS/TC fanbois say XYZ car is slow or garbage. I point out that theyre idiots and show how XYZ car can actually be quicker, and has more potential.

They then proceed to bitch and say "infiniboost YOOOOO!" and I tell them theyre ******* retards.

 

/\ You lost me somewhere between XYZ and YOOOO...

 

naawwwwwzzzzzzzzz yoooooo!!!!!!!!

 

What exactly are you referring to here? Gimmie an example or name some people. You cant be this vague and be taken seriously.
Congrats, you just confessed to being css.net's offical magazine racer

 

O god, u name it. Just look at some of these threads. GTO, STI, Corvettes, Cobras, Evos, Vipers, etc.

Theyre all slow or dont feel as quick as the mighty cobalt.

I will find u threads. You will shake ur head.