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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 01:47 PM
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To the best of my knowledge not EVERY modification will cause a warranty to be voided... for instance, headers should not void a warranty. What they will do is prolly not warranty any failures that can be associated to the installation of the headers.

From what I understand, if the ECM has been modified, then the warranty can be voided.
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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 02:42 PM
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It has to be proven beyond resonable doubt that the aftermarket part casued the failure as stated in federal law, I did my research on this before I did any work on my car, also vinces tunes don't trip our computer so if your worried about any issues with it have the dealer you purchased from put you back to stock before you take it in for any warrenty work done it or flash it back to stock if you have the program and cable if your worried about them testing the car, that's I went with vince and his tune and decided to sell them.

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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 04:32 PM
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Q & A with Bill Duncan GMPP

"Q. As some have been in search for.. is the "learn down" feature really "completely" removed? Or, has the levels been moved higher to allow for an increase in hp/tq? Some are finding that after the GMPP Stage I kit and have added other aftermarket bolt-ons that the increases in power are not entirely there. Looking forward to Stage II. I am in hope for a Stage III. Which would be a fullout race stage and would probably not covered under warrenty. SS/SC's have the option, what about the LNF SS/TC?

A. The learn-down feature is totally turned off in the stage 1 tune. However, the turbo overspeed safeties are still turned on. This is calculating what the turbine speed and will not allow the turbo to exceed the manufacturers declared maximum turbine speed. The tune will do “whatever it take” to ensure the turbos safety.
Also, on another note, it has been my experience that if you purchased multiple bolt-ons each claiming HP gains, the total hp gain never adds up to the sum of all the claimed hp gains by the various component manufacturers."


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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 04:35 PM
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Anyone have a before and after pic of the MAP sensor showing the amount of material to be removed where it touches the pipe?
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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by r1owner
Anyone have a before and after pic of the MAP sensor showing the amount of material to be removed where it touches the pipe?
I don't have any pics, but it's very little material. I just removed it with my pocket knife. Basically, you're just removing it so that it doesn't hit the stock coldside pipe boss. In the pic on the right, you can see it sitting on top of the boss and it making the sensor not sit flush on the pipe. If you have an aftermarket coldside pipe, you don't have to remove anything.

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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 06:14 PM
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From GMTunerSource

"Q. As some have been in search for.. is the "learn down" feature really "completely" removed? Or, has the levels been moved higher to allow for an increase in hp/tq? Some are finding that after the GMPP Stage I kit and have added other aftermarket bolt-ons that the increases in power are not entirely there. Looking forward to Stage II. I am in hope for a Stage III. Which would be a fullout race stage and would probably not covered under warrenty. SS/SC's have the option, what about the LNF SS/TC?

A. The learn-down feature is totally turned off in the stage 1 tune. However, the turbo overspeed safeties are still turned on. This is calculating what the turbine speed and will not allow the turbo to exceed the manufacturers declared maximum turbine speed. The tune will do “whatever it take” to ensure the turbos safety.


Also, on another note, it has been my experience that if you purchased multiple bolt-ons each claiming HP gains, the total hp gain never adds up to the sum of all the claimed hp gains by the various component manufacturers."

Q & A with Bill Duncan GMPP
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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by r1owner
To the best of my knowledge not EVERY modification will cause a warranty to be voided... for instance, headers should not void a warranty. What they will do is prolly not warranty any failures that can be associated to the installation of the headers.

From what I understand, if the ECM has been modified, then the warranty can be voided.
They never can "void" a warranty. All they can do it flag your car with the modifications they found. It will be up to the dealers what they want to or do not want to warranty with the flag. Obviously, if you have an ECM tune, they can blame just about anything on that. A/C compressor went bad? That's because you had a tune and over-revved the A/C compressor.
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by r1owner
Anyone have a before and after pic of the MAP sensor showing the amount of material to be removed where it touches the pipe?
the kit spells this out.

the one that caught me off guard was needing to enlarge the hole for the 2nd MAP ~ I was in a crunch for time too!
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by soundjunky
the kit spells this out.

the one that caught me off guard was needing to enlarge the hole for the 2nd MAP ~ I was in a crunch for time too!
Wait.... what? I didn't see anything in the instructions about that...
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 05:11 PM
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Parts installed... Taking to the dealer in the morning.
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 06:08 PM
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Parts installed... Taking to the dealer in the morning.
pretty easy to install man?? i cant wait to order mine here in a couple days. let me know how it goes man!
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 06:12 PM
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Yes, super easy to install.

I may have ground a little too much on the sensor though... Not sure, I guess we'll see how it goes after the tune. I got to where I could see a real small piece of metal. I think I took it too far.

I installed it all from the top, but I think the sensor in the cold pipe would be easier to get to if the car was jacked up.

Here is a pic of the sensor...

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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 07:45 PM
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so it comes with 2 sensors,right? one that goes on the intake manifold and 1 that goes into the air intake,right?
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 07:57 PM
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Yes two sensors
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 08:04 PM
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sweet. seems pretty simple to install. everything is plug and play if you go with the CED kit.
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 08:13 PM
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Yep, those connectors are worth their weight in gold.
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 08:53 PM
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^^this

GM should have done that from the get-go
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 11:39 PM
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Yep, those connectors are worth their weight in gold.
good,im ordering it tomorrow!
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^^this

GM should have done that from the get-go
lol ive read on a bunch of GMS1 threads that GM shoulda done that
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 10:13 AM
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At the shop now. Not sure they've ever done one there. Mentioned something about having to get an email from GM for the tune..

I told them I think it's all based on the paperwork that CED sent me. It had a part # for the tune. I'll keep you guys updated.

Just called and said it's done. I'll prolly go get it at lunch.
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 11:19 AM
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^^^ it'll be like a different car!

Congrats!
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 05:20 PM
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At the shop now. Not sure they've ever done one there. Mentioned something about having to get an email from GM for the tune..

I told them I think it's all based on the paperwork that CED sent me. It had a part # for the tune. I'll keep you guys updated.

Just called and said it's done. I'll prolly go get it at lunch.
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 07:26 PM
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Um... yeah....



RUN don't walk to your dealer to get this tune! Absolutely LOVE it! Dealer charged me 95 bucks to get it setup.

2nd gear is pretty much useless with the OEM tires on a cold/cool day.
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 07:28 PM
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Um... yeah....



RUN don't walk to your dealer to get this tune! Absolutely LOVE it! Dealer charged me 95 bucks to get it setup.

2nd gear is pretty much useless with the OEM tires on a cold/cool day.
lol that is awesome man! do you have any bolt ons?
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 07:37 PM
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Ordered!
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 07:47 PM
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Ordered!
you will not be disappointed ~ congrats!
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