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Old Feb 1, 2009 | 01:03 PM
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I think you should have powerpackages up on your site. Or a Click here for These parts for this amount...type of thing. Are you making you DP catless to look like it has a cat in it? Basically fooling GM in thnking you have a catted DP?
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Old Feb 1, 2009 | 02:36 PM
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The Site will soon have a lot new features!
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Old Feb 2, 2009 | 12:00 AM
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Are you making you DP catless to look like it has a cat in it? Basically fooling GM in thnking you have a catted DP?
Absolutely not. This is highly illegal and carries with it up to a $10,000.00 fine and possible jail time. The "cat-less down-pipe" will be made for off road use only and to never be operated on a vehicle on any public road, highway or street.

As for power packages, they are coming. I want finished, production, parts first before setting them up on the website.

Thanks for your interest in our products.
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Old Feb 2, 2009 | 12:13 AM
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Absolutely not. This is highly illegal and carries with it up to a $10,000.00 fine and possible jail time. The "cat-less down-pipe" will be made for off road use only and to never be operated on a vehicle on any public road, highway or street.

As for power packages, they are coming. I want finished, production, parts first before setting them up on the website.

Thanks for your interest in our products.
Not to get on your bad side but are you going to report your customers that post your products on youtube driving on the streets "off Road" products? Just a question
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Old Feb 2, 2009 | 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by El_diablos_SS/TC
Not to get on your bad side but are you going to report your customers that post your products on youtube driving on the streets "off Road" products? Just a question
What the hell type of question is that? Is there seriously a company that did that?
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Old Feb 2, 2009 | 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by El_diablos_SS/TC
Not to get on your bad side but are you going to report your customers that post your products on youtube driving on the streets "off Road" products? Just a question
Absolutely not. What you and other customers choose to do with your cars is none of our business. But when asked a direct question I am compelled to give a direct answer.

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Old Feb 7, 2009 | 02:22 AM
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Final fitting of our 3" down-pipe in the morning.

We will be offering a choice between 304 stainless steel and aluminized steel.
Options available will be hi-flow converter or straight pipe (off-road) with choice of cut-out, with or without the converter. I'll try to get pictures up tomorrow evening.

Projected prices:
catted 304 stainless down-pipe - $375.00
non-catted 304 stainless down-pipe - $275.00
cut-out option for either with a stainless block-off plate - $100.00
optional electric cut-out will also be available.

Stay tuned everyone.
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Old Feb 7, 2009 | 10:31 AM
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Yes.
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Old Feb 7, 2009 | 11:53 AM
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E--cutout!!!! Yesss
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Old Feb 7, 2009 | 03:57 PM
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TC Down-pipe: "Ultimately" designed by the members

I'll post this info in a new thread as this thread is extrememly long.

As many of you know, we listen to everything the community has to say. We talk to the members and take any and all feedback, ideas, preferences, etc very seriously. We originally designed out down-pipe well over a month ago, flow bench tested it, dyno tested it, tuned for it and currently have road testing in progress.

There have been many demands, wishes, etc from this community about what YOU, the members, and owners of these cars actually want and hope to pay for a custom down-pipe. We have looked at all the other designs by all other manufacturers and did what we always do, designed the absolute best product, for YOUR cars, in the industry.

Some of you have asked for a down-pipe with both hi-flow metal matrix cat converter AND a cut-out, but you have been told it isn't possible.

Many of you have asked why a down-pipe would need to cost over $450.00, but have not been answered.

Many of you have asked for a simpler design to keep the cost and complexity down, but have been told you only have certain choices.

So, with YOUR feed-back, comments, wishes and demands, our TC Down-pipe was "Ultimately" designed by YOU, the members.

We are very happy to offer the most cost effective, simplest design and absolute best down-pipe available anywhere. AND, we offer choices to custom order it your way. We will build it pretty much just the way YOU want it.

Here are a few pictures of the R&D (prototype) down-pipe. Please keep in mind this is NOT a production pipe. The production pipe will use "wrinkle free, continuous mandrel bends" without excessive welds, the flex coupler will be an "interlock" style triple layer flex coupler, as opposed to other companies offering a cheaper and less expensive triple layer coupler WITHOUT the interlock feature. The production down-pipe will be available in 304 stainless steel and fully TIG welded. The O2 sensor will reside in an industry standard O2 chamber which has been in use for many years by many other manufacturers. While installing it at the correct angle to protect the sensor from water damage, it's simple and it works to prevent trouble codes.

We are also happy to provide the ONLY cut-out properly engineered to significantly reduce back pressure. Other manufacturers offer cut-outs they simply stuck on the side of the down-pipe at a 90 degree angle. When open the exhaust flow will still be moving rearwards as it passes over the outlet. With our cut-out, it is positioned at an angle to allow the exhaust to follow the path of least resistence as it is directed out of the cut-out. Air flows very similar to water, under high velocity and pressure, it will NOT turn. Especially at 90 degrees. It must be directed to a different path. Our design does just that. And members will have the choice between 2 1/2" as well as 3".

As always your comments are welcome. We will be making some final adjustments to set-up for production and we should be able to have the first 304 stainless down-pipe with hi-flow metal matrix cat converter assembled and finished some time next week.

Thanks everyone. Enjoy your weekend.






A special thanks to Daniel and Kara for their continued cooperation in the development of Cobalt TC products.

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Old Feb 7, 2009 | 04:58 PM
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nice!! Can't wait to see the finished product!
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Old Feb 7, 2009 | 07:11 PM
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VERY nice design!
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Old Feb 7, 2009 | 10:00 PM
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Okay newb question I know, but why is there just an opening in the pipe chilling there? (does that have something to do with the cutout? I have no idea what a cutout does/is by the way)
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Old Feb 7, 2009 | 10:06 PM
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the opening is for the cutout. It allows you to bypass the cat and muffler and run a straight pipe. It reduces alot of the restriction for faster spooling of the turbo and more power if you are tuned.
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 02:37 AM
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I just have a few questions and a little input. If you are running a wide band o2 you would want that before the cut out right or you would have no reading? The o2 bung you have in the pics is for a stock car right, and we can get a regular bung if we want and un-catted pipe?

What I would want is the cheapest down pipe I can get with the bung up high before the cut out in the pic. I am not sure I would order an electronic with the original purchase or wait and add it at a later date. I believe since I live in a mild climate I don't need stainless and any other type of fancy metals. I just want a cheap performance pipe, ugly does not bother me. hope this helps.
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 06:03 PM
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I just have a few questions and a little input. If you are running a wide band o2 you would want that before the cut out right or you would have no reading? The o2 bung you have in the pics is for a stock car right, and we can get a regular bung if we want and un-catted pipe?

What I would want is the cheapest down pipe I can get with the bung up high before the cut out in the pic. I am not sure I would order an electronic with the original purchase or wait and add it at a later date. I believe since I live in a mild climate I don't need stainless and any other type of fancy metals. I just want a cheap performance pipe, ugly does not bother me. hope this helps.
You have to remember your car already has a wideband 02 sensor up at the turbo, the 02 sensor shown on the downpipe is the 02 sensor that monitors the cat
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Mazdaboi318
nice!! Can't wait to see the finished product!
Should be later this week.

Originally Posted by marcusicp
VERY nice design!
Thanks. Glad you like it.

Originally Posted by orbalt08
the opening is for the cutout. It allows you to bypass the cat and muffler and run a straight pipe. It reduces alot of the restriction for faster spooling of the turbo and more power if you are tuned.
Exactly. Thanks for stepping in here and posting an answer.

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Okay newb question I know, but why is there just an opening in the pipe chilling there? (does that have something to do with the cutout? I have no idea what a cutout does/is by the way)
Answered above. But, even without the use of an electric cut-out, this option is available. We will provide a block-off plate. Just un-cap it at the trap.

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I just have a few questions and a little input. If you are running a wide band o2 you would want that before the cut out right or you would have no reading? The o2 bung you have in the pics is for a stock car right, and we can get a regular bung if we want and un-catted pipe?

What I would want is the cheapest down pipe I can get with the bung up high before the cut out in the pic. I am not sure I would order an electronic with the original purchase or wait and add it at a later date. I believe since I live in a mild climate I don't need stainless and any other type of fancy metals. I just want a cheap performance pipe, ugly does not bother me. hope this helps.
We can pretty much build your down-pipe any way you like, O2 chamber or just an O2 bung, not a problem. As for the cut-out; we will include a cap. When you add the electric later, just remove the cap. As for the less expensive aluminized steel, it still wont be ugly with us doing the fabrication and finish work.

Thanks for all of your comments.
Look for our sale in the vendors section later this week.
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 05:03 PM
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intake intake intake! i want a kold air intake !!! lol any word how much longer ??prices?? im lookin to buy one this week or next yall or hahnz but im tryuin to hold 4 u guyz but i need a cai lol
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 11:45 AM
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I feel your pain lol...we all do. ?but be patient and save you some money!
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by XxCOBALT_TURBOxX
intake intake intake! i want a kold air intake !!! lol any word how much longer ??prices?? im lookin to buy one this week or next yall or hahnz but im tryuin to hold 4 u guyz but i need a cai lol
We have been busy with filling orders and finalizing the new down-pipe. I will be speaking with a mechanist this week about having MAF flanges made for the intake. It's coming.

Also, thanks very much for choosing to wait for us instead of ordering from the other guy. You just earned yourself a discount. That goes for anyone else choosing us over the other guy.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ClearImageAuto Dan
Thanks guys. This is my livelihood so I do what I can to stay on top of questions, requests, etc. We are a very small shop and do everything ourselves. We don't have middle men slinging our products so we can keep our prices down.

Depending on the final price of the factory flanges, we should easily be able to sell the cat-less down-pipe in aluminized steel for around $150.00 plus shipping. 304 stainless would be roughly $100.00 more due to the cost of the flanges.

If you are interested in ordering, let me know. I am going to go ahead and bend up some 3" aluminized tubing tonight. The only delay for shipping will be having the flanges cut. Probably a week out.

Let meknow.
Thanks again.

What happened to the "cat-less down-pipe in aluminized steel for around $150.00 plus shipping"?
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 12:20 AM
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As I stated, we were waiting for the final price of the factory flanges. They came in quite a bit more than expected. Also, we decided to use a triple layer "Interlock style" flex section instead of the cheaper flex section the other companies are using. The interlock feature is specifically offered for turbo charged applications and cost substanially more.

Even at our current prices no other manufacturer can touch us; not in price, customer service or materials and certainly not in quality. We will be posting a sale as soon as I can get pictures of the production parts up. I'm having some computer issues right now. Looks like Monday.

Thanks again.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ClearImageAuto Dan
We have been busy with filling orders and finalizing the new down-pipe. I will be speaking with a mechanist this week about having MAF flanges made for the intake. It's coming.

Also, thanks very much for choosing to wait for us instead of ordering from the other guy. You just earned yourself a discount. That goes for anyone else choosing us over the other guy.
HA AWESOME ! THANXZ A LOT YALL GUYS ROCK KEEP UP THA GUD WORK!
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 09:15 PM
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I thought you would like that.

UPDATE:
flex couplers arrived today.
MAF flange will be ready Tuesday for final testing next week on our intakes.
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