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Old Sep 12, 2013 | 10:37 PM
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Like I said before, should've just stuck with something that worked. Haha.
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Old Sep 13, 2013 | 12:36 AM
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Like I said before, should've just stuck with something that worked. Haha.
We will see what happens. I can't seem to find any m3's or 335 around me. I'm gonna try some other things. If non of that works. I'm ditching this turbo, it's not working for me. I'm going to go with a GTX35 or I guess a 6262 still.

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Old Sep 18, 2013 | 11:13 PM
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Couldn't your "God" of tuner james figure all this **** out for you before leaving? Notice sarcasm...
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Old Sep 18, 2013 | 11:53 PM
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Couldn't your "God" of tuner james figure all this **** out for you before leaving? Notice sarcasm...
There wasn't enough time and ran into too many problems. If it's not fixed in these two weeks it's going to be sold. Hello e46 m3, or 335i.
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Old Sep 19, 2013 | 01:19 AM
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I just read this whole thread and man its like a book. I don't even know if I wanna install my zfr I'm nervous.but I'm rooting for you I rlly am
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Old Sep 19, 2013 | 10:15 AM
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Its not that bad. Hardest part is dealing with seized studs on the o2 housing. Be prepared to re stud lol
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Old Sep 19, 2013 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by joshsal123
I just read this whole thread and man its like a book. I don't even know if I wanna install my zfr I'm nervous.but I'm rooting for you I rlly am
The zfr is honestly a cake walk compared to this 25g setup. It's still some work to install of course, and unfortunately issues can/may arise, but it's nothing at all like doing Fastgti69's or ATLsilverSS's setup.
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Old Sep 19, 2013 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 09CobaltSS1

The zfr is honestly a cake walk compared to this 25g setup. It's still some work to install of course, and unfortunately issues can/may arise, but it's nothing at all like doing Fastgti69's or ATLsilverSS's setup.
Agreed. It was my first ever turbo swap and it was so simple. Tuning was the worst part. Unfortunately it wasn't on my end, but bad tuning at first.

Everything about the 25g turbo swaps have been nothing but trouble. Nickateens is the only one I know that's actually running and numbers weren't much over stock.

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Old Sep 19, 2013 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Wert842
Agreed. It was my first ever turbo swap and it was so simple. Tuning was the worst part. Unfortunately it wasn't on my end, but bad tuning at first.

Everything about the 25g turbo swaps have been nothing but trouble. Nickateens is the only one I know that's actually running and numbers weren't much over stock.

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This is a very misleading statement. First there are only 3 25g lnf's. nicksteen, fastgti69, and mine, richard hall had a similar setup to nicksteen and fastgti. They all use an adapter to mate to the stock turbo manifold and use internal wastegated turbos, and mate to the stock o2 housing and stock/or aftermarket downpipe. Mine is different. I am running a zzp mani with a t3 exhaust housing, tial wastegate, and full 3" downpipe off the turbo vband. We ran into a couple snags during install but nothing major. I just havent had the time to get it tuned but i intend on beginning tuning within the next few days. Mine is far from "nothing but trouble"
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Old Sep 19, 2013 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by joshsal123
I just read this whole thread and man its like a book. I don't even know if I wanna install my zfr I'm nervous.but I'm rooting for you I rlly am
Yea haha, it's literally a 7 month documentary.. Thanks man. The ZFR is easy peasy, you won't regret it. I don't regret mine and it blew LOL.

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Its not that bad. Hardest part is dealing with seized studs on the o2 housing. Be prepared to re stud lol
x2 studs are like glued in.

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The zfr is honestly a cake walk compared to this 25g setup. It's still some work to install of course, and unfortunately issues can/may arise, but it's nothing at all like doing Fastgti69's or ATLsilverSS's setup.
BOV, wastegates maf relocate. It's all bullshit piping that never needs to be done. That's were all my problems are at. i had a gap between my BOV and C clip in the flange. I guess it never sat in right. I can't get it out either. I got a new BOV and flange. I'm going to have to cut this one off and figure how to take it out. That c clip is stuck in there. It broke my pliers..

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Agreed. It was my first ever turbo swap and it was so simple. Tuning was the worst part. Unfortunately it wasn't on my end, but bad tuning at first.

Everything about the 25g turbo swaps have been nothing but trouble. Nickateens is the only one I know that's actually running and numbers weren't much over stock.

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All the dynos from evo forums are 500+ which is crazy. I need that feeling before I get rid of this car. I spent so much money. damnit so ******* much. That money I spent in these past 2 months. 6k... I could have done a turbo kit on a 335 or even an m3. Ahhh, so mad.
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Old Sep 19, 2013 | 01:10 PM
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Yea you could have bought the turbo kit for an m3 or 335 but then when something goes wrong you would be looking at ALOT higher repair bill. My buddy has an 06 M3 and did a HPF turbo kit, way more then 6k when he was done with it
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Old Sep 19, 2013 | 01:15 PM
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Why not go get a Sky or Solstice swap the built LNF and have a great car. Seems like a win win to me.
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Old Sep 19, 2013 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by kdub1492
Yea you could have bought the turbo kit for an m3 or 335 but then when something goes wrong you would be looking at ALOT higher repair bill. My buddy has an 06 M3 and did a HPF turbo kit, way more then 6k when he was done with it
True, but the point is that there are 3 shops out here than I know of that work on those cars. Like when I mean work on them, I mean build SC kits turbo kits etc build motors. Gintani, RMS, BMS those 3 shops are within 10 miles from me. All of which have more than enough knowledge to get my car working if I ran into a problem. The thing is I would have one of them do my turbo kit etc. It will be done correctly. BTW, there isn't any more HPF. They went bankrupt like 8 months ago.. The only turbo kit for the m3 is Maximum psi, which is what I'm looking at. Or if I get a 335, I'm looking at a single turbo 6466 on that.

Not like my SS which nobody knows about. I had to pay 10k after my ZFR blew to try to get this work. All I have now is a built motor with all supporting mods, but nothing works... So in the end I'd rather pay more and have something work than keep paying and paying and making myself look like a douche. While it's still been doing the same **** for the past 5 months. It's a shitty platform that I got into, and it seems like only the mid states are savvy about it. Nobody here in LA will look at my Cobalt. I say cobalt they laugh.. I need an EVO a bimmer or soemthing of that status out here. Chevy and Los angeles just doesn't go together.

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Why not go get a Sky or Solstice swap the built LNF and have a great car. Seems like a win win to me.
Point is, its not my Cobalt. I love it. It's the problems with the turbo kit or something I can't figure out and nobody seems to know how to fix it. So I'm just gonna try a couple more things to this car. Fix w/e I can, detail the bitch to make her pretty. Then sell it if it doesn't work. I'm over the car, and get pissed everytime I go outside and look at it. 20k I've put into this car in the past 2 years. I hate thinking about that number. Twenty thousand dollars. That is not including the 19k I paid for the car itself...
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Old Sep 19, 2013 | 02:23 PM
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Turbos, they are so fun...
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Old Sep 19, 2013 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ATLsilverSS

This is a very misleading statement. First there are only 3 25g lnf's. nicksteen, fastgti69, and mine, richard hall had a similar setup to nicksteen and fastgti. They all use an adapter to mate to the stock turbo manifold and use internal wastegated turbos, and mate to the stock o2 housing and stock/or aftermarket downpipe. Mine is different. I am running a zzp mani with a t3 exhaust housing, tial wastegate, and full 3" downpipe off the turbo vband. We ran into a couple snags during install but nothing major. I just havent had the time to get it tuned but i intend on beginning tuning within the next few days. Mine is far from "nothing but trouble"
How's it misleading? I knew there was 3 cause you, fast, and nick are the only ones that post about, but thanks for pointing it to me. If it could be used with adapter then it could. No big deal. If their tuner said it would be fine, it should be fine. If they are still having problems and something doesn't seem right, its not. If yours is different, then its different. No biggie.

Not bashing but I do think tuning is a key part in the turbo. Nickateens set up isn't crazy like it should be, fast is having problems constantly, and yours isn't tuned(shocker). I would love to see hard and good evidence that its completely worth. From the 3 who do have the 25g set up which are from the same tuner, which I did have when I had horrible problems with my car. I switched tuners and my car definitely thanked me and I really haven't had any problems other than shattering my trans...

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Old Sep 19, 2013 | 03:39 PM
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Where I would go now, is ditch the internal gate, get an EWG, and you have an MBC. Then make sure no limiters are fighting you, and you've just eliminated a bunch of variables.
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Old Sep 19, 2013 | 03:49 PM
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I was debating a tial 38mm wg from zzp and have already decided on their mbc. I wasn't sure if the ewg would work with my turbo or not. I'm still learning a lot.
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Old Sep 19, 2013 | 04:12 PM
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EWG will work with any turbo. Buy or make a block off for your IWG to hold it closed or weld it shut. The complication I see is if you guys are running stock manifolds. Thats where it gets tough.
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Old Sep 19, 2013 | 04:15 PM
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Is it really that big if a difference between internal and external
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Old Sep 19, 2013 | 04:19 PM
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Or I guess more importantly. What is such a big difference between the two?
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Old Sep 19, 2013 | 04:49 PM
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I'm just trying to help him troubleshoot here. And I just like the simplicity of an EWG. The gains are minimal until you get up into the big power levels.
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Old Sep 19, 2013 | 04:53 PM
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Are there some noticeable benefits to ewg vs iwg
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Old Sep 19, 2013 | 04:53 PM
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As I've stated before. If this turbo is coming out, It's not going back in. I'd go with the external gated exhaust mani from zzp, get a EWG with a 6262. Line all the **** up as I already have it. Then retune.


Though my problem might be my BOV. I stated above I just looked at it like 2 days ago. There is a gap from the BOV and c clip to the flange. I never saw it before I just guess it never sat in perfectly even though it is in the flange. I cant take out the BOV either. The C clip is like stuck. It broke my c clip pliers... LOL. If that BOV fixes the problem. I'll be one happy camper.
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Old Sep 19, 2013 | 05:00 PM
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You never boost leak tested the system?! You could have found that from the get go. Whenever we swap setups we don't even start the car until we know everything is sealed up.
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Originally Posted by kdub1492
Turbos, they are so fun...
AMEN

Lol and to think I used to be hardcore TVS...
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