T-Man

iTrader: (3)

Well, I've decided. F all of this speculation. I'm buying two of them today :-)

ECaulk

iTrader: (6)

I wonder if he's comparing GMS1 to stock straight up, changing your wg settings and DALs I would expect to effect the boost it holds more than an unknown nanny table. Its been awhile since i've looked at the GMS1 vs stock to see if the DALs are ramped in different or if the wg setting is completely different

Terminator2

I figured out why he has that issue and it is so easy to fix it is not even funny.

Look at wg prop max between GMS1 files and stock files and look at the last column stock one is 17.4 psi and the GMS1 is 23.2 psi. If you leave that column 23.2 psi then even if you put in 100% in prop max and 100% in wg duty cycle correction it will not hit 100% wg duty cycle. Why? because desired boost is still limited to 22.5 psi maximum not 23.2 psi! If you change 23.2 to 22.5 or lower in that column the issue is solved. I figured that out about 5 years ago on my car.

Oh yeah and using the stock file optimum engine torque settings in place of the GMS1 settings helps this as well believe it or not.

ECaulk

iTrader: (6)

Thats odd that changing the wg prop max down to 22.5 the issue disappears.

I havent touched the OT table for high load, I've done some tweeking to smooth my idle out.

KMO43

Why are you getting 2?

Terminator2

It worked for my car. Even before I tweaked my wg rod a little I could hold 22.5 past 6000. Once tweaked I could hold 22.5 until around 6400 almost 6500.

KMO43

Wow that's crazy I wish I lived at sea level

Terminator2

Yeah that helps a ton.

blueLNFftw

iTrader: (16)

I am going to tighten my rod.
Any tips for how much to do it?

Terminator2

4-5 turns from factory preset position works well and no surge issues on mine ever.

blueLNFftw

iTrader: (16)

Okay. I probably only was able to do like 1/2 a turn on mine when you told me to check it. It was tight so I didnt mess with it much.

I need to pick up a ratcheting combination wrench; that would make it cake to adjust.

KMO43

I used a 1/4 in ratchet to loosen the back nut then adjusted by hand the couple turns and tightened the back nut up worked fine

Terminator2

I used a ratchet wrench but a slim 1/4 ratchet would work.

T-Man

iTrader: (3)

I didn't say anything about it kicking anything out of boost. It was simply an observation I noted years ago with my previous RY Sedan. At the time, I didn't have an understanding of the PID tables the way I do now and I believe it was the biggest culprit.


DAL is slightly different, no changes to WG. The major changes for responsiveness came from the Optimum spark changes and the PID tables, from what's viewable.

Who said anything about me still having this issue? Why the need to be so condescending David? I'm not James here...

And no, regardless of how my X/Y axis columns were labeled, the car carried 100% WG when commanded.

One is for my car and the other is for my Dad's coupe. Quite the rivalry between the two of us for some time now, since my previous RY sedan and his 1G Eclipse

I can't speak to that because in my experiences, Prop Max simply works in conjunction with the Prop gain to ramp the signal (boost) in faster/slower depending on how you've setup everything (PID tables). Also, there is power to be gained by messing around with OT high load areas but there is a point of diminished returns vs stability (think on/off switch).

Terminator2

You are misunderstanding me.

T-Man

iTrader: (3)

I figured as much but it's the internet and why not have fun with it?

Terminator2

I am going to blame me coming of as a cocky ******* on the **** I am on not me

ECaulk

iTrader: (6)

Oh I know there power there, but I'm going to get my EGT installed, switch to e35, and rent a dyno (mustang, none of that unloaded crap) for a day before I go tweeking those tables, and then i'll be able to play around with the different tables and see results

SSlobalt

So..........whatcha on, Term?

ECaulk

iTrader: (6)

it was mentioned in the daily chat a few days ago

Terminator2

Not really relevant to this thread. Read my fitness thread.

SSlobalt

THeres a fitness section on here?

ECaulk

iTrader: (6)

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/loun.../index201.html

KMO43

So guys I have a couple things to update this thread first of all today I logged my car on 94 not 92 like before with the same tune other then I leaned it out back to normal because I was running rich on my original test because of the 92oct and today I held the 25psi all the way to the 6500 redline like before but flowed 37.95lbs/min on only 11* timing!! I know I still have room to turn up the boost and see what she'll really do but like I said before I'm waiting on my buddy to buy me a new intercooler and put my meth back on before I crank up the boost but for the meantime I raised my rev limiter to 7k so I'll post a log soon of the results for that.

Also I just got off the phone with Matt and he's got a bunch of new updates for the K04r and is getting ready to finally put my mod into production! He has some really good stuff going on I'm trying to get pics and I'll update this thread as soon as I have new info

T-Man

iTrader: (3)

Yep and my turbos will benefit from the updates :-)

Wouldn't do the "mod" for them though, due to time constraints